jimuk

Hi guys and girls, just thought i would share this small piece of history of the church in the uk, it is not my work just copied it from somewhere else and thought it may be of interest to some. The number of Mormons in the UK has risen from 6,500 in the 1960s to over 190,000 today. Although the first Mormon Temple in Britain (At Newchapel in Surrey) was not built until 1958, the church has had a foothold in this country almost since it was founded by Joseph Smith in the USA. The third President of the Church, John Taylor, was an English convert. Beginnings The Mormons arrived in Britain at the very beginning of the reign of Queen Victoria. The first Mormon missionaries were sent to England in 1837, led by the Apostle Heber C Kimball. They preached in Preston in July, and baptised their first nine converts the same month in the river Ribble. The first convert to be baptised was George D Watt By the next May they had converted over 1000 people. By 1850, the Church had 30,747 members in England, and only 26,911 in the USA. By 1854 they had 50,000 members. Emigration The growth was not destined to continue in England, as the newly converted soon began to emigrate to the USA. The first batch of emigrants set out for the USA in 1840, and organised mass-migration followed. In 1853, for example, there were nearly 3,000 emigrants Preston Temple Preston remained strongly associated with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and in 1998 the second Mormon Temple in Britain was opened there, close to the town of Chorley and the M6 motorway.

Thank you Misshalfway for your last post in this thread, i have been sitting back doing a lot of reading on the forum since i started a thread that i am thoroughly ashamed of starting, (opening my mouth before listening to my heart). You and others on these forums can put a point across which makes me feel so good inside, i am not so good myself with words and sometimes when i am filled with the spirit i try to push my thoughts onto others, which i don't realise is wrong until it is to late and the harm is done. Thank you again to yourself and others in unknowingly teaching me the correct way.

Islander is that post for me, if so can you not see that i have been trying my best to resolve any contention, I have prayed and i was wrong, openly admitted. Why is there so much negativity towards me going on here, this is beginning to worry me now. I have prayed about it, and again i know i was wrong, hey i dont know what else i can do, you are all standing in judgement against me, i was wrong, wrong, wrong. Maybe my issues then are with this "forgiving church" maybe it is not so loving, charitable. forgiving. I cant see what else i can do. There is no love here. Been member for many years and never felt this way before. I feel like i am being driven out.

Snow, i have tried so hard to make my apologies, i have admitted i was wrong to make this thread. You have so much hate in your words i cant believe you yourself are saying them on a "LDS" forum. I have asked for your forgiveness that is all i can do, if you are unable to forgive then that is your prerogative.

Hi, first let me say how sorry i am for causing the bad feelings that have emerged in this thread, it was not my intention, and for this i ask for all your forgiveness. I have done what i should have done before even starting the thread, i have prayed to heavenly father about it, and through the holy ghost my heart filled with love and the intense feeling that i did not need to ask as i already knew, and that is that our father loves every one of us, and so long as we follow Jesus and not our desires all will be well for "ALL" of his children. Again i ask for your forgiveness, if this is possible, i promise to prey before opening my big mouth. I have learned something today, and that is how easy it is to cause contention to those i love.

please tell me what i have done, yes i have sinned and i am trying to correct myself and follow a straight path, i really did not know this would be such a sore subject for some people to deal with and for this i am truly sorry, i am also sorry for posting the words of my father in heaven, which i removed when i realised it was causing contention to some members in this forum. I removed took them away from here and it is i who may or may not be answerable for it, i removed them to STOP people getting angry about them, so again what have i done that is so very wrong.

Could a moderator please ask this guy what he is going on about, because he has lost me completely. Just because he has so many posts does not allow him to talk about me in such a bad way, i am shocked that no moderator has said nothing about him implying things about me in this way. Thank you

Snow i am deeply shocked at what seems to be sum kind of allegation pointed towards myself, from someone who has been around this forum for so long. I do not know what i have done, all i can remember doing was Quoting some words from the Bible, i am sorry for that, i even removed them because they appeared to be causing some upset.

completely uncalled for Snow, i am sorry you have such a nasty mind, i am also sorry that this is such a sore subject for you.

