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Hidden cams in the bed room , then go on vacation. Or a mic in her purse. That will gather what you need.It sounds like it should be easy to get too. this stuff is cheap on ebay. It is horrible what is going on in her head. IMO, leave the kids out of it. They need to see Dad as a strong man "handling" the problem in a protective manor. Not a needy victim . Get in shape dude. or at least be seen trying. Don't ask how I know. There is work all over. You just have to be willing to do it. even though it's not what you hoped for. I watched the same scenario play out with a wealthy high energy couple in our church community. It blew everyone's minds. After the dust settled. She came home. He started acting like a man who wants to be wanted and they are in love again. There is a lot of good info on these pages. No one has suggested you make a change and try your hardest to impress her. Go try to win your girl back man! Then maybe honesty will show up because she feels safe and wanted. p.s. If you catch her red handed,and you BOTH decide to hang on. you must see a counselor to help you forgive. or you will evolve into the offender. It will take quite a while to swallow all this either way it ends up. I sent a good long prayer up for you.

hey! welcome I hope you find some peace in these pages. :)

IMO, there are two kinds. The ones who just arent interested in any sort of effort needed to believe Christ.They rarely ever even DO any religion. Then there are the OTHER ones. The ones who BROKE UP WITH THE RELIGION. They all seem to have a teenager sense of understanding things. They seem to be very Carnel in the way they see how life should be and the expectations they precieve are put on them by the church(Victimized). Many of them are Mormon appologist's to begin with. all because they don't understand the Atonement. The falloowing video clip is why they don't get it.

Giving things to the D.I. is also a great tax write off. This means one can write the value of the items out of thier taxable income. lol. So next time Mom says she will donate your stuff if you don't pick it up. Tell her the time to gather+ gas to deliver doesn't equate to a big enough tax credit . That would be fiscally irresponsable.jk,jk. don't do that you may get grounded. Just pick up your clutter moms work hard enough lol.

My life is different. I was a bad boy for many years. One day I started feeling the same way. I decided to "Get involved" just to see what would happen. It was very tiring and hard to get the ol'spiritual ball rolling. So, I went to testimony meeting. I shared my feeble 4th grade testimony and promised G-d infront of the ward I was going to get involved with the "doings" of service.......... Pandora's box is what I opened.lol. My home teaching became mini spiritual revivals. I bore my testimony every month and watched it grow. within 2 years I was in the Bishopric! WHO ME?! lol. How can a black sheep like me be wothy for that? That's when the rubber hit the road. The things I learned and saw..... WOW! so, Pull up your big boy pants and get busy. quit farting around with kids stuff. time to take the training wheels off JR. It took me 15 years too long to fgure that one out and hate to see another squander thier life doing the same. Good Luck Bro. oh, ya... go to the gym and push like your in a battle for your life. cuz you are.

I wonder what kind of changes in our local communities and eventually Country would happen if we were brave enough to truly get out and share the Gospel with others that do have a faith they currently fallow. It might plant a seed in their hearts, it might clear up some of the crazy lies the local preacher is telling to steer his congregation clear of us, it might just end up helping us all find harmony and like mindedness. I do know that if your not a wacky fanatical that goes to far it can do nothing more than to cool the current environment.

I really wish I could have seen this joining hands you speak of. All I saw and heard was blasting the Mormons for their cultish ways. Scaring all of the Christians in the valley into throwing away their votes on someone who has no chance of winning. Leaving us with King Obama running ramped through the Constitution:disclaimer:. Way to go Boy's and girl's! You really showed us who's Church is the best. The continuous degrading of our society just got a fast forward this election do to insecurity and fear mongering and outright lies. The continued degrading is due to good men doing nothing being distracted by television shows and money making. The devil has us fighting amongst ourselves instead of fighting him. I call all listening to mend this problem. Not resign your efforts to complacency and shrugging off your duties in the spirit that "it's happening whether I want it to or not."

