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    Possible overturn of Roe vs Wade?

    I addition to the wonderful response by @Vort, I will point you to one of my favorite talks on the subject, "Weightier Matters". To reaffirm the Church's acceptance of Elder Oaks teaching, it was published in the Ensign 11 years after it was given at BYU. Pertinent sections from the talk: Unfortunately, the "pro-choice" members with whom I have shared this talk have given some of the same justifications that were negated by Elder Oaks as their reasons for ignoring it's message.
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    Possible overturn of Roe vs Wade?

    I have little faith in the integrity of the Supreme Court. However, as much as I would love to protect the lives of the innocent unborn children of God, I find myself even more excited about the plausibility that the Church releases a statement in support of the decision to overturn Roe v Wade (if it comes), in hopes that it will convince at least a few of the members of the Church (in my area that includes our Bishop's wife and the Stake Young Women's President) to stop supporting so called abortion 'rights' and the pro-choice movement. I doubt most who support such things will change their ways, but perhaps a few could be swayed by an official First Presidency statement. Anyway, we'll see if any of these hopeful things come to pass sometime next year I suppose.
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    Witnesses

    Just now watched the trailer. Can't seem to find where / how to watch it. Do you know? I even have a Living Scriptures streaming subscription and they don't have it yet. . . . EDIT: Found it. Seems like it is now only available on DVD & Blu-Ray. Witnesses - Deseret Book
  4. person0

    Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

    Happy Thanksgiving!
  5. person0

    A Pentacostal Reads the BoM

    I think the answer is relatively simple: "he who hath ears to hear, let him hear." The promise declared by Moroni is ultimately one of many ways an individual may receive a witness of the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon. However, it is the only promised way that is 100% guaranteed. That doesn't mean it is easy, automatic, or to be taken for granted. That also doesn't mean we can or should only count answers that come through prayer at the expense of potentially casting out other witnesses we have received. I had many experiences with the Holy Spirit in my life before I ever got an answer following Moroni's method. I always wondered why I never was able to get an answer witnessing the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon while praying. Then when I finally got and answer through prayer, I realized why hadn't before. I asked Marge if she wanted me to share my witness and if she was willing to receive it and she wasn't. She also went beyond claiming to have never received an answer and extended to claiming to have received revelation in direct opposition to the promised answer. Despite these things, I know that one day she and her testimony can grow to embrace the truths of the Restored Gospel. God doesn't withhold a testimony from anyone, we withhold them from ourselves, albeit sometimes unwittingly.
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    Kyle Rittenhouse

    I agree 100% that they were in the wrong and that they are guilty of something. The problem is, I don't think they are guilty of murder in the same way King Lamoni was guilty of murder, nor in the way Nehor was guilty of murder, nor in the way David was. It saddens me that our justice system isn't equipped or wasn't willing to handle the difference based on the charges. The good news is that Christ knows and understands all the nuanced differences of sin and grievous acts and will be able to resolve these things for both the living and the dead when He comes.
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    A Pentacostal Reads the BoM

    I am grateful you are willing to acknowledge at least this much. It could have been an evil Spirit, but it doesn't have to have been. Satan does all he can to copy spiritual influences to lead people astray. For example: After spending a great deal of time one day in a Buddhist temple (as a carpet cleaner - for my job), I felt a great sense of tranquility with the absence of the Spirit. That is one experience where I came to personally understand that Satan will seek to use feelings of tranquility as a replacement for the feeling of the peace of the Spirit. Joy: Fun, Love: Lust, and so on. Oddly, I find a good example of what this might be like is from the movie Batman Begins; when Ra's al Ghul (played by Liam Needing) is about to die, you can see his expression change to one of tranquility and acceptance of his fate. Such thoughts may dissipate inner turmoil but are no replacement for the true light and peace that comes from the Spirit of God. Hopefully this doesn't distract, from the intent of the message, but here is a still from that scