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Oh..I didn't know she wasn't a member of the church!! I would try to get her in to the church before even thinking of saying yes to 'Will you merry me?' After all, we're commanded to be married in the temple for ever, and not 'until death do you depart.' Then there's.... I will go and do the things which the Lord hath commanded, for I know that the Lord giveth no commandments unto the children of men, save he shall prepare a way for them that they may accomplish the thing which he commandeth them.” (1 Ne. 3:7) So if she's the one the Lord wants you to merry, he'll prepare a way to get her in to the church, AND you'll get the bosom feeling to let you know she's the one you should merry. If you have a temple recommend, go to the temple to the Celestial room and pray. You can even actually ask to get either the bosom feeling or stupor of thought.

I got a senior aged cousin second removed, who got married after only about 10 days of knowing the guy. They are still married, and both are members of the church! Love at first sight is possible...if you're lucky!!

Read Doctrine and Covenants 9:8 Trust me, if you get this, it's not your emotions! Your emotions can't make your chest burn within you!

As man is, God once was; as God is, man may become. - Lorenzo Snow And his poem on this... Hast thou not been unwisely bold, Man’s destiny to thus unfold? To raise, promote such high desire, Such vast ambition thus inspire? Still ’tis no phantom that we trace Man’s ultimatum in life’s race; This royal path has long been trod By righteous men, each now a God: As Abra’m, Isaac, Jacob, too, First babes, then men—to gods they grew. As man now is, our God once was; As now God is, so man may be,— Which doth unfold man’s destiny. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . The boy, like to his father grown, Has but attained unto his own; To grow to sire from state of son, Is not ’gainst Nature’s course to run. A son of God, like God to be, Would not be robbing Deity; And he who has this hope within, Will purify himself from sin.