And your point is snow ?

Old time prophets, latter day prophets, god is an unchanging god.

"No one here is denying your claim that God has decreed unchaste homosexual acts a sin. The problem people have with your language is that you are so eager to declare homosexuality a sin that your language doesn't admit that same-gender attraction is not a sin. If you can make that adjustment, you'll find a great deal less hostility to your comments." My first post at start of this thread stated gods word on the subject nothing more, this seemed to upset people, so it was not anything to do with "my language" at all, i do not see why his word would cause this upset.

Yes you are correct, Justice, but sometimes people just need to hear it as it is, if it is the word of god then it really doesent need explaining what i had posted was straight and to the point, nothing to confuse, just his words, but some members are just not ready i guess. It doesent matter if we dont like what heavenly father says sometimes, if he has said it then that is good enough, we cant just accept the bits we like.

Sorry i have now removed the word of my father, as it is not meant to be argued over.

Ben my point is, when reading trough this forum, i tend to come across so many posts that pussy foot around with people instead of telling it like it is, everyone, no sorry not everyone, going round in circles trying to explain things in such a lovey dovey way instead of just telling it like it is. Another point is that i have had people emailing me asking what i think of gays, i think gays are also loved by my father in heaven, but i like most feel that they should not give way to their desires whilst being members of the church. What is your point. you obviously have a problem with what i have written Ben. I wish i could change the heading which is rather loud, but edit will not allow me to do this. Thanks

I have removed the word of god myself as my fathers word is far to strong, and there are those that would try to make light of it. But i will with the help from the holy ghost protect it from those that would make light of it, and look to turn it into an argument. Sorry to those that do believe in the truth and straight forward approach of those words.

I myself have no problem with others wearing a cross, if thats what floats their boat so be it, today it is mostly worn as just another piece of jewelry by some that do, and those that do not believe in Jesus Christ. Personally, i would not wear this as a symbol of my faith, if my son was tortured with a knife which then led to his death i would not need a knife hanging around my neck from a gold or any other chain to remind me of this terrible pain he must have gone through before he finally died. I know every day what Jesus done for us, and i love him for it, and i can testify, with a surety not hope but a surety that he and our father in heaven love each and every one of us, or we would not be here today. So no you do not need a cross, if you need reminding take a look at the smiling faces all around when you go to meetings, and at the babies that are so loved that they need no baptism until they have been around for eight years, at the missionarys who save up their own money to be able to spread the words of heavenly father, this is "The church of Jesus christ of Latter day saints" Not a piece of Jewelry. Please prey about these things that are troubling you, either on your own or with a couple of missionary's, these guys really know how to get through to heavenly father, they have helped me no end in the past.

MrNirom, after reading your above post i took a look at your profile and i feel you have had so many trials and more than your fair share of hurt and suffering, you have a beautiful family. I wish i had half the strength you must have to be able push on with your love for your father in heaven, He loves you so so much. I know this with a surety, he holds a special place for all of us in his heart.

I am 100% with prisonchaplain on this one, and the church is against it, these demons know everything about us and our families. I am sure that my loved ones who have moved on would not have time to come back to entertain the troops, so to speak, i am sure that some of these so called spiritualists do think they are doing good, but i am sure that they have not studied any of the bible or they would know it is a bad thing. This kind of deceit probably the easiest way to guide good people away from god, but hold fast and you will not only be speaking to your loved ones but i am sure you will be hugging them also.

Many years ago i read a book that gave individual accounts of LDS families on the big move from the east to the west. Does anyone know the name of this book. Thanks Jim

Thanks guys, i suppose this is the closest i have been to talking to members for a long while, and i can feel the compassion and fellowship already by reading some of the posts on the forum.

Hi i am a 56 year old Non active Member of "the church of Jesus christ of latter day saints" from England. I have been inactive for many years but i have never lost my testimony in all this time, i dont know why i have been able to keep it, and to my father in heaven i am so thankfull for this gift of knowing that the church is the one and only true church on the earth today and forever. Jim