bluesaphires_n_diamonds

I happen to LOVE Rosie and ALL her view's and comments on "The View" She tell's it like it is!!!! You go girl!! :)

Did you know that Orin Hatch own's part of the pharmacatical company who is in favor of this stem cell research???? HUMMMMM Itn't it maybe out for the money??????

What do you think of Orin Hatch's position on Stem Cell Research??????

Oh my goodness YOU think Elizabeth is the only level headed person on "The View"?? Holy Hannah you've got to be kidding?? lol... Rosie,Joy and Barbra rock!!!!!! :)

I have a question the LDS church say's we should not have any other gods before us,If thats the case why are we told that in the next life we can be god's and goddesses???????

I've suffered 3 miscarriages...Each one was difficult especially the pregnancy where I was the furtherst along I lost 1 @ 2 months,1@ 2 1/2 months and 1 @ 4 months all of my miscarriages were difficult one's. For me it took alot of time..I was finally able to get pregnant and carry my son to full term,he's now a healthy,strong young man whom we are very proud of that was 23 years ago and with the help of my OBGYN Dr's carried him to term but it also took me 8 long years of fertility drugs,but he's certinally been a blessing to us....Morn your loss,no one can tell you that the hurt will go away compleatly cause for me it never has,you suffered a loss,go ahead and grieve your loss,it just takes time....And sometimes talking to people who have been in the same situation can be more understanding..My prayer's are with you..Bluesaphires_n_diamonds. :)

The father has every right to be notified of a impending adoption or intrest in one! As my son and his ex-g/f was involved in a situation concerning something kinda simular to this situation but the ex-g/f's parents wanted these two kids to give the baby up for adoption my son the father was totally against it...Luckly for us both the kids at the time (age 16) decieded to keep the baby they never married each other but they BOTH RAISE his precious little girl she's now 6 yrs old,and the joy of all our live's both my son and his ex-g/f were raised in the LDS church and come from good parents... It's very hard to know just how to advise our children in situation's like this but for us the decision for them to keep and raise my precious little granddaughter is the joy of our lives. I wish you much luck with you and your family!! Bluesaphires_n_diamonds :)

Mrs.S: First of all Iam sorry that you took offence to my expression of the word "honey" in my last comment to you since that is a word I use often. Further more HOW DARE YOU COMMENT AND EVEN QUESTION "IF' IAM TELLING YOU THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED IN OUR CASE TO MY SON AND HIS EX-G/F... I take offence to your comment,I certinally am NOT a lier!!! my GOODNESS MRS. S LIGHTEN UP!!!!!!!!!! Bluesaphires_n_diamonds. For Your Information the AGENCY I am referring to is the agency Father has freely given to ALL OF HIS CHILDREN. As in: Your son and the Mother of his child have the agency to choose what they will or will not do. Such as break the law of chastity, which they freely did. The CHURCH will never take away anothers agency. Thus you saying that they were forcing your son and the girlfriend is in error. People, Human Beings, Natural Man were doing the forcing. Mrs.S: I also learned at a very early age to NOT LIE isnt that what OUR(LDS) church teach?? And my parent's also taught us that. Further more I dont mind the comments by everyone pro and con thats why the question was posted in the first place to get other's opinion's. I was also under the impression that the member's of our church were NOT supposed to be MEAN OR NASTY(unlike you),at least thats what the church had taught me and also my parents in my humble opinion a person can get their point across without insulting other people or member's of the LDS faith!! Any way by the way this comment that follow's my comment to you is from my sister "Red Ruby" whom just so happen's to be my younger sister she posted the original question at my request as her and I were talking about this issue. Unfortunatly due to the remarks and unfriendly comments she asked them(ppl in charge of this forum) to remove her from this forum. Now unfortunatly because of the responce she recieved from people like you I probably wont ever be able to convert her back into the LDS faith but dont get me wrong that now isnt the only reason why I dont think that will ever happen... Thank-you Bluesaphires_n_diamonds.

