volgadon
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Bishop: Me
Counselors: Billy Graham, Fuller Seminary President Muller
If Billy Graham is going to be counsellor in the LDS.net ward, does that mean that I can have his televangelical business?
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I'm in agreement that the Josephus text does not describe Solomon as the "Son of David" therefore your argument is valid, but I can see how they rationalized their choice to use it.
M.
I can also see how they rationalise their choice- after all, I pointed out how they misread it- but the book you linked to shows at length how such a rationale is untenable.
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I was slightly teasing with my post (see emoticon).
M.
As long as we're in agreement that the evidence doesn't support the NET Bible's reading of this.
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I agree that's that what the author has stated, but maybe the people calling out "Son of David" in the gospels didn't know that. :)
M.
Please show me some evidence that they did consider "Son of David" a title for Solomon or a Solomonic figure.
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"It is therefore very questionable whether we can speak about Solomon redivivus, even less about the titular use of the term "Son of David" in this sense. The ability to heal by exorcising demons with the help of certain techniques left over from Solomon does not qualify a person to bear the title "Son of David" "
THe author strongly disagrees that Jesus is depicted here as a type of Solomon.
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From p. 106.
"Furthermore, the term "Son of David" is always applied to the historical Solomon, and not to a person who possesses the knowledge of Solomon and uses it in practice."
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One of the reasons we speak English in the U.S. today is because of the Crusades which prevented Europe from a take over of the Middle East.
It really doesn't explain why English and not French.
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Others disagree with you volgadon. I've added a link that I can't copy and paste; start reading at 3.4 Solomon as Exorcist:
M.
Maureen, are you sure you've read this through? Try from p. 103 onwards. The book actually supports what I was saying.
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I'm just glad that I haven't been called to anything in this thread!
I made the same mistake.
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Does this then suggest that, to the Jews of that day, the phrase "Son of David" was sort of a euphemism for "someone with great powers of healing?"
No. This suggests that the NET Bible often engages in faulty readings of sources.
Nowhere in the passage does Josephus link the healings, excorcisms and philosophy with the term "son of David" nor does it he use it that way later on.
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I doubt that I will ever lose all of my Islam.
No reason to lose the good things.
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So now we're supposed to go to sleep whenever he posts?
Why are you still awake?
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You're the high councilor assigned to the ward, volgadon.
My only consolation is that I receive 9% from you for my nihil obstat.
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Yay, 8 pages and I wasn't nominated once. I declare victory.
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Yikes! I haven't read a single one of those! I need to pick these up. Thanks, Volgadon!
I recommend Noli Me Tangere and the sequel El Filibusterismo by Jose Rizal (they have it in English version too). I hate to rag on Catholics but these 2 books may give validation to the Apostasy. At any rate, it's a great depiction of the struggles of Filipinos under Spanish rule if you're into symbolism and that kind of stuff. If not, then it's a great romantic tragedy...
I'll be sure to look those up as I am into that kind of stuff.
The Slave is a fantastic book retelling the story of Jacob and Rachel, and how time has a sense of justice.
Svejk is about a Czech soldier living the absurdities of war.
The Blue Mountain is about an area I grew up in, not to mention a good story of a kid's relationship to the grandfather who raised him.
The Betrothed is good 19th c. historical romance.
Unfortunately, the Twelve Chairs doesn't work too well in English, but it is one of my absolute favourite Russian novels. An aristocratic and con-man try to find a treasure hiding in 1 of 12 chairs during the 1920s.
A Dog's Heart is an allegory, showing how dog with a good heart can be turned into a vile curr of a man.
Quiet Flows the Don takes place in an area I served in. There are statues & murals all over the place depicting scenes from the book. Powerful story of war and family struggle.
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Here are a few non-English books (in no particular order) which I'm curious to see if anyone has read.
1) The Betrothed - Alessandro Manzoni.
2) Broken April - Ismail Kadare.
3) The Slave - Isaac Bashevis Singer.
4) With Fire and Sword (trilogy) - Henryk Sienkiewicz.
5) The Good Soldier Svejk - Jaroslav Hasek.
6) A Dog's Heart - Mikhail Bulgakov.
7) The Twelve Chairs - Ilf and Petrov.
8) The Blue Mountain - Meir Shalev.
9) And Quiet Flows the Don - Mikhail Sholokhov.
10) The Castle - Franz Kafka.
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I've read over 30 of those on the list.
Interesting that The Once and Future King isn't on it.
I think it was, back in 2003 or 2004. Marvelous book.
The list changes from time to time. A lot of the old stalwarts such as Jane Austen are always there.
