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Figures.

Isn't the fact that neither of you are offended or trying to offend enough to get back on topic?

She didn't say you were giving off any impression. She was asking how you got the impression that she was trying to offend anyone.

That goes into God has a father, which is debated even in the LDS community. Those who don't generally look outside the chapel believe that God did have a father himself, but this belief isn't widely accepted so much anymore... Again, just with those who don't look outside LDS approved material are more likely to believe this.

She has been saying the whole time she is only looking for answers... She was kind of getting them until everyone decided it doesn't matter and they aren't going to talk about it anymore...

So then you and HiJolly agree, just in different words?

I don't think the goal is to put you in a box. I think the goal is just to better understand and that is what helps most of the world understand.

I don't think that is what he meant. As far as I understood he said that for the most part he tries to reconcile the two, but when that doesn't work he trusts in his faith.What I got from you is science and faith can never be reconciled. I believe science can explain a few things that faith can't, but I don't worship it. In fact I don't even think scientists do. I am not sure you need to...

I am sure it is great that you don't mind, but the rest of the world likes to have a clear idea.

He wasn't really "simply" speaking out against it. He called them a cancer. I understand why you feel it may be a problem, but apparently it isn't as bad as they all say.

Lol. It is okay. I obviously wasn't paying enough attention.

But they usually don't. Society isn't crumbling. If it really was that big of a problem it wouldn't be so hard to find instances in Canada where it happened. I don't know if it has happened, but if it has, like I said it isn't often enough to be a problem. The first thing on the LGBT community seems to be that they can now marry... not so much who they are going to sue. They can do what they feel they need to to protect the churches. But again, it is legal here in Canada, and there is still no collapse in society. Thank you for the link. I will read it tomorrow. It is late here. Nighty

It was a "warning to Canada". What he did say was wrong but I don't think that the laws in Canada are quite the same regarding that. I think it would only count if the homosexuals were harassed in some way. Also it had nothing to do with allowing gay marriage. It was a separate law calling anything against homosexuals a hate crime.

Thanx, and I'll look at it, but I meant the one in Canada.

Okay. Thank you. n_n I look forward to reading it. Is that the only case or are there stats or anything?

*sigh* No. It was Kawazu. Sorries. Anyway, yeah... it was Ezek

Not anymore... O.o *sigh* I have to go find it again...

It hadn't happened in Canada. Churches here still generally don't accept gays. Infact I have had gay friends kicked out of churches. They don't even care that much though. It is understood that it is a religious thing. That is dumb wherever that is happening. That is if they are only preaching their gospel and not being mean.

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I planet they believe is near where God is. Apparently not near here. Not a belief I or any other religion holds.

Originally Posted by Justice PC, did the "called out ones" come to dwell on earth? I don't get who the church was made up of before the earth was created (in your view). Originally Posted by PC The called out ones were not before the earth was created. Jesus spoke to Peter, so they would have been his disciples whom Satan wanted to kill, steal from, and destroy. Originally Posted by Justice Satan wanted God's power long before God put him out of heaven. Indeed, that is why God put him out of heaven. What exactly was it he wanted? It wasn't revenge for being put out of heaven because that hadn't happened yet. Originally Posted by PC By the time Jesus spoke to Peter, Satan had indeed been cast out of heaven. I don't know why you would want it in his words if you didn't understand him the first time. O.o You could scroll up for his words... but I decided that there may be a reason why you aren't...

Ahem. It is from your source. Did you read the link you sent me?!? I will send it to you. Mormon/LDS Answers: Questions about LDS Prophets and the Mormons

Can I have an example please? O.o

He was answering them O.o

They are from your source Ezekiel ch 29 17-20