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Should "Praise to the Man" stay in the new hymnal?
clbent04 replied to dsnell's topic in LDS Gospel Discussion
Nor do I go to many wine and cheese tastings mingling about -
Should "Praise to the Man" stay in the new hymnal?
clbent04 replied to dsnell's topic in LDS Gospel Discussion
Yeah that one I hear once in a blue moon. “Shirk” is definely the more unusual verb -
Should "Praise to the Man" stay in the new hymnal?
clbent04 replied to dsnell's topic in LDS Gospel Discussion
You echo a lot of my own thoughts about that hymn. It's not just the lyrics that bother me, it's the melody. Ohhhhhhh that melody. Scratching it entirely is fine with me, but that's just my opinion. I support whatever Church leadership decides. Lol. Yes and yes. We must have similar brains. Agreed. Who says "mingling" these days anyways? There's a lot of outdated language in our current hymnal, which is why I think the Church is spot on to spruce it up a bit. Similar to the hymn "Put Your Shoulder to the Wheel." 100 points and a raised eyebrow to anyone who has used the word "shirk" in a normal conversation. -
Should "Praise to the Man" stay in the new hymnal?
clbent04 replied to dsnell's topic in LDS Gospel Discussion
No. Please remove "Praise to the Man" and "Put Your Shoulder to the Wheel." -
Solid principles.
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YES
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Well said. It may be more about strategy. I can buy into that. What exactly do you mean the Lord has a timetable to keep? Are you saying the Lord is bound to a set time table in the decisions He makes?
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Still, I’m rooting for “American Testament of Jesus Christ.”
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I read it on this thread shortly after I had posted it
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No substitute shortcut was given? We are strictly to say I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints? I like this. Saying I'm a Mormon has always bothered me since it's misrepresentative. This is why it's also my opinion that the Church should change the name "Book of Mormon." It's not Mormon's book. It's much more than that. And the naming of Book of Mormon led to the nickname Mormon in the first place...
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Maybe I was channeling my inner prophetic abilities when I wrote this post over a year ago.
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Just came across a news article about that
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Makes perfect sense. That’s creative making our time on this website the new “third hour.” I like that. Thanks
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I read somewhere that mormonhub.com changed it’s name to thirdhour.org because some of the public thought the former address meant it was a site to find Mormon husbands and hookups. Is that true? If not, why the name change? And what does third hour even mean? I’m sure this was already addressed somewhere else, but I haven’t been able to find it.
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Well there goes running the tables!
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Well, in the crazy alternate universe where the LDS Church actually condoned virtual church services, I don’t think it’s out of reach to bless virtual bread and water, and consume it with your avatar. All things are possible through Christ (that is, of course, assuming the Lord willed it to be).
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Accepting this theory would at least allow me to accept God is never changing, and neither is God’s threshold for determining when to unleash His wrath. Our world is corrupt, but at least for the most part we try and safeguard children (in the US at least — not too familiar with some of the more hostile areas in the world like certain counties in Africa). In my mind, 1 of 2 things must be true: 1. America today is overall more righteous than the nations God destroyed in the New Testament 2. God’s level of patience regarding holding back His wrath in the sight of sin has changed over time. And I don’t accept that the multiple accounts within the Bible detailing God’s wrath can simply be chalked up to bad translations or cultural differences in describing events. I really believe God unleashed His wrath. My conservative side wants to accept #1 as the answer, but @mikbone has some good thoughts supporting #2. If anything, I think it’s absoluetly correct to say we truly don’t understand how Jesus Christ is who He is, and what the process is to achieving perfection. And what does achieving perfection really mean? Aligning your will to God in all things? Ok. Well, what exactly does that mean? We can only comprehend so much. We only have but a small glimpse and limited understanding into these things.
