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Its an interesting concept.. falling in love with two people at the same time. I didnt post this topic as a type of debate.. I just wanted to know what everyone's feelings were on the topic. I agree with Strawberry, love does grow over time if all the right choices and effort are involved. I also agree that an understanding of the others' needs is a huge part of being in love. I once heard the definition on BYUtv that love is "an accurate understanding of the others' needs and a willingness to meet those needs." I also agree that there are different types and different levels of love. I, for one, have a high standard concerning how/how much I expect to be loved. One can acknowlegde, both in and outside of The Church I'm sure, those relationships where the husband often is completely devoted to his wife and no other. The thoughts of other women NEVER enter their mind because they are completely happy and content with their wife. From a very worldly standpoint, this type of love from a husband can be seen with Rocky and Adrian. My institute director often comments about his wife in his lessons, he's said things such as "If any of you men find a wife half as wonderful as mine, you will be overwhelmingly happy for eternity." He is also very keen on any scripture that even hints that a wife comes first, or that a wife must be cherished and loved and expresses those scriptures to the men in the class every chance he gets, class-ly even. Ive also been in firesides where the speaker will take time out to introduce his wife simply because he wants her to be acknowledged. Ive often heard that we know nothing about our Heavenly Mother because Heavenly Father knew how we would profane and disrespect his name, and would not have the world do so to hers. I used to doubt that this kind of love exists, but I now know that it does and will settle for nothing less than this. Why should I if I know I can have it? If my husband loved me like this, I doubt he could love another woman at the same time he loved me. Those are just my thoughts. Agree or disagree, I dont care.. but I wont respond to your disagreement.

Is it possible to be in love with two people at once? Dont worry, folks.. I'm not in love with two people. Just wondering what your thoughts are on the topic. Thanks, Insert

Mission comes first. You'll be blessed for it and because you made the choice, you may even find extra blessings when you become a Marine.

"When you are sealed to family members there is a belief that you will be with them eternally. Is that right?" Yes. "If so, what happens when a family member progresses in exaltation? Say multiple sons become a god-what then?" I'm not quite sure I understand your question. I think LionHeart put it perfectly in his analogy where he likened it to us getting married and moving away but still being of the same family. In your specific questions, if multiple sons (or brothers) became gods, they would each govern their own universe's but this is where I'm not sure I understand your question.. they would still be brothers. They would still have contact and have relationships (for the lack of a better word). We must remember that the Celestial world and celectial glory is incomprehensible to us.. we have no idea how much The Lord can do at a time.. we have no idea what His day consists of. Just as an example, he could very well go out to lunch (if gods eat lunch) while answering all our prayers, conversing with our prophet, and working miracles. This is not doctrine at all, so bare with me.. simply my thoughts as you asked for. So anyway, going back to your question, if multiple sons became gods, they would simply become gods and that would be that. They would still be brothers... or sons or whoever their father was (if their father also made it to exaltation). "What of the god that you worship on Earth?" Our Heavenly Father will always be our Heavenly Father. Christ will always be our Savior. They are now and will be forever. We will still worship them.. I imagine the'll welcome us home, we'll rejoice, we'll get re-aquainted, we'll learn, and they'll teach. I KNOW they'll remain in the position they're in.. our Master, our Father, and our Savior. "I'd guess that he has siblings that may have also progressed but wouldn't they be on their own planet/universe?" I imagine so. Maybe they go out for lunch every once in a while? PS- Please dont take my "going out to lunch" comments (or any others like them) too critically.. I wrote this post with the understanding that we do not understand nor it is possible for us to understand the ways of the celestial world and so it is all simply put into worldy terms and I hope you can read it this way. I really dont know if gods even eat. I simply used the phrase to better explain my thoughts. On that note though, I would think that they do, not for health or nourishment or anything, but perhaps simply to reminisce? Who knows?

