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One of my favorite movies. I don't remember/get the reference though...
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What significance does that hold?
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Jason, $1.50?
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That was funny. Can I buy the rights to knowledge for $1?
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Hi AK, I understand that you are not trying to convince me. I appreciate you approach to education! I apologize for not addressing your question about how I am doing. I've been up and own. Numb hands, loss of words, slower, etc. those are not fun, but I am alive, breathing and have a beautiful wife and children to keep me company. Plus, I started pending the last couple of days here. (My wife is out of town so I have a lot of time to type away). :) As far as Jesus attaining priesthood prior to birth on Earth has there been any writing or messages about how that took place? Thanks
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Hey miztrniceguy, Does it have something to do with a left-handed handshake, a pinky twist and an olive? Serg, Sounds like you have really been considering those important topics. They sound awfully big! Dr. T
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Brother AK, I wondered/worried if caring for him has been taking its toll on you. Sir, you will be in my prayers. I know the difficulty of medical issues and how it impacts the whole family, particularly the caretaker. Respect to you sir! May God give you the strength to carry on and the sustenance to persevere. Prayers will also go up for your father and your mother in this difficult time. Any opportunity for respite? Other family members or home nurse for 48 hours? Dr. T
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Quick reply about why I think forgetting is not perfection. Say you study for a test. On that test you forget the answer to 1 out of 100 and therefore answer that one wrong. Is your score a perfect 100%? NO. 99% is not perfect. That is why I don't see why not remembering can be seen as perfect. As far as the god in embryo concept. From your understanding, why was it that Satan kicked out of heaven? Thanks
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That is a very useful site. I wondered "what am I going to do with that much wheat?!?" but there are recipes. How much do you think that will all cost (6 people 4 children and 2 adults). THanks
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Serg, Thanks for the reply. (I have no idea about two of those topics but thank you just the same). Dr. T
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Hey good hearted Ray, What do you make of Gen 2:7 "And the LORD God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." If we are all literall offspring, what of the "being formed of the dust of the ground" and requireing God to "breath into his nostrils the breath of life." Thanks
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Hello Outshined, Thank you so much!
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Hello all, Just curious if it is possible to find out how the food storage system works amongst LDS. I would love to see a how to guide. I think it is a brilliant idea. Thanks
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Hey Serg, Don't go indepth about it but what are the sorts of things that you see as untrue? Thanks
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Hello Ray, I understand that you are not calling Jesus the Father. You say you are calling him God because: #1. He was the son of God (and a son is always the same species of that of the father). Given this premise, does it follow that you are god? #3. What do you mean by possessing “all the perfection of our Father in heaven?” and “He is still as perfect as God ever was, and as all Gods can ever be?” Your concept of Jesus “forgot” is fascinating. Forgetting seems to me to be a liability that contradicts “perfection” (in every way). Again, Ray, a pleasure. Thank you, Dr. T Hi AK, Sounds like you want the best of both worlds! Hey brother, I have learned the dramatic difference. I can read that Ray is talking from a different perspective. I am just curious how this concept is processed from an LDS perspective. I've been wondering about you. Have things been ok. You are pretty quiet over the last couple of days. I hope things are OK with you. Dr. T