Hello members, stand by for the REST of the story. But first, you'll need to know a little about Martin Harriss' wife. From Chapter 23 of the book 'History of Joseph Smith' by his mother Lucy Mack Smith. With the view of commencing the work of translation and carrying it forward as speedily as circumstances would permit, Joseph came to me one afternoon and requested me to go to this Mr. Harris and inform him that he had got the plates and that he desired to see Mr. Harris concerning the matter. This, indeed, was an errand which I much disliked as Mr. Harris' wife was a very peculiar women, one that was naturally of a very jealous disposition; besides this; she was rather dull of hearing and when anything was said that she did not hear distinctly she suspected that it was some secret which was designedly kept from her. So I told Joseph that I would rather not go, unless I could have the privilege of speaking to her first upon the subject. To this he consented and I went according to his request. On arriving at Mr. Harris', I cautiously detailed the particulars with regard to Joseph's finding the plates, so far as wisdom dictated and necessity demanded in order to satisfy Mrs. Harris' curiosity. However, she did not wait for me to get through with my story before she commenced urging upon me a considerable amount of money that she had at her command. Her husband always allowed her to keep a private purse in order to satisfy her singular disposition, and it was this private money that she wished me to receive. She also had a sister living with her who desired me to receive an amount of money, I think some $75, to assist in getting the Record translated. I told her that I came on no such business, that I did not want her money and that Joseph would attend to his own affairs; but that I would like to talk to Mr. Harris a moment and then return home, as my family would soon be expecting me. Yet, notwithstanding all this, she was determined to assist in the business, for she said she knew that we would want money and she could spare $200 as well as not. After detaining me a few minutes she went with me to her husband and I told him that I wished to speak to him. He replied that he was not going to shop his work, for he was just laying the last brick in his hearth. "You see," said he, "this is the last work I have to do on the house, and it is the last work I shall do about the house, on on the farm, in one year. And when this is done I am going to hire a hand to work a year for me, as I shall travel that length of time before I shall settle myself at home again." After completing the work in which he was engaged, he left his house, but was absent only a short time. On returning, he came to me and said, " Now I am a free man--my hands are altogether untied--I can come and go and do as I please." I releated, in short, the errand on which I had come. He said that he would see Joseph in the course of a few days. At this his wife exclaimed, "yes, and I am coming to see him, too, and I will be there on Tuesday afternoon, and will stop over night." Accordingly, when Tuesday afternoon arrived, Mrs. Harris made her appearance and as soon as she was well seated she began to importune my son relative to the truth of what he had said concerning the Record, declaring that if he really had any plates, she would see them, and that she was determined to help him publish them. He told her she was mistaken--that she could not see them, for he was not permitted to exhibit them to any one except those whom the Lord should appoint to testify of them. "And, in relation to assistance," he observed, "I always prefer dealing with men, rather than their wives." This highly displeased Mrs. Harris, for she considered herself altogether superior to her husband and she continued her importunities. She would say, "Now, Joseph, are you not telling me a lie? Can you look full in my eye and say before God that you have in reality found a Record, as you pretend?" To this Joseph replied, rather indifferently, "Why, yes, Mrs. Harris, I would as soon look you in the face and say so as not, if that will be any gratification to you." The said she, "Joseph, I will tell you what I will do, if I can get a witness that you speak the truth, I will believe all you say about the matter and I shall want to do something about the translation--I mean to help you any way." This closed the evening's conversation. The next morning, soon after she arose, she related a very remarkable dream which she said she had during the night. It ran about as follows: She said that a personage appeared to her who told her that as she had disputed the servant of the lord, and said his word was not to be believed, and had also asked him many improper questions, she had done that which was not right in the sight of God. After which he said to her, "Behold, here are the plates, look upon them and believe." When Joseph had had a sufficient time to accomplish the journey and translate some of the Egyptian characters, it was agreed that Martin Harris should follow him--and that he (Martin) should take the characters to the East, and, on his way, he was to call on all the professed linguists, in order to give them an opportunity to display their talent in giving a translation of the characters. When Mrs. Harris heard of what her husband had in contemplation, she resolved to accompany him; but he, concluding that it would be better to go without her, left quite suddenly without her knowledge, in company with my son Hyrum. Mrs. Harris soon missed her husband, and came to me for the purpose of ascertaining if I knew where he was. I told her what she had said concerning his leaving, suppressing, however, his remarks pertaining to herself. On hearing this, she became highly exasperated, and charged me with planning the whole affair. I protested against it, asserting that I had nothing to do with the plan, nor the execution of it. Furthermore, that the business of a house, which was the natural cares of a woman, was all that I attempted to dictate, or interfere with, unless it was by my husband's or son's request. Mrs. Harris then observed that she had property, and knew how to take care of it, which she would convince me of. "Now stop" said I, "do you know that we have never asked you for money or property? and that if we had been disposed to take advantage of your liberality, could we not have obtained at least, $270 of your cash?" She answered in the affirmative, notwithstanding she went home in a great rage, determined to have satisfaction for the treatment which she had received. In a short time Mr. Harris returned, and his wife's anger kindled afresh at his presence, insomuch that she prepared a separate bed and room for him, which room she refused to enter. When Mr. Harris began to make preparations to start for Pennsylvania the second time, with the view of writing for Joseph, his wife told him that she had fully decreed in her heart to accompany him. Mr. Harris, having no particular objections, informed her that she might do so; that she might go and stay one or two weeks, and then he would bring her home again, after which he would return, and resume his writing for Joseph. To this she cheerfully agreed. But Mr. Harris little suspected what he had to encounter by this move. The first time he exhibited the characters before names, she took out of her pocket an exact copy of the same; and told those present, that "Joe Smith" was not the only man who was in possession of this great curiosity, that she had the same characters, and they were quite as genuine as those shown by Mr. Harris. This course she continued to pursue, until they arrived at Joseph's. As soon as she arrived there, she informed him that her object in coming, was to see the plates, and that she would never leave until she had accomplished it. Accordingly, without delay, she commenced ransacking every nook and corner about the house--chests, trunks, cupboards, etc; consequently, Joseph was under the necessity of removing both the breast-plate and the Record from the house, and secreting them elsewhere. Not finding them in the house, she concluded that Joseph had buried them, and the next day she commenced searching out of doors, which she contined to do until about 2:00 PM. She then came in rather ill-natured; after warming herself a little, she asked Joseph's wife if there were snakes in that country in the winter. She replied in the negative. Mrs. Harris then said, "I have been walking around in the woods to look at the situation of your place, and as I turned round to come home, a tremendous black snake stuck up his head before me, and commenced hissing at me." The women was so perplexed and disappointed in all her undertakings, that she left the house and took lodgings during her stay in Pennsylvania with a near neighbor, to whom she stated that the day previous she had been hunting for the plates, and that, after a tedious search, she at length came to a spot where she judged, from the appearance of things, they must be buried; but upon stooping down to scrap away the snow and leaves, in order to ascertain the fact, she encountered a horrible black snake which gave her a terrible fright, and she ran with all possible speed to the house. While this woman remained in the neighborhood, she did all that lay in her power to injure Joseph in the estimation of his neighbors--telling them that he was a grand imposter, and, that by his specious pretentions, he had seduced her husband into the belief that he (Joseph Smith) was some great one, merely through a design upon her husband's property. When she returned home, being about two weeks after her arrival in Harmony, the place where Joseph resided, she endeavored to dissuade her husband from taking any further part in the publication of the Record; however, Mr. Harris paid no attention to her, but returned and continued writing. Immediately after Martin Harris left home for Pennsylvania, his wife went from place to place, and from house to house, telling her grievances, and declaring that Joseph Smith was practicing a deception upon the people, which was about to strip her of all that she possessed, and that she was compelled to deposit a few things away from home in order to secure them. So she carried away her furniture, linen, and bedding; also other movable articles, until she nearly stripped the premises of everything that could conduce either to comfort or convenience, depositing them with those of her friends and acquaintances, in whom she reposed sufficient confidence to assure her of their future safety. And now the REST of the story, from Chapter 35. I will now give you a sketch of the proceedings of Martin Harris during the time he was absent from Joseph. After leaving Joseph, he arrived at home with the manuscript in safety. Soon after, he exhibited the manuscript to his wife and family. His wife was so pleased with it, that she gave him the privilege of locking it up in her own set of drawers, which was a special favor, for she had never before this allowed him even the privilege of looking into them. After he had shown the manuscript to those who had a right, according to his oath, to see it, he went with his wife to visit one of her relatives, who lived some 10 or 15 miles distant. After remaining with them a short time, he returned home, but his wife declined accompanying him back. Soon after this return, a very particular friend of his made him a visit, to whom he related all that he knew concerning the Record. The man's curiosity was much excited, and, as might be expected, he earnestly desired to see the manuscript. Martin was so anxious to gratify his friend, that, although it was contrary to his obligation [The Lord listed five people who belonged to Martin Harris' family who were allowed to see the manuscript. No one else had the Lord's OK.], he went to the drawer to get the manuscript, but the key was gone. He sought for it some time, but could not find it. Resolved, however, to carry his purpose into execution, he picked the lock and, in doing so, considerably injured his wife's bureau. He then took out the manuscript, and, after showing it to this friend, he removed it to his own set of drawers, where he could have it at his command. Passing by his oath, he showed it to any good friend that happened to call on him. When Mrs. Harris returned, and discovered the marred state of the bureau, her irascible temper was excited to the utmost pitch, and an intolerable storm ensued, which descended with the greatest violence upon the devoted head of her husband. Having once made a sacrifice of his conscience, Mr. Harris no longer regarded its scruples; so he continued to exhibit the writings, until a short time before Joseph arrived, to any one whom he regarded as prudent enough to kep the secret, except our family, but we were not allowed to set our eyes upon them. For a short time previous to Joseph's arrival, Mr. Harris had been otherwise engaged, and thought but little about the manuscript. When Joseph sent for him, he went immediately to the drawer where he had left it, but, behold it was gone! He asked his wife where it was. She solemnly averred that she did not know anything respecting it. He then made a faithful search throughout the house, as before related. The manuscript has never been found; and there is no doubt but Mrs. Harris took it from the drawer, with the view of retaining it until another translation should be given, then to alter the original translation, for the purpose of showing a discrepancy between them, and thus make the whole appear to be a deception. It seemed as though Martin Harris, for his transgression, suffered temporally as well as spiritually. The same day on which the forgoing circumstances took place, a dense fog spread itself over his field, and blighted his wheat while in the blow, so that he lost about two-thirds of his crop, whilst those fields which lay only on the opposite side of the road, received no injury whatever. I well remember that day of darkness, both within and without. To us, at least, the heavens seemed clothed with blackness, and the earth shrouded with gloom. I have often said within myself, that if a continual punishment, as severe as that which we experienced on that occasion, were to be inflicted upon the most wicked characters who ever stood upon the footstool of the Almighty--if even their punishment were no greater than that, I should feel to pity their condition. And now you know, the REST of the story. Good day!

