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54 minutes ago, Traveler said:

The epiphany is – that not only will children bring honor or shame to parents – the honor or shame is reciprocal.  That parents (family) will bring honor or shame to their children.

Interesting.  My wife's parents and some of her siblings were unhealthy threats that required distance and clear strong boundaries.  Like, involving the police, prison sentences, and excommunication sorts of boundaries.   We protected ourselves by moving to another state and cutting the whole lot of 'em from our lives while we raised our kids.  Once our kids became adults and were no longer in danger from these people and their sickness/evil, a little civil communication started happening.  It's been a 20 year journey finding our mortal place in the whole mercy/justice thing.  Learning how to forgive in the face of a clear danger and the absence of repentance.  

I wouldn't think all that was the greatest shame of all eternity, because the atonement is still there for those people.  They have ruined many of their opportunities here in the mortal realm, but I'm told that God still loves 'em and has a plan to have all that fixed on the other side of the veil.  It's possible for all parties involved to be able to both be in the presence of God at the same time, with nothing in the way.  Probable?  I don't have the tools to judge how probable.

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