Mrs.S: First of all Iam sorry that you took offence to my expression of the word "honey" in my last comment to you since that is a word I use often. Further more HOW DARE YOU COMMENT AND EVEN QUESTION "IF' IAM TELLING YOU THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED IN OUR CASE TO MY SON AND HIS EX-G/F... I take offence to your comment,I certinally am NOT a lier!!! my GOODNESS MRS. S LIGHTEN UP!!!!!!!!!! Bluesaphires_n_diamonds. For Your Information the AGENCY I am referring to is the agency Father has freely given to ALL OF HIS CHILDREN. As in: Your son and the Mother of his child have the agency to choose what they will or will not do. Such as break the law of chastity, which they freely did. The CHURCH will never take away anothers agency. Thus you saying that they were forcing your son and the girlfriend is in error. People, Human Beings, Natural Man were doing the forcing.

Bizabra: YES the LDS Church DOES AND DID TRY to put MUCH pressure on my son and his ex-g/f to give their baby up for adoption along with the ex g/f's parents and their bishop,thank goodness OUR LDS Bishop understood my son's position on this issue and he respected my son's feeling's and applied NO pressure what so ever!!!! And WE as a family appreciated that very much....Please dont try and patronize me by saying that the path to "HECK" is paved with good intention's...All Iam saying is that in the case of our family and "MY" Granddaughter the decision that was made to keep her and NOT give into the pressure's put upon these two young kids at the time was the RIGHT CHOICE FOR THEM AND MY GRANDDAUGHTER AND OUR FAMILY!! Bluesaphires_n_diamonds..aka "J" :)

Hummmm so if there's no debate on this subject where you live where's that? Bluesaphires_n_diamonds

Mrs.S: Iam sorry to disappoint you but in the case of my son and his ex-g/f/s situation YES they most certinally DID TRY!!!! I have the paper work at my home in UT to back me up...Honey I'am sorry to say but in OUR case YES THE CHURCH AND THE AGENCY'S did try to do exactly that!! Also the person who started this tread "Red ruby" is my younger sister by 2 yr's after her and I were talking we decieded to post this question to see if the LDS church had advised anyone else the way the LDS Family Social Service's tryed to do to my son and his ex-g/f.

I said it before and I say it again, redruby is a troll - LDS do NOT FORCE their beliefs, doctrines, or anything else on another human being. Mrs.S: I'am sorry but YES the LDS church does force (or at least they TRY) we expirenced this as a family when my son's ex-g/f was pregnant with the baby at age 16yr's both my son and his ex-g/f had both just barely turned 16 when they found out she was pregnant with my granddaughter. On the ex-g/f's parents request we(my son and I ) attended a meeting in Provo,Ut up on the BYU campus at LDS Family Social Service's at the time since my son was a minor we were advised by our attorney to NOT let my son go into that meeting by himself..As our attorney predicted the first thing that was asked was for my son to come into the office and talk with the gentleman by himself,so pressure could be placed on my son to give into what the church was advising young unwed teen parents...I have the LDS church's policy paper that the gentleman gave to us this day!!!! Needless to say they(the church's) policy is to give up that child to a LDS family,so they can have the many blessings of having that child sealed to them,have the LDS loving family,ect....Needless to say my son and his ex-g/f refused to give the baby up for adoption,that was 6 almost 7 yr's ago,and "WE" are all so lucky to have this precious little girl in our live's,she's the light of my eye's and our entire family's!!! My son is a excellent Dad as is her Mom a excellent mother..She couldnt of asked for any more loving,caring parents even though my son and his ex-g/f never married each other,my son supports his daughter,pay's child support and love's her with all his heart,and is very involved in his little girl's life!! So YES I just wanted you to know that it's been "OUR" experence that the LDS Church did TRY and put pressure on my son and his ex-g/f....Bluesaphires_n_diamonds..aka "J" :) I said it before and I say it again, redruby is a troll - LDS do NOT FORCE their beliefs, doctrines, or anything else on another human being. Mrs S: Please check out my post on #49 it's directed to your comment above as to the LDS church's so called approach of NOT putting pressure on young unwed teen's whom become pregnant at a early age,as to the Church's Policy on this. Read my post and then maybe you'll understand how and why I feel the way I do...Bluesaphires_n_diamonds..aka "J"