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Yes, I meant "Free Love" lol, not "Love for All." Aha, well they never tought about Hippies in Primary, just the peace symbol. They vaguely mentioned that one time, so I'm surprised I even remember! I put two and two together because the peace symbol was a large motif of that time and especially of Hippie decor. The mindset you mention is definitely the one that I had in mind, so thanks for elaborating. But don't you agree that "Free Love" is uncomparably Un-Christian and too liberal for any religious institute that teaches of Christ? I mean, that totally dethrones the sanctity of marriage and chastity. That's what I was trying to get at in my previous post.

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Aha! This also proves that Clark Kent is Jesus, despite also being a prodigal son archetype. Maybe the reason for this is to show that no matter how religious anyone is, they're not perfect? Jesus/Clark Kent/Mormons can be tempted just like everyone else?

I've heard simular stories when I was a kid in Primary, especially how it was used to symbolize an individual's denial of Christ and Christianity. That would make sense in regards to the 1960's hippie movement. The "Love for All" theory is not at all Christian, especially in the terms that I have heard it from former Hippies. To commit adultery is to break one of the Lord's commandments, and to do that is to deny the teachings of Christ. I guess the Peace Symbol was meant to advertise that an individual was "up for anything," and that they weren't tied down to the modest teachings of any Christian church. Hmm, hope this helps at all.

Does that conclude that in biblical times, women used their hair as sort of a bra like covering? If so, I guess that can be taken to to say that hair back then helped to promote modesty, which in sum, is a glorious thing. So maybe it isn't the hair in fact that is a glory, it is the woman taking precautions to be modest. That would make sense in a time where clothes were hard to come by, a woman would just grow her hair long enough to cover herself. I wonder if that rings true, however...

Aha, anyone watch the Seinfeld episode when Kramer houses the Japanese business men in a wardrobe? Thanks to the distortion in this picture, I can almost imagine a few wives simularly tucked away below that window seat on the far right. -> Amelia's Palace, Third Floor Bedroom Showing Old Bed of Brigham Young

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Exactly! This is how I see it: When we meet Heavenly Father, he won’t judge us by how well we kept our hair in our lifetime, but how productively we spent our time and how well we obeyed his commandments. To put it simply, our hair, no matter how shiny or long or amazingly spiffy the styling is, plays no role in our salvation. I think when it comes down to it, women who spend ghastly amounts of money ($50,000+ yearly) on their hair may possibly have issues with self-image, or are incredibly selfish. Like I said earlier, couldn't that have been used for something more useful such as towards helping a charity?

Thanks so much! I was really disappointed when they didn't include that in the tour!

My only beef with that idea is that there is indeed a point where a woman makes her “glory’ into an obsession. We women are compelled anyway to keep up our appearance for the benefit of finding/keeping a man or impressing the public, but shouldn’t our “glory” be measured not entirely by how we look, but by our actions and accomplishments as well?

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I took a tour of Brigham Young's home in downtown SLC a week ago, and the Sister Missionaries paused at the landing that divides into the 3rd story stairs and (I think?) another room, but failed to mention what was on the 3rd floor before continuing on with the tour. The landing I'm talking about is the one with the window in which Brigham's children would watch for visitors coming in, and his daughter, especially, for her "Prince." Anyone know what's up there or was taken up there on a tour? I've heard rumors that's where he kept his wives, but who knows?

How ridiculous! I could never fathom spending so much on my hair. I'm pretty lucky my hair is low maintenance, despite the fact that I have to straighten it daily in order to conquer the waves and frizz. I get it cut about 2-3 times a year at a low price salon, so 15 x 3. Then on top of $45 a year to get it cut, I use Treseme Shampoo and Conditioner, and I usually have to replace that about 5 times a year. So 5 x 2 x 4 + $45. Plus the cost of tools, a hair straightener, which cost me about $25, and a hair curler, which cost me around $15. I let my hair air dry, and I honestly avoid using serums and sprays because I like the more natural look, so that saves on buying a hair dryer and creams. Plus, I have thick, red-head hair as it is, so I have to be careful with it frizzing, weighing it down, and making it too oily. We buy dollar store combs and have been using them for years now, so that only adds on a couple dollars. I also don't use accessories or hair clips, I just wear my hair down everyday to save time in the morning. So overall, I spend about $130 on my hair yearly, give or take. Since I don't dye or perm my hair or have it styled, I highly doubt I'd ever reach that peak of $50,000 haha. In fact, doing the math, I'll probably only spend about $10,000 on my hair in a lifetime, which is still quite a lot, but thankfully not as much as Brandi Irwin. What kind of job does she have anyway that she could waste so much on her hair and still have enough money to live? To me, there are more important things to invest money on despite hair. I'd rather put that towards a car or a house, something that holds value and is useful. What about charity? Haha, I know I'm digressing from the point of the post, but this subject does strike up an interesting point in which how much is too much to spend on vanity?

