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    anatess2
    Tobeloved got a reaction from anatess2 in Evangelical with a question   
    Thank you so much for taking the time to respond. It is appreciated.
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    Tobeloved reacted to Just_A_Guy in Evangelical with a question   
    What I THINK Tobeloved is saying, is that Jesus is the sole instrument of salvation.  We get baptized because He asks us to; but the rite has no mystical power independently of Christ--it derives its power from the fact that it is a divine commandment.
    I can agree with that; I think the disagreement is that Mormons teach that Jesus requires **everyone** to get baptized via proper authority; whereas Tobeloved suggests that Jesus will save even an unbaptized person and that pretty much anyone who believes in Jesus has inherent authority to baptize.
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    Tobeloved
    Tobeloved reacted to zil in Evangelical with a question   
    Thank you!  That's a reading of things I had not seen, and makes a lot of sense, and shows whopping tons of common ground.  (I love it when someone opens my eyes to increased understanding.)
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    Tobeloved
    Tobeloved reacted to estradling75 in Evangelical with a question   
    Thread derailment is a common occurrence... But fair enough.
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    Tobeloved reacted to Just_A_Guy in Evangelical with a question   
    To be fair, the context of John 3:5 is a little ambiguous--the "born of water" mentioned in verse 5 could be a response to Nicodemus' referring to physical birth in the previous verse.  Under this reading, Jesus is saying "unless you are born not only in body, but also in spirit, you cannot inherit the kingdom of God".
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    LeSellers
    Tobeloved got a reaction from LeSellers in Evangelical with a question   
    Actually, I forgot about that verse.  You are right Lehi, I stand corrected.  I have no problem admitting when I am wrong.
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    LeSellers
    Tobeloved got a reaction from LeSellers in Evangelical with a question   
    Actually, I forgot about that verse.  You are right Lehi, I stand corrected.  I have no problem admitting when I am wrong.
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    LeSellers
    Tobeloved got a reaction from LeSellers in Evangelical with a question   
    Actually, I forgot about that verse.  You are right Lehi, I stand corrected.  I have no problem admitting when I am wrong.
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    LeSellers
    Tobeloved got a reaction from LeSellers in Evangelical with a question   
    Actually, I forgot about that verse.  You are right Lehi, I stand corrected.  I have no problem admitting when I am wrong.
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    LeSellers
    Tobeloved got a reaction from LeSellers in Evangelical with a question   
    Actually, I forgot about that verse.  You are right Lehi, I stand corrected.  I have no problem admitting when I am wrong.
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    LeSellers
    Tobeloved got a reaction from LeSellers in Evangelical with a question   
    Actually, I forgot about that verse.  You are right Lehi, I stand corrected.  I have no problem admitting when I am wrong.
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    LeSellers
    Tobeloved got a reaction from LeSellers in Evangelical with a question   
    Actually, I forgot about that verse.  You are right Lehi, I stand corrected.  I have no problem admitting when I am wrong.
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    LeSellers
    Tobeloved got a reaction from LeSellers in Evangelical with a question   
    Actually, I forgot about that verse.  You are right Lehi, I stand corrected.  I have no problem admitting when I am wrong.
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    tesuji
    Tobeloved got a reaction from tesuji in Evangelical with a question   
    Ok.  They are two different things, but it's good that I know how the Mormon church views it.  That's what I am here for.