When we go to church, we go to serve/praise The Lord. Its appropriate to do this in our sunday best. For some this is a nice dress, for some this is a nice pair of dress pants. For some this can be a clean pair of levies and a clean tee. As long as it is your best, and you mean well, it is appropriate. The Lord knows the true intentions of your heart and even if you dont have time to take a shower before you go to church and go looking dirty for whatever reason, The Lord is grateful for your decision to attend. We attend church to strengthen our testimonies... our testimonies cannot sit stagnant. They are either constantly decreasing or increasing and thus, any time we are able to attend church is a help to our spirit. Being in our best dress adds to our attitude and puts us in a positive mind set so as long as one sincerely has on what they consider their best, good for them. If they dont for an honest reason, kudos to them for still making the decison to come to church and I would expect members of that ward to give kudos to them as well. I can only imagine they would understand. Though, we know not everyone or ward is flawless and in those cases we just have to get over those members who would shun those who cant quite make it to church in their sunday best or what others might consider ones best and realize their not perfect either. There has recently been a case in my YSA branch where a young lady who is not a member but is investigating The Church has been attending our ward for a few months now was recently approached by an older lady in the ward. This investigator happens to not own any skirts or dresses so she wears pant suits (which we all love her for and are all are completely fine with and just love that she comes to church) so this lady approaches her and tells her the suits arent appropriate and that she needs to wear dresses. Also, if she isnt going to stop wearing them, she needs to not come at all. Now this was completely uncalled for and this is exactly what I'm talking about above. There are very rare cases in The Church where this happens and we are members and investigators need to remember and realize that these are individuals who are making calls that are not their own. This young lady has not been back to church since and as a ward we are desperately trying to call her and get her back. We love her.. she's such a sweet girl and what she wears has absolutely nothing to do with anything. She wears what she considers best and we appreciate it. I think she is finally realizing that this older lady had no right to tell her not to come to church and is thinking about coming back.. which we're extremely glad for. But anyway, this post wasnt meant to be so long but I found this story related quite directly so I thought I'd share. --insert

Okay, I think this shows that I'm a huge nerd but I think this is hilarious.. A hydrogen atom sits down at a bar and the bartender notices he's a bit down. "What's keeping ya down?" he asks. "I lost my electron." He says. "Are you sure?" asks the bartender. "Yes, I'm positive." It gets me everytime.. --insert

This year its a YSA party/dance on friday night.... live clue on saturday night.. YSA FHE get together festivity on monday night.. and then trick or treating with the little ones in the family on tuesday night.. all the while the boyfriend and I are dressed up as Lois Lane and Superman. --insert

long long time ago since i'm almost 41 and was about 12 at the time...went to Calvary Baptist for 3 years....my sisters and i had a long walk every day Hey Guys... REALLY small world! I currently WORK in San Dimas and I'm actually going to be there this weekend to do a halloween activity.. Live Clue!

I'm currently reading The Coming of the Lord of Gerald Lund, Old Testament (Exodus), BoM (1 Nephi), and The Work and the Glory: Pillar of Light.

Dr. T, I take no offense to your post whatsoever. I actually pretty much agree with you. I have personally never used a discussion being "of satan" as an excuse not to discuss. I completely agree that discussion is a good thing and pondering and critical thinking are essential to our faith. In fact, this is exactly what we are counseled to do to find out for ourselves what the truth is and develope our own personal testimonies. No true testimony can be a testimony without personal critical thinking and pondering. I'm completely for this. What I simply meant in my post was that not all cases are like this. We all know that there are some whom purposefully come on this site just to provoke a fight. Those are the discussions I stay out of because they are discussions out of the spirit of contention, not honest curiosity or anything of a positive sort. A sitation like that IS of Satan and those are the situations I personally try to stay out of and think most people should.. I think if we all were to do that, we would save ourselves a lot of stress, frustration, and anger on people who dont even want to hear our side but only want us to hear theres. THAT is handing our temper over to Satan and thats what I was speaking of. Also, I metioned that we as Latter-day Saints know that only through the spirit are people converted, I would like to second this. Even in discussions where one does honestly want to learn but there are belief differences, the moment we get angry, we lose the spirit. When we dont have the spirit, we arent able to teach successfully. There are ways to discuss without getting angry when others disagree. I do it all the time and I'm sure there are a lot of others in the world that do as well. We have members on this board and all kinds of other boards.. and we've also got 52,000 missionaries out there that are doing it. Thats all. insert

Dr. T, Dancergirl is completely right. We're not at all counseled to hide from the world, we ARE counseled though to not argue and debate with a spirit of contention. I think that happens all too often on this board and I think whoever told Desire to leave was right (in saying that there is a lot of argue and debate with the spirit of contention). I do not mean to offend anyone so please, no one take offense, but she does have a point and it is something we all need to think about. And on the contrary, Dr. T, we are even asked to share the gospel with others like you stated a past president said. We just know that only through the spirit are people converted so when we get heated about what we're talking about, nothing is getting accomplished. The only success coming from a situation like that is Satan's success over our temper. I just wanted to add a little bit to what dancer said.. she's completely right. insert

I think sometimes people are scared of the Second Coming because they aren't prepared. Thus, they have negative feelings about it and probably would prefer not to indulge in something that will get them even more stressed and worried.