Hi, I'm Marie. I joined this site a couple weeks ago, but hadn't really had a chance to introduce myself yet. Well, to start off, I was born in the church and am thankful I have had that opportunity to be instilled with the teachings of the gospel and the word of wisdom since birth. Sorry in advance for how long this post is, but I figure if I'm going to introduce myself, I might as well do it properly haha. I live in Arizona, but am planning to move up to northern Utah with my family next summer after I complete my Freshman year in college. The economy down here is in shambles, and outside of the church, my neighborhood is full of crime and immorality, which is unfortunate, because it was a beautiful neighborhood in the 90s. My father hasn't had an architecture job in almost 2 1/2 years and so we're desperate for a change. Last week we stayed in Provo/Salt Lake for our vacation and took a day drive up to Logan, absolutely beautiful, not to mention, someone we talked to said the economy was booming in that area. Although to our understanding winter lasts about 6 months in a year up in Logan, USU is the only institution in Utah that offers a degree in Music Therapy, and that's what I'm interested in. I love music, and to be able to use and share my own personal passion to heal others would be a dream. I am just praying to God that he'll help us find our way up there. As far as my testimony goes, I do know for a fact that the church is true, and am thankful for the services it provides and for the family values it hails. I am personally grateful for being able to get a job at Desert Industries; the economy is so off the rail down here no one will hire me due to my lack of job experience, but after talking to my Bishop and getting an appointment with DI, they hired me off the bat. Although they won't turn anyone way and the work is only temporarily, this is all I need to get my foot in the door of life and to get the training I need to find another job. I know Heavenly father looks out for us, and will be there to guide us as long as we seek his counsel and keep his commandments. I thank Joseph Smith for his faith and diligence in translating the Book of Mormon so that we today may understand Heavenly Father's plan even better. That is all I have to say, thanks for taking your time to read, if you did in fact take your time to read all of my ramblings haha. I'm glad to now be apart of this forum

Thanks guys, I've decided to take your word and just jump to Institute. Now to figure out how to enroll, and at what time are Institute classes running down here in AZ. I'll have college classes starting the 23rd on Monday through Thursday, and I'll be working at Deseret Industries Friday and Saturday, so I just hope Institute will be early enough in the morning to attend otherwise I'll have some schedule rearranging to do. And surprise! I was born into the church as well as most of my father's family leading down to the establishment of the church. Like I said, complicated matters. Fortunately we never lost our faith in Heavenly Father, the church, and our values, we just weren't able to attend our ward for awhile. Luckily we've been getting on track and have noticed its been a great blessing. Anyways, thanks again everyone for your clarification of Institute! I can't wait. :)

Hey there! I'm Marie. As the title suggests, I have NEVER attended seminary. Long story short, my family was inactive for awhile due to complicated family matters, and failed to take the initiative to enroll me or inform me about seminary while I was in high school. Now, the obstacles preventing my family from attending church have lifted, and we've been back on track and studying the scriptures like we should. However, I would like to gain a higher education in the gospel. I'm about to turn 18 and start college in the fall, and I have no idea where I should be going to do so. I understand that Institute is where students my age SHOULD be, but without the basic fundamentals of the scriptures gained in Seminary, I feel that it would be more beneficial to my gospel understanding to attend Seminary and work my way up. Hmm.. What I am wondering, however, is, will I be allowed to attend Seminary although I am not a high school student? Or must I take seminary first before I go on to Institute? Or would it be better to skip Seminary and go straight to Institute despite my void of Seminary education and just work hard/self-study to catch up? This a very complicated matter, and I've asked several church authorities (except my Bishop, he's out on vacation till August), and I can't seem to find any answers. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!