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I think I am starting to understand her! (scary I know) Translates as: "Having Documentation for the origin of our beliefs helps people who don't know about our beliefs understand our reasoning better, so when they ask God to confirm our beliefs, they know what they are really asking." I could be wrong. Josh B)

Since I don't really know but don't want you to wait too long for your questions to be answered; here's some good stuff to read in the meantime from (of course) Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctrine_and_Covenants M. Thanks :) Josh B)

I AM LEARNING ABOUT THIS IN SEMINARY! Someone, translate for me when I am done!!!! The D&C can and has change. It is not yet finished, and will continue to be added onto. My dad says (I only gave him 10 words)... "Yes. Every general conference. No (Dez: not finished work.. ps. I am going to say this for him, because he doesn't have enough words... he said Elder Boyd K. Packer refers to it as "the book that never closes".... if someone wants to help me by looking that up that would be great). Yes... Anyway.. I hope I didn't confuse you too much. So it is changed every "General Conference" (Which is what?) and Then considered "Scripture"... Do you have to buy a new copy every year? Do they vote on the changes or does the President decide? Who can make changes too it? Can they change what has been put into it before, or only add to it? Thanks, Josh B)

Hey JoshuaK, did you ever read Snow's Post #7 under the thread Intelligent Design? I recommend it! M. I just read it, It was very good, although I don't believe the "II. Creationist Counter-Arguments" section fully explained the arugument agaist evolution. I actually do believe in evolution, in a way I guess. But not completely. I believe God created the original DNA for all life. So I guess I lean toward the "latent library" theory of evolution. The point about DNA is a major point that Snow did not address in "II. Creationist Counter-Arguments" section. However, I agree the Earth is clearly 15 billion years old (or at least older than 6000 years) However, Consider the Cambrian explosion of life 530 million years ago. All these creatures appear to have "evolved" simultaneously. Few if any at all "transional" creatures have been found. If classical evolution is correct there should be thousands and thousands of "half fish half monkey" fossils. Frankly life went from single-celled protozoa to "real" animals in an amount of time that is unexplainable with classical evolution. Also, I don't believe that DNA could have been created "by chance" or through any method of "evolution" I think this is strong evidence of a "creator" Josh B)

That is what I believe. Let me rephrase it. If a prophet teaches anything contrary to the LDS canon (OT, NT, BoM, PoGP, D&C) it is not official LDS doctrine, and not binding on members of the Church. The LDS canon is also referred to as the standard works. They set the standard in matters of doctrine and theology. I do believe it is possible for a prophet to receive revelation changing a practice laid out in the standard works, because I believe the Lord's word is not static but dynamic. In the case of a revelation contradicting or changing something from the standard works, I'd pray and ponder the issue to discern whether the alteration was divinely inspired and approved by God or not. I see, hmmm....If you don't mind me asking. (1) Why do you believe that Joseph Smith's "authority" went from Joseph to Brigham if you believe Brigham was wrong about a doctrinal belief that he claimed was from God? I can't say I'm very knowlegeable about the LDS position vs. the RLDS position. But, why do you believe in the LDS rather then the RLDS or any of the other splinter fractions? What is the major difference between the LDS and the RLDS? (2) The D&C, that is written by the prophets correct? does it change often? or ever? is it considered a "finished work" or is it added to by each prophet? Thanks for your help, Josh B)

I'll grant you it is a rather convoluted theory, but The evidence that the universe is much more than 6000 years old is very, very, strong. This is one of two theories that I know of Which does not condradict either the literal reading of the Bible or the clear scientific facts. I don't believe in "evolution" however, and neither does the author of "The science of God" I think if you look at the facts. (1) The theory of evolution is very weak, it is only accepted because "there is no other (secular) alternitive" (2) However, the evidence that the universe is billions of years old is very strong. I am afriad I cannot explain the theory that clearly....But I think its very reasonable. Josh B) P.S. Umm...what do you mean by "I don't think it matters what it signifuies. The sabbeth stays the same." Desiré? (and isn't the "sabbath" technically on Saturday?) I was under the impression that the Christians changed it from Saturday to Sunday.....

That's not quite what I was saying.... I believe the 6 days were literaly 6 days... However, (using The theory of realitivity) 6 literal days would (from the prespective of the entire universe) been 6 literal days. However, on earth 15 billion years would have passed. Josh B) P.S. I didn't do the math some other guy did (from the "The Science of God")

I'm a little confused prehaps you could clear this up for me, Were you saying that: (1) Prophets can be wrong about doctrine, as long as its not a requirement for salvation or (2) Prophets can be wrong in their personal opinions, but not if they say "Thus saith the Lord" first. I could be wrong (I will double check) but I was under the impression that Brigham Young did present the Adam-God theory in a "Thus saith the Lord" manner.... Thanks for your help, Josh B)

Hey AK, I have a quick question, (1) I was under the impression that "prophets" could not be wrong....(I don't mean they couldn't ever be wrong about anything but about doctrine which comes from God) (2) If you dissagree with the God-Adam theory, Which I believe was first mentioned by Brigham Young. Why do you belong to the LDS as opposed to say the RLDS? No offense intended. :) Josh B)

"'Mod status" I believe means anything he says will be approved by a Moderator before its posted. Its in the rules: "Consequences to these rules could result in the following, and are determined on a case by case/post by post basis. Offender be placed on moderator status for no less than 2 weeks." http://www.ldstalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2331 Josh B)

Much better! Josh B)

It was a surprise........... Josh

FINALLY! I SAY SOMETHING THAT MAKES SENSE TO PEOPLE!... or one person.... You do realize you merely quoted my entire post back to me right? Josh

boo! I respond quickly, and this scares you? Josh B)

Yup, I'm pretty sure...I found it on the internet here http://www.terrystickels.com/seven-trickle-down.html if you want the answer.... Josh B)

Scary? Why did you think I'm scary? (not that I'm saying I'm not scary ) Josh B)

Ah...thanks that clears it all up for me..... Josh B)

Ah....but that dosen't make them right does it? In the cosmic sense God will judge who is right, and who is wrong. But for right now. With all the logic God has given me, I say they're wrong. Josh B) P.S. I'm making a comeback!

Desiré, :) I hope you day gets better :) Josh B) P.S. you said: Did you mean "learn from God"? or Learn from "good"

I wouldn't say you have the worst communication skills on the planet! I know at least one other person who confuses me more Don't post less! (although on an unrelated note I noticed you beat me to "Consultant" ) What were you saying in your earlier post though? Josh B)

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