I've always liked going to the temple just to walk around and talk.. get to know each other. Its especially awesome as the sun is going down and then sitting and looking at the temple with all its lights on. I usually do this with close friends but who knows? It could go well with new dates. Someone mentioned catch phrase earlier.. I also love playing Imaginiif and Apples to Apples. I think you'd have to have the right girl for a few of these but I love playing sports.. I've played tennis, handball, tetherball, basketball, and football on dates.. its always a good way to laugh and get to know each other. Especially if its a new game and youre not particularly good at it. One thing I've always enjoyed it cooking dinner together. With multiple couples you could try making separate parts of the meal.. dinner and dessert for example, at separate houses for the different couples and then meeting at one place to share and eat the meal together. Another thing that is sort of similar to that is all the guys getting together and cooking for the girls and all the girls getting together and cooking for the guys.

“We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” George Bernard Shaw

“Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power.” Abraham Lincoln Smart man, that guy..

Kisses The more the dollar is printed, the less each one is worth. And so it is with kisses you've given since your birth. The value of your kisses, a sample cannot measure, Nor is your kiss more worthy if it's said to give one pleasure. The more and more you give away, the better your kiss is known. And to all the world, your kiss is cheap, and your affection shown. But if you save your kisses, no matter what the cost, You'll find as time moves forward, a chance you've saved, not lost! Then when you find the one you love, with whom you'll live life through, Think of the worth of a perfect kiss, if saved for only you... -- Alvin W. Jones III Okay, I havent read much of what anyone has posted on the topic but here is my take. President Kimball said this: "Kissing has been prostituted and has degenerated to develop and express lust instead of affection, honor, and admiration. To kiss in casual dating is asking for trouble. What do kisses mean when they are given out like pretzels, and robbed of sacredness?" Originally, kisses meant something. What do they mean now? To the general public, absolutely nothing. They are pleasure and thats all. Yes, Disruptive, I know.. "What's wrong with pleasure?" and absolutely nothing is wrong with that in the right time, place, and with the right person. I have been dating the same guy for 2 1/2 years.. we didnt kiss until after the first year. Everything was great for that first year, too. It was pure clean fun. We could laugh and just have awesome times together. Once we kissed, things started getting more serious. After a month, we started making out. After we'd gotten bored of making out, things went further. Before I knew it, I was talking to my bishop. Of course, not ALL kissing leads to other things but you either have to be doing the right kind of kissing (WHICH is NOT making out) or have a heck of a lot of self control. And trust me, no matter how much self control you think you have, Satan works EXTRA hard when he knows you're vulnerable. #1- when youre making out and think you can take it, he preys on the prideful... the ones who think they are strong enough. #2- he knows we have hormones and will want more so he helps us to justify going just a little further. Trust me, I know. No matter who you are, if you dont slip the first time, you'll slip the 2nd or 3rd or 4th. The Lord and his porphets know what they are talking about when they counsel against these things. The Lord knows everything and he knows you. You think He doesnt know your weaknesses and when you'll eventually give in? He does. And thats why he has his servants, the leaders of The Church, help us set standards for these things. Being a woman, I just gotta say this. Kisses mean different things to different people. A kiss may mean a lot more to one person than it does another. John Bytheway said this, "Kisses are wonderful, but they are powerful and should be handled with great care." Also, Thomas S. Monson said this, "Men, take care not to make women weep, for God counts their tears." If you disregard all the spiritual reasons regarding kissing, its as simple as this: people get hurt when their being lead on. A simple kiss can mean a lot more to me that it does to the guy giving the kiss. We all know how much it stinks to be hurt so just use youre head and actually think about things before you do them. I'm not looking for debates or arguments so there's my take on kissing, dont expect me to come back with a re-direct when you disagree.

This in response to the initial post. I havent read any of the in between stuff so excuse me if this response if off topic now. Anyway... growing up in The Church as the only member in my household was tough. Every time I was at church, I would look around and admire how perfect they all were.. with their perfect kids and perfect families. I always saw the love and patience the parents had and their wonderful strength and testimonies and was often very jealous. I wanted my family to be like that so much.. I wished I could go to church with a family (instead of alone) and have family home evening and family prayer... then I met my best friend. She was part of one of those prominent perfect families and as I hung out around their house for years growing up, I realized they actually weren't perfect at all. However they seemed at church, it certainly wasnt the way they were at home. #1 - People have to be examples at church.. even moreso than at home and in their daily lives. People have expectations that are expected to be met. #2 - no one is perfect. Only Christ is and no matter how hard we try to reach that perfection in this life, it will never happen. I believe that Gordon B. Hinckley is perhaps the most perfect human alive right now and even he isnt perfect. #3 - one can NEVER know everything there is to know about another or another family. I am still learning things about my best friends family whom I've been around for 8 years.