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Here are the ones I've read. Some left me indifferent, but there are others that I absolutely adore and a few I dislike strongly. All in all I think I've a good showing
1 Pride and Prejudice – Jane Austen
2 The Lord of the Rings – JRR Tolkien
3 Jane Eyre – Charlotte Bronte
5 To Kill a Mockingbird – Harper Lee
6 The Bible
7 Wuthering Heights – Emily Bronte
8 Nineteen Eighty Four – George Orwell
10 Great Expectations – Charles Dickens
11 Little Women – Louisa M Alcott
12 Tess of the D’Urbervilles – Thomas Hardy
13 Catch 22 – Joseph Heller
14 Complete Works of Shakespeare
16 The Hobbit – JRR Tolkien
18 Catcher in the Rye – JD Salinger
20 Middlemarch – George Eliot
22 The Great Gatsby – F Scott Fitzgerald
23 Bleak House – Charles Dickens
24 War and Peace – Leo Tolstoy
25 The Hitch Hiker’s Guide to the Galaxy – Douglas Adams
27 Crime and Punishment – Fyodor Dostoyevsky
28 Grapes of Wrath – John Steinbeck
29 Alice in Wonderland – Lewis Carroll
30 The Wind in the Willows – Kenneth Grahame
31 Anna Karenina – Leo Tolstoy
32 David Copperfield – Charles Dickens
33 Chronicles of Narnia – CS Lewis
34 Emma – Jane Austen
35 Persuasion – Jane Austen
36 The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe – CS Lewis
40 Winnie the Pooh – AA Milne
41 Animal Farm – George Orwell
42 The Da Vinci Code – Dan Brown
45 The Woman in White – Wilkie Collins
46 Anne of Green Gables – LM Montgomery
47 Far From The Madding Crowd – Thomas Hardy
49 Lord of the Flies – William Golding
52 Dune – Frank Herbert
54 Sense and Sensibility – Jane Austen
57 A Tale Of Two Cities – Charles Dickens
58 Brave New World – Aldous Huxley
61 Of Mice and Men – John Steinbeck
62 Lolita – Vladimir Nabokov
65 Count of Monte Cristo – Alexandre Dumas
67 Jude the Obscure – Thomas Hardy
70 Moby **** – Herman Melville
71 Oliver Twist – Charles Dickens
72 Dracula – Bram Stoker
73 The Secret Garden – Frances Hodgson Burnett
78 Germinal – Emile Zola
79 Vanity Fair – William Makepeace Thackeray
81 A Christmas Carol – Charles Dickens
85 Madame Bovary – Gustave Flaubert
87 Charlotte’s Web – EB White
89 Adventures of Sherlock Holmes – Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
90 The Faraway Tree Collection – Enid Blyton
91 Heart of Darkness – Joseph Conrad
92 The Little Prince – Antoine De Saint-Exupery
94 Watership Down – Richard Adams
96 A Town Like Alice – Nevil Shute
97 The Three Musketeers – Alexandre Dumas
98 Hamlet – William Shakespeare
99 Charlie and the Chocolate Factory – Roald Dahl
100 Les Miserables – Victor Hugo
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A Jewish octagenarian goes to a gynecologist for the first time. He instructs her to undress.
-You want I should take my clothes off?
-Yes, I do.
-Listen, Doctor, does your mother know that from this you make a living?
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Am I understanding you correctly? Alma 13 indicates that we (those ordained to the priesthood on earth) were ordained before this life to receive the priesthood. Are you implying that holding the priesthood in this life does not require an ordination in this life? If so can you provide a reference?
The Traveler
I think you misunderstood me. I was saying essentially the same as you in this post.
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Thoeries, you are misreading the quote. The patriarchs enumerated were given the priesthood before they were born, but the keys were given on earth.
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Good afternoon volgadon! :)
Says who?
Regards,
Finrock
That is easy. The rest of the world. =)
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I don't know if it's wrong but here's a thought:
Heavenly Father, by keeping someone alive, seems to think that this person's earthly trial is not yet over. Who are we to question Him?
Who are we not to question him when our brethren are in distress? Why should we take the fatalistic stance of 'it is what it is'? Don't you think that we should at least ascertain God's will first rather than assuming that God wants a person to remain as they are? I am not saying that we should bitterly fight God's decisions. What we should do is to attempt to have God change a person's situation for the better. If it truly is not His will then He won't change it.
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so, the all knowing God sent them down to those experiences and you are saying you think its all a mistake that needs correcting?
Are you saying that we should never pray for an ill person's recovery since the all knowing God sent them down to those experiences?
Definition of 'Angel'?
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Hebrew, actually.