I've been a church music addict for about 10 years now (Think gigs of church music and about six years of the Music and the Spoken Word broadcast recordings.), and had always wanted to make music videos covering church music, and finally started making them. Pop Quiz Question: Any one know what Doctrine and Covenants 25:12 is, with out looking??!!! The answer is at the end of the post. Joseph Smith's First Prayer - Mormon Tabernacle Choir Praise to the Man A Poor Wayfaring Man of Grief The Spirit of God Like a Fire is Burning Come, Come, Ye Saints I Stand all Amazed - With the Spirit World and Resurrection I Stand all Amazed He is RisenHe is Risen - Finding the Garden Tomb EmptyHe is Risen - With Mary and the ApostlesHe is Risen - In AmericaI Know that my Redeemer Lives Christ the Lord is Risen Today - America Christ the Lord is Risen Today - Mary and the Apostles Hail the Day That Sees Him Rise America The Beautiful - First half is Nature, second half is Patriotic. America The Beautiful - All Patriotic America The Beautiful - Nature and Patriotic Battle Hymn of the Republic History, then music video Battle Hymn of the Republic Distant Land Distant Land Flag of the Free God Bless America God Bless America God Bless America - September 11th Hymn for America Hymn to the Fallen Hymn to the Fallen The Last Full Measure of Devotion The Last Full Measure of Devotion My Country, 'Tis of Thee The Pledge of Allegiance Shenandoah The Star-Spangled Banner Stars and Stripes Forever Taps This Land is Your Land Who Are the Brave All Things Bright and Beautiful Amazing Grace For the Beauty of the Earth For the Beauty of the Earth For the Beauty of the Earth Come, Thou Fount of Every Blessing Come, Ye Thankful People, Come Because I Have Been Given Much Count Your Blessings Instead of Sheep Prayer of Thanksgiving I Believe in Christ Called to Serve Choose the Right Come, Follow Me Come to my Garden Dearest Children, God is Near You Each Life That Touches Ours for Good Encircle the Child Evening Prayer I Feel My Savior's Love I Feel My Savior's Love I'll Go Where You Want Me to Go Dear Lord God be With You Till We Meet Again God Bless Our Prophet Dear God Loved us, so He Sent His Son God So Loved the World Have I Done any Good in the World Today? He Died, the Great Redeemer Died High on the Mountain Top Home is a Special Kind of Feeling I Know My Father Lives I Know My Father Lives I Know That My Savior Loves Me Let the Mountain Shout for Joy - The Mormon Tabernacle Choir's 1910 recording and then a 2010 recording. Let the Mountain Shout for Joy - The Mormon Tabernacle Choir's FIRST Recording, in 1910. Look at the World Love at Home Love at Home Love One Another Love One Another Love One Another - Service The Morning Breaks A Mother's Eyes Reflect the Love of Heaven My Father's Faith My Mother's Love My Redeemer Lives Onward, Christian Soldiers Our Savior's Love - LDS Wheelchair Humanitarian Service - This one was made by the church. Passion of the Christ Ending - I Stand All Amazed - He is Risen Peace Like a River Praise to the Man - A Poor Wayfaring Man of Grief - The last 15 minutes of Joseph Smith's life. Saints Bound for Heaven Sweet Hour of Prayer They, the Builders of the Nation This Is the Christ We Ever Pray for Thee We Listen to a Prophet's Voice We Love thy House, O God We'll Shout and Give Him Glory What Shall We Give to the Babe in the Manger Where Can I Turn for Peace The Whole Armor of God - Mormon Tabernacle Choir Were You There When They Crucified My Lord You'll Never Walk Alone We Thank Thee, O God, For A Prophet - Music video of the Mormon Tabernacle Choir singing We Thank Thee, O God, For A Prophet while the church does the sustaining of President Thomas S. Monson for the first time, on April 5, 2008. We Thank Thee, O God, For A Prophet - Here Thomas S. Monson also bears his testimony. We Thank Thee, O God, for a Prophet - Ezra Taft Benson We Thank Thee, O God, for a Prophet - Gordon B Hinckley We thank thee, O God, for a Prophet - Howard W Hunter We Thank Thee, O God, for a Prophet - Lorenzo Snow We Thank Thee, O God, for a Prophet - Spencer W Kimball Youtube Channel Page - Fill free to subscribe. I don't think I'm done yet. Facebook page - Get daily videos on your wall. Doctrine and Covenants 25:12 For my soul delighteth in the song of the heart; yea, the song of the righteous is a prayer unto me, and it shall be answered with a blessing upon their heads. Which is how I got DandC25v12 for my youtube username. Christmas Music Videos