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Hi Ray, I'm really enjoying you right now. I’m curious if you are certain that you and PC have a similar take on that? From where do you get that conclusion? To answer your question sir, I was not saying that faith and logic can never be harmonized. I was merely commenting on the (westernized form of thought) apparent necessity for an illogical conclusion (violation of noncontradiction) and accepting our reading of Jesus being two things at the same time yet still believing it as true/logical/reasoned. It seems to me, He was one person not two. When we say He was God and not God, all knowing yet didn't know something, etc. this is a logical violation. If we try and solve this by saying that He merely compartmentalized His divine attributes and did not use them, then we are essentially saying the same thing. Even if He chose to not know something for a split second, He ceased to be all knowing. That is all I was trying to say about faith and reason there not being harmonized. I think that we are obligated to putting logic aside and accept this on faith (in this instance) if we are going to accept this belief. Here they do not harmonize so what do we do? Dr. T Ray, Our posts crossed in the mail I guess. From what you are saying of your assurance even this would work for you: "2+2=5 and I know what a four sided triangle looks like." Those things do not follow Ray. It sounds like you are saying that if you pray enough and get a feeling then those statements are true. You felt an assurance. No matter how much assurance you feel about 2+2 being 5 or there is such a thing as a 4 sided triangle, there are no such things. What about a round square? Please set me straight if I'm off there. Thanks
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Did Jesus turn His divine attributes on and off? Miracles for example, did He walk on water using omnipotence or was it a through the humanity side? If we say divine nature then what is there to stop us from saying that He just turned it off and on? If He did that, His ability to not sin does not seem all that amazing. Just some thoughts... Dr. T
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Here are some definitions for gamble: 1 a : to play a game for money or property b : to bet on an uncertain outcome 2 : to stake something on a contingency : take a chance transitive senses noun [sing.] an action that you take when you know there is a risk but when you hope that the result will be a success: She knew she was taking a gamble but decided it was worth it. They invested money in the company right at the start and the gamble paid off (= brought them success). It was the biggest gamble of his political career. what do you think?
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Hi lisajo, You wouldn't happen to work somewhere making black ski masks and other black clothing would you???
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Have you tried that experiment? The next time one of my children lose a tooth, I'm going to put it in a glass of Coke and see if it really eats it away in 24 hours. I'm skeptical (surprise surprise). Dr. T
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That is a very interesting thought. I need to do some study of it before I walk away with this belief but from what you that verse sounds like (and I realize that it is OUT OF CONTEXT) it looks like God decieves him and then kills him. That needs some looking into. Dr. T
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Hey PC, Thanks for your thoughts. I've done some research on the critics of Kenotic Theology (same logic as the Arians) and they often cite that although the “Word became flesh,” the emptying in the Phil. vs. you cited is better read as an outward humbling of His divinity. He continued to hold the divine nature while not externally showing that to be the case. He came as a servant and we see His abasement in that He grew in stature, was tempted like we all are, subjected to the laws of humanity (birth, growth, death, hunger, suffering, internal torment, etc) . Praise the Lord and thanks be to God! You are correct, He accepted praise, He called himself God, etc. Also, when you say that He forgave sins, in that instance, He said, "Your sins are forgiven." He did not necessarily say, "I have forgiven your sins." Perhaps He was speaking for the Father. Sir, I am not trying to shoot down your thoughts or dismiss your hard work, I am very familiar with scripture and it's showing that Jesus was both God and man. My main question is “how do we” and “is it even possible to logically reconcile the concept without falling into heresy and staying true to scripture.” I know that the Christian church would say that Jesus was God, created everything, is the savior who came down to earth to live a sinless life, be crucified, die and be buried, defeat death through the resurrection, now sits at the right hand of the Father, etc. I also see that He did not know things, he was not omnipresent, etc. while in His human form. If I hold that Jesus was fully God I would expect Him to possess all the attributes of God (Omni-everything basically) yet we know that humans do not posses such attributes. Do we just throw logic out the window and say, "My beliefs are ultimately illogical" or is there a way to logically reconcile these beliefs? Kierkegaard* is the one that said, "Faith and reason cannot be harmonized." I guess, if I eventually come to that conclusion then I'm in good company. Thanks, Dr. T * Sören Kierkegaard. Concluding Unscientific Postscript, trans. David F. Swenson and Walter Lowrie (Princeton: Princeton University Press. 1941). p. 480; Philosophical Fragments, trans. David F. Swenson and Howard V. Hong (Princeton University Press, 1936, 1962), pp. 46-47; S. U. Zuidema, Kierkegaard (Philadelphia: Presbyterian and Reformed Publishing Company, 1960).