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I mentioned abortion once and everyone ignored what I said about homosexuality in that comment and kind of honed in on the abortion part. I am not saying the majority are and I disagree with abortion just because you don't want the baby... but that is no reason why should it be illegal in all cases.

So then crack babies should still happen? And the father impregnating his daughter? It is okay that the baby needs to live with any number of genetic and psychiatric problems, and the mother has to carry the product of her fathers rape around? That is all okay?

I actually have a question now too. n_n Umm... So couldn't we have been created with the knowledge of good an evil? Thanx

You are a rebel? What are you rebelling? Is it religion? I wanna know. This could be interesting!

I know this might be just a tad off topic but what is an example of "absolute witness by the Holy Ghost" and has anyone received it?

If the church is unchanging anything that is revelation back then is revelation now. I know you hear this a lot but I was pretty much taught and believed this, and I don't understand why now we are to not really consider it at all...

Welcome to the site. Nice to meet you. n_n

Welcome to the site. Nice to meet you! n_n

Hi! Welcome to the Forum! I have already seem a couple of your posts. It is very nice to meet you and have you here. I hope to be able to read more from you. n_n

Lol. Thanx. I think that is the best resolution the two of us can come to.

You need to read my posts, not skim them... I read yours (it isn't long) twice now and I response still stands. If you don't understand it say so. Don't just accuse me of things.

I did but I'll do it again... Exactly! It is just some party because now you have taken out a contract together... Hazzah You think marriage you think love (not religion strangely enough). You think Civil Contract you think obligation. In fact love doesn't cross my mind. I am sorry but we already have the word marriage and you can't make it just a religious institution anymore.

I am going to be with Cael anyway. I love him and that is just the way life is. Same with homosexual couples, only legally if one is the the hospital, the other can't visit. There are life insurance issues and custody issues that can't be resolved which hurt any kids involved in the relationship. You can accept that they are out there and want rights, and in turn let them have it... or you can "not support" what is already happening and deny them any further rights in turn hurting any children that happen to be in that family. Lol. So the only people who can show their love by getting married are those who have a religion? The rest of us can pretend to be getting married with a ceremony but we are only signing a contract? I really think if you were homosexual or even simply out of religion you would see the problems with that. I am all for separating religion from state, but marriage has already been separated from religion. Why would we suddenly change what was done and give it back?

How is this the same thing? If a father rapes his daughter, so you think the daughter wants to carry that around for nine months? What it is an abusive situation and the wife/gf is trying to leave, but then finds out she is pregnant. What if the mother is a crack head and she KNOWS she is not going to stop doing crack anytime soon and would rather get an abortion? That baby will die anyway you know. People are going to get an abortion anyway, and those people are going to probably die. I know I just repeated myself, but I am not sure you quite got it the first time. If you don't believe in abortion... don't get one.

XD I am talking about things like Prop 8. Homosexuals exist and there are couples who love eachother and want rights. That needs to be accepted. Whether they have support or not, they should be atleast allotted the choice to choose. Did you know abortions happened even when they were illegal? Did you know women died getting these abortions? Don't you think it should be legal just for the safety of the people who are going to do it anyway? Why do they have to die when it can be done safely in hospitals? (another topic for another time I guess) Just a little personal story about the difference between acceptance and support. I was applying to college with my dads help. He paid 350 that was necessary to secure my place, and he took me to the college regularly when I needed to pick something up or get something. I was also doing the OSAP thing (which is a student loan). I can not attend without OSAP because I can't afford to pay for it all. Anyway, my dad said that he would help me get ANYTHING I needed to get to school. This was not true however. My dad doesn't want to support me and Cael living together, so when it came to proving me and Cael's Common Law relationship my dad refused. He said he doesn't want to support the relationship. I live with Cael regardless if he supports it or not. We are already Common Law so it isn't like he is preventing anything but my being able to attend college. Unfortunately the fall semester is going to start on the 8th without me...

That was already talked about. They wanted to just call it a contract... "I love you so let's sign a contract" XD Well, whatever. Marriage isn't just a religious institution anymore. Any heterosexual without a religion can enter into it, and homosexuals should be allowed to enter into it too.

Keep researching and you are welcome to ask us any questions you have. We will do our best to answer! n_n Welcome to the forum!

Hi! Nice to meet you! I hope we start seeing some of your posts in threads. n_n

Hello. Nice to meet you! Welcome to the forum!

You don't have to support it at all. Just don't stand in the way of it either... You don't support abortion (assuming because I am pretty sure in LDS faith you don't) but you aren't trying to make it illegal.

Good. Glad we are in agreement then that government has already taken marriage out of religion and now everyone should be allowed to have it with at least one partner. More then one is something we will cross when we come to it.

Do women get many husbands as well or are we going back to the sexist way of things?

Lol!

XD This feels like High School again. *sigh* Have fun! I never myself did like camping... What is the prize? Can I eat it?

Mee-Ow Religion is a touchy subject. It is good to be careful.