truthseaker

Thats so cool, I'll have to read the JST and check it out

He said 'before this generation passes away' that generation is long gone. I've read a lot of the arguments for interpretation on this scripture (and the many others like it, those are just the two I know off the top of my head) meaning thousands of years in the future vs what it actually says. To each their own, I personally take it for what it says

Even Jesus himself made failed prophecies, so if the saviour himself can be wrong about something then surely we must give the prophets some wiggle room! “Then they will see the Son of Man coming in clouds with great power and glory. And then He will send forth the angels, and will gather together His elect from the four winds, from the farthest end of the earth to the farthest end of heaven. Now learn the parable from the fig tree: when its branch has already become tender and puts forth its leaves, you know that summer is near. Even so, you too, when you see these things happening, recognize that He is near, right at the door. Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place…“ (Mark 13:26-30) “For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and will then repay every man according to his deeds. Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.“ (Matthew 16: 27, 28)

Thank you so much, sorry for all the questions, they must seem pretty basic to you guys

So there is the Book of Mormon (translated from Golden plates) which is part of the unsealed portion? Then there are the Book of Lehi (unsealed) that were lost and not translated again (why not?) and there is also a sealed portion that humans don't have access too, is that right?

@person0 forgive another ignorant question but what is the 'unsealed portion'?

Thanks I will definitely do that

Thanks, but what is the opinion of all churches that have started since the LDS church? Does the LDS church hold the same view on them? My christian church I grew up in didn't have creeds and wasn't corrupt at all. Its just a massive statement to say 'this is the only true church on the earth', Im not saying I won't look at the evidence for it, of course I will, I just didn't realise that was the position of the LDS church, so I guess I'm kinda shocked by it.

I didn't realise this was the LDS view, thanks for the clarification. As you can appreciate it is a very big statement to make, here's to hoping the LDS church can back up their claim. I will certainly look into it.

I dont understand this statement, why do all the members say this so often, its as if they believe the LDS church is more true than other churches. Is that true?

Met my bishop today (in my pants!) and he was awesome, the pants police (he's the ward's mission leader) even apologised to me (after the bishop spoke to him but still an apology none the less). So just for the record pants are fine in church - well in the ward I go to at least.

That is interesting isn't it. A lot of different faiths use the same proof texts to explain totally different beliefs.

Yes its an Aussie term! It means calm down and stop overthinking things. Of course I'm not surprised there is a dress code, its church, you should look nice. I don't why you would get that impression its certainly way off the mark, but the dress code should be clear as to what it is, and some random dude I've never met certainly is not the 'dress code enforcer', I didn't rock up to church underdressed, I didn't rock up immodest, I didn't rock up looking homeless. Church is tomorrow, I'm wearing pants and going to talk to the bishop. Old mate pants police can bite me.

Seriously? That's insane, I can just picture your husbands face. What the.....

It does seem that way doesn't it

Just our local Christian Church, not AOG but similar

I was taught that it was the father speaking in the OT, the world was created through Jesus (in the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God etc all things were created through him without him nothing was made) so Jesus was always there (eternal like God) but Jesus didn't interact with the Human race until being born of the virgin Mary.

@VortSo far I've found a lot of things different, the Book of Mormon itself is different, most christian church just use the bible. Families can be forever in heaven is different. There are lots of things different. Different is not bad, its just different. And when you are new to it like me different sometimes needs some further explanation.

@VortI didn't say anything at all bothered me (I don't know where you got that impression from?). This is different from what I was taught growing up as a christian so I'm just trying to understand it. Yes I was taught Jesus is part of the trinity and therefore God, but I was taught that the God of the Old Testament is God the Father not Jesus. So this is very different take on it, and also a very new viewpoint to me so I was hoping for some further information to read about it.

Ok so forgive me for sounding uneducated but I was reading this article and hoping you can give me some more information to read on the subject. I have noticed a lot of LDS beliefs are very different from other churches, I think this might be another one. https://mormonhub.com/blog/faith/scripture/old-testament/old-testament-god-disturbs-you/ Any further insight/evidence on this teaching would be highly appreciated. Thank you

I'm angry that some dude I don't know told me what to wear, I don't understand why you need extra information from me to help you understand that. I'm not refusing you anything, I actually think this whole conversation is kind of ridiculous, I just wanted to know if anyone knew what the church's offical standpoint on dress code for church attendance was. Seems its a little muddy. And FYI, I'm not offended by anything said by you or anyone else on this website. Its just the internet people, calm your farm

really, you think I'm the one making this thread 6 pages long? I'm responding to comments made, responding to others is not extreme, its polite

My pants were loose fitting dress pants, very smart and not revealing at all. This is the first thing this man has ever said to me. That's a really good idea, I think I will go and speak to the bishop and tell him I'm not happy about the situation, hopefully he is understanding and approachable. This man's mouth may be putting off a lot of new members, who knows how many girls he has spoken to like that and they don't come back. Surely that is not in the best interest of the ward.

Some random guy I don't know coming up to me in a church and telling me I need to wear a dress like its 1950 or something is insulting. Whats more, I can't even blame him for doing it because the church backs up his standpoint. Its totally outdated. And I think I'll choose common sense thank you very much.

LOL Melbourne, 4 seasons in one day - every day - half of them freezing!