HoplessMarriageReject

My older brother committed suicide 9 years ago. I wonder if he regrets his decision, me and the rest of the family sure do. And if she treats you like crap, you have two reasonable options: 1, try your best to repair the relationship and see if she is willing to do her part as well and if not, 2. just leave her. I find that I am treated much better by non-LDS women then by LDS women, no need to put up with her crap.

Don't divorce your husband over porn.

How do you know they aren't eating healthy and being active????? Again, there is soooooo much more in play than just diet and lifestyle. (hormones, genetics, insulin resistence, side effects of medications to name a few).

Why? Why can't they get married immediately after a civil ceremony like they do in the United Kingdom?

I am saying they are human and make errors like everyone else.

Based on god-given common sense and intelligence.

Actually they do pressure. They are taught and encouraged by their YW and RS leaders to date RMs as a means to getting men on mission. It was like that in my pre-missionary days. There is a problem in the church with women not being willing to date or commit to men who didn't serve missions. I've run into this quite a bit.

No, its about image for the church. Epilepsy and blindness are much different.

But here is the thing. This policy, ISN"T inspired of the Lord. For some, they can lose the weight, for others, nothing short of dangerous diets and gastric bypass works. Do you have any idea how little diet and exercise affects the BMI of these medically obese people compared to their hormonal factors? Sister, there is alot more in play than simply eat right and exercise, a TON at play. Hypothyroidism is a prime example. It runs in my family. My great grandmother had it and was obese at a time when you almost never saw any obese people around. Skinny people (who like to throw out their assumptions they pass off as truth) have no concept or inkling of what is involved.

So you are pretty much saying that only slimmer people are worthy to serve and those with medical conditions that likely cause their obesity, something that has no bearing on their ability to serve rules them out as worthy or meeting this standard? What a joke. This post just reeks of ignorance. Do you know how many people are overweight and not by a little yet perform physically as well as their skinny counterparts? You are essentually stating that her son isn't of high enough quality to serve. How is he physically unfit if his doctor cleared him?

It IS appropriate in this situation. You need to get over yourself. I see nothing wrong with how they have expressed their pain and frustration How are you to judge Skippy? I don't always agree with the leaders. In fact, knowing they are human I am aware that they make mistakes and errors. No sense in supporting something you feel is wrong. This isn't some faith-promoting experience that encourages growth Skippy.

Yes, and aside from the stigma of bad assumptions from people assuming why you are obese, they not being allowed to serve a mission will now find it hard to get a date because women in the church are taught to only date RMs (as a means to pressure the men to go on missions). Some or many women wouldn't date a non-RM. So now this poor guy has to deal with this.

Skippy, I think it is you that is being judgmental. I don't blame her one bit for how she feels. That policy is pure nonsense in opinion, it is simply about image. And who are you to say that her son doesn't meet the standards to serve a mission? So are you now saying that those with medical conditions (which may be causing their obesity) that have no affect on their ability to serve aren't meeting the standards? This is ridiculous. Actually, I'll join her in judging these new set criteria by the church for missionary service. I think they are about image and I think they are wrong and discriminatory. I think they reflect an attitude of ignorance (one that you share with them BTW) and will drive some away from the church eventually.

How judgmental of you to say that. Also, some people struggle with obesity due to genetic and hormonal factors (hypothyroidism, goiters, Hashimoto's, Cushings, etc), lead very active lives and eat healthy, yet are still obese! Have you not considered that?

No, but if it occurred before the relationship and he has repented of it, then it is between him and God. He can then forsake that sin, leave it in the past and move on, without any need to tell her.