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Has anyone else seen this? Virtual church services are becoming more and more popular. Ever since I’ve seen this video, I picture all of us on this Third Hour website as part of a similiar virtual congregation. Maybe in the future the LDS church will want team up with the Third Hour website to try piloting virtual LDS church?! I imagine the Church would call @Vort to be virtual bishop, @CV75 to be 1st counselor, @NeuroTypical to be 2nd counselor, @zil to be Relief Society President, and @Anddenex to be Elder’s Quorum President. Here’s more on the Robloxian church if anyone is interested. Pastor Daniel is doing some cool things. And he’s just a teen! https://www.faithandleadership.com/teens-online-church-draws-young-people-around-world
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In that case, I think it’s this world being subjected to different levels of strictness that is throwing me off. Were our ancestors really that much more unruly than post-Law of Moses generations? In my mind, man is man. We’ve been committing the same sins since the beginning of time.
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That is an interesting thought. I was thinking the one dishing out the wrath was the Father not the Son, although I think some of the Old Testament examples do reference Jehovah. I know they work in unison, so it shouldn’t matter whoever carries out the wrath, right? But if God the Father is omnipotent, shouldn’t his patience for us sinning remain consistent and unchanged? Wouldn’t he have foreseen how Jesus’ mortal existence was going to pan out, and have considered that from the get go? Also, something else that eludes me to God changing His patience level is that worlds without number have been created. Were we the first in helping the Lord develop His patience? You often hear that God is consistent and unchanging, but I’m not sure those classifications are strictly true. I would think they are. In my mind I reason that it must be mankind that changed, not God. It must be the world really was more wicked back then. But then I consider how corrupt our current world is and I continue going in circles. I mean, honestly, our current world is supposed to be more righteous overall than it was back then?
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Does the Lord have a higher degree of patience now than he did back in Old Testament times when it comes to holding back his wrath in the sight of sin? In the Old Testament, certain stories describe how sinful nations angered the Lord enough for Him to destroy them completely. Were those nations really more wicked than what we see today? Here are a couple of stories from the OT where the Lord destroyed people for sinning or taking up arms against the righteous. 1. Leviticus 10 - Sons of Aaron, Nathan and Abihu, slain by fire for going off course offering the Lord “strange fire.” 2. Joshua 2, 6 - City of Jericho destroyed except for Rahab and her household. 3. Joshua 7 - The Lord curses the people of Israel for taking spoil. The family responsible is stoned. 4. 2 Kings 1 - Elijah calls down fire from Heaven to consume soldiers. 5. 2 Kings 19 - An angel slays 185,000 people in defense of the righteous.
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Results are as of 11/25/2018. Top five currently favored draft picks are highlighted below based on activity over the past two days. Likes to Posts Ratio 11-25-18.xlsx
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Draft picks are now closed. FANTASY-FOOTBALL THIRD HOUR has officially begun.
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Yes, exactly. None of us are excluded from being about to develop the spiritual gift of charity. I can develop charity if I am willing to let the Lord work with and through me. These last few years I continue having the same thought that seems to be impressing itself upon me more and more. There is strong a correlation between having charity and making a meaningful difference in someone’s life. Good point. It’s really the light of Christ that moves our hearts and elevates us to these higher levels of selflessness and sacrifice, nothing we can do on our own as natural man. Yes, excellent point. I feel like you really get what I’m trying to say. Completely agree with you that there is so much work to be done, and the Lord will put us to work when we are ready and willing. And the work that needs to be done isn’t just handing out Book of Mormons. It’s not just doing an occasional good deed for someone in need with no long-term commitment to their well being. Don’t get me wrong, sometimes that one simple act of service really does make a difference especially when someone in need is at an inflection point in their life. They hit a fork in the road and can either go left or right and sometimes just need a small nudge to get them going in the best direction for their well being. And like you quoted, the field is ready to harvest with so many opportunities to be ministering angels! Both directly and indirectly related to sharing the gospel. But then again, if sharing the gospel simply comes down to bringing others closer to Christ, then even just being a good friend helps form the basis for that.