This has been weighing on my heart for some time. I love this Country and I love people. one of my favorite secret things to do when in public(honey do's at Walmart). Is to look people in the eyes and show them love with an unwarranted smile. I strike up conversations with strangers(at appropriate moments) and try to interject positive outlook feed back on the usually glum info the tell me. Why is it that almost EVERY stranger I talk too spills a sad story out to me? Morally- It is slipping fast. our children are clueless. TV/Games are so corrupt. I listen and watch me teen agers FB page and hear them chatter in the halls after school. There is a huge distinct line between the children taught by Christians who are interactive with their kids and the kids who are raised by parents who love their own entertainment and thrills more than they value consecrated parenting. Politically- I see Gigantic gap in the relationship between LDS people and the rest of the Christian people. They have been taught that we are as wacky as the scientologist's and other wacko's. I believe that is the main factor in Romney losing. The Preachers and Pastor's in our area made it crystal clear that we ARE NOT Christian's. In fact they taught people that LDS people Mock Jesus and the Atonement by Believing that only through the right WORK will Christ's offer of Grace be granted to enter heaven. That scares a lot of people with it's twisted version of the truth. I have heard so many crazy versions of why we are an evil man made religious cult that should NEVER be in charge of this Nation. I blame US for this mess(Good men doing nothing). How many of us actually know the people in our subdivision well enough to be turning they're names over to the missionaries?...........Crickets Chirping............. YES I can make a difference, It starts with some dude in walmart who has Tattoo's from his neck to his knuckles. It start's with a dinner table and good food with that loud obnoxious family down the street who like to drink and work on cars. Last but not least It start's with a BBQ with the Faithfull Nazarenes down the road who won't let their kids play with the scary Mormon kids..........You know who you are to others? Yes? well go fix it. WE are the answer. Not some slick politician who just happens to share the same belief system that we do. People are scared to death of us. If you heard the talk that happens when you are not near you would be driven to teach the gospel because you would want to fight the lies Satan is spreading about CHRIST's TRUE GOSPEL. He is using ignorance to do it. Because he knows you are too chicken to stick up for CHRIST when it really counts. I don't know if any of you are aware of just how massive and convincing this anti-Mormon campaign really is. I actually know of two preachers here in Idaho who came together with a group of preachers during the presidential campaign to discuss what they could do to stop the Mormon's from unleashing their scary Mormon agenda on the world when Romney gains the most powerful seat in the world...so that's my lil rant. coming from a man who feels so small and week when he looks at the problems of the world and shutters, but feels useful and mighty when he get's off his rump and out of his comfort zone and reaches out and introduces people like the for mentioned to CHRIST's TRUTH. I hope I didn't let my ADD stray to far off the path.hahaha! PTL!!!

lol,You need to train like a Zulu! jk,jk.

IMO being a control freak is a lot worse offense. Using ultimatum manipulation is sick. It shows you are full of pride and arogance. There are scriptural standards we all are well aware of. GOD set those for us. It should be good enough for you with out building a petty list for another person to be subject too. Who do you think you are? Maybe your insecurity and the tendancies to manipulate will bring out strange addictive impulse issues in your spouse he/she would otherwise had never experianced.

IF I have seen angels and demons having a perfect knowlage of heaven and hell's existance. Does that mean I am damned if I don't fully repent before I die? Not just sent to a lesser Kingdom. As I have lived a good life doing good any worshiping GOD and repenting along the way but making mistakes.

I posted a reply from my phone yesterday but it didn't upload. bummer .Take it or leave it. But my heart goes out to you because I don't feel you realize what kind of trouble you are up against. I am NOT judgeing you. I am merely spilling out my experiance in hopes you can gleem some usefull tools from my success in fixing myself and my marriage. So, in short I didn't settle for less. I realized that my desire and artifitially pumped up labido was causing a lot of undo stress in our marriage. I changed my mind about what IS important. Having a healthy sexual desire in a relationship where my wife is completely impotent to any desire would counter intuitive. Hanging on to a healthy desire is selfish at that point. That is the point I was trying to convea . If your not willing to admit that it is a selfish endevor regardless of the damage in trust and expectations you have repeativly violated then you are not ready for much more than more counseling. I think( just my opinion)your campaign to win over her mom and say things like" deserve to be home" are typical of guys who don't get it yet. example: I was kicked out of my house due to my addiction. I was MAD! that I couldn't be in my own home. I NEVER showed any physical aggression toward her. I wasn't even a yeller. I had no where to go and she needed child care while she was gone at work. so I lived in my garage at night in the winter and had to leave all day untill needed. That was torcher. but she didn't calm down untill I shut up and let go and excepted that I had no right to anything anymore. Complete submission to her will was the only way she was able to even start to contemplate trust again. I had to let her go for her to want to come back. That my friend is scary. Identify your dirty thought triggers. mine were a couple things. rejection(a half hug when I was wanting a squeeze),being told no I'm not in the mood after she flirted with me and it's been weeks,When IT did happen it was purely a utility duty for her,covering herself when I entered the bedroom,it got to the point even her quickly turning her eye's away when I gazed too long.All this out of fear I would persue sex if given a signal it was ok. (keep in mind this is years of my crazy expectations pilling on top of a mom who has NO desire and even some discomfort during it. ). The rejection started a spiral of resentment and passive aggressive thought. which if I wasn't paying attention, turned into a couple excitment filled,passive aggressive justifications,seeking to saticfy my right to gratification with a computor. (How pathetic is that?!)So I opted out of that game. Sorry this reply doesn't flow well. I am in and out of my office working . No time for grammer or spelling.lol. BTW. IMO Porn is the only plague that hurts God. It's the only transmitable plague that can RIP his children from his grasp! all other plagues just send us home to him early.

Hey, just checking in. So, asking God to take my sexual desire is exactly what I asked him to do. I do see something wrong with "having a healthy sexual desire" if your spouse has NONE. desire is an attitude of entittlement mixed with anatomy. The physical can be dumbed down a lot with the right attitude. Let's face it. If your one to have the NEED to saticefy your desire after 1 1/2 months of rejection from the impotent wife. It will ware you down if you don't stay on top of it 24/7, especially if the relationship is highly loving and stable. It is better that God help you have no desire at all ,than you carry one with a loaded gun. If she comes to you after the desire is gone. You will be able to recipicate her affection. but the "desire" to start it is not present. Now, every once in a while I will get lazy on my praying and reading, this slacks me off a bit and I can feel sexual desire creeping back in. So I step it up a bit with a little extra effort and It passes easily. The funny thing is . She comes to me a lot more than if I go to her now. Sure she comes to me for love afirmation or just being generous with me out of realization of her long time impotence. But, there is enough between us now we are for the most part,happy. BTW the thought of Porn makes me Ill now. just typing those words did. I realy wish the best for you. This is the recipie that helps me. take it or leave it.