nFS is sweet!!!!!!! Our Temple District just got access, Medford Oregon. It's so easy it looks like a too good to be true upgrade!! Go through your family pedigree charts, get rid of dups, print requests out and take them to the temple!!

The Official Church tech forum - tech.lds.org has a long thread with a bunch of info about returnandreport.org. HT/VT Reporting Website Overview - LDS Technology Forums

Heavenly Father doesn't need the money, you need the blessings. Also, you don't pay tithing based on how much you have left after your expenses, but what you receive. If $20 isn't an increase, or money from the government isn't, I don't know what is! The scriptures don't say to pay your tithing...only if you earned the money from a job.

26 Megs per Episode. 1 gig for the whole series, 39 Episode.

A nice example to look at for an answer is looking at King David and Uriah. Doctrine and Covenants 132 Latter-day Saint Community He'll be living in the Telestial kingdon. Right now he's spending a long time weeping, wailing, and gnashing his teeth, but... On the other hand, if you murder with out having the gospel, receive the gospel and repent, it sounds like you can be fully forgiven. The Book of Mormon has examples of this. Murder after you receive the Gospel and you better be ready to have a very HOT experience for a looong time! Now exactly the type of hot experience you'll enjoy!!!

For a few years, our ward had a singles sunday school class. I'm 31, still single, and most of them were around 18. I was glad when the class died off, when over a few weeks, almost every one left for school, jobs or other stuff. You post a nice example of why we NEED segregation. Why combine them if they'll never return after being commented on by older singles on how their kids are the same age as them!! And that's another example why age segregation is good!

You can also use a program to record the sessions. Using BYU Radio at around 11:30 PM Monday-Friday, I recorded all 39 Episodes in to MP3 files. (WireTap Pro for Macintosh.)