Good for you! :) You seem to be on the right track. I just wanted to be as real as possable with you brother. So, Mourning the death of your sexual desire will be a huge game changer. Offering it up as a sacrifice to God is how I did it. He rewarded me greatly for it and so did my super hot wife with absolutely NO labido(what a confusing time that was). Our relationship is pure love and understanding. So much deeper than the super ficsial physical relationship we had. So you know our physical relationship still happens,now and then. But the time in between isn't spent with aingst and anxiety on my part. It's no big deal anymore. FWEEEW! I'm FREE ! In Feb it will be our 17 year Anniversary. only 3 of that has been spent free from the scourge of believing I am entitled to her and my sexuallity is a right. I finally have found Christ, because I gave my self to Him. Good luck man P.S. don't think it didn't come with about 2 years of crying and pleading to GOD every other night to take it away from me. He answered me with great spiritual reward.

Hey man, Your post seems a bit narcissistic. You still seem to be selfish you have just changed angles. I too share a past with that scourge. It's gone now. I will tell you a lil bout me and you can decide for your self. for years I was wrapped up in Porn and vanity. After our 1st child my wifes sex drive vanished. I mean ALL gone. I did similar things. I Narcissistically manipulated her into believing she owed me chances after chances. we were on the rocks so bad it was a hostile room mate situation. 9 years of that. all the while I would go through the cycle of Try and fail. She hated me and loved me all at once because outside of the filthy bedroom situation I created for us I was a great,sweet thoughtfull guy. A few years back I ended up befriending a Nazerine guy who's wife had a surgery that rendered her completely un able to have sex with out excruciating pain. He was suffering the throngs of never having intimacy again. About a 1 1/2 yr of knowing him he was getting better at staying morally clean and not "NEEDING" physical touch. We talked a lot about this stuff as I desperately needed to hear it. He said he had realized that our modern coulter had taught him it was a right to use her body=FALSE! he automatically turned to the computer and attention of other women when that right was not available out of justification= FALSE! After almost loosing her he did something that changed the game. He realized that he was a victim of a cultural lie, So to meet his wife where she was at he "killed his sex drive mentally" he realized his desire to be touched and sex drive was a FALSE GOD in his mind. He kicked it out and "MORNED IT'S DEATH" (MENTALLY) it took a while but it worked. I too have taken this approach to my libido and It takes a while but it works! Now I will tell you this. It's like a goat head plant. It will regerminate depending on your lifes weather. But it is easier and easier to kill your desires every time you have to do it. As for your wife? Respect her decision with out malice or contention. You mister have ripped from her the very thing a woman fantasizes about from child hood. a beautiful wedding with prince charming and happily ever after is now a lie to her. She got a beautiful wedding with a freak who thinks with his genitals. This kind of screw up is what lead my wifes friend to remarrying an non member and becoming non denominational Christian! She was a scorned woman who turned her back on the whole fiascle because her 1st husband couldn't pull himself together. I don't think she owes you any respect or to come back. You owe it to your self and your child and GOD to get your act together man! That kid NEEDS a Dad who has his head on straight no matter how your marriage end or ends up. Leave her alone, you broke it. It's done, just paper work to do now. Chances seem gone. You do you and HOPE she lets you interact with that little girl. Good luck on your fight with that lie you have been believing.

I cut and paste the fallowing from an introduction on another forum. I'm hoping a new friend recognizes it and says hi . Just a little about me and my expectations. I have been looking for an online LDS community I can trust. I have accidentaly joined a couple anti LDS communities. It was a suprise when I was attacked after my 2nd post.lol. So, am I safe for the most part? About me. I grew up in and out of activity in the church. I was indoctrinated by my mother with strong anti authority issues(wich the real world whipped right out of me) hahaha! I missed my mission years due to a nasty lil drug addiction not to mention the immorality that came with it. I lived a fast rough life as a young man. The day I fell in love with my live in girl friend . for the first time in my life . The Church became the only way I could honor her equal to the level I loved her. So, I began my journey home. It took years and mistakes. I have arived! I arived with a great wife and 3 kids,Cieled and active! hallelujah! I will have a lot of questions. I am not well versed in the scriptures anymore. well.... I never really was. I have a horrible memory( gee. I wonder why). so please be patient with me. Now, on that note. Lately I have had some extremely profound experiances(spiritually). I have questions! I also have a lot of non member slightly anti Mormon friends. Mostly spoon fed lies from thier Preachers. That has led me to look to a Forum with intellegent people who KNOW the letter of GODS law. I have questions.lol so, I'll see youy in the pages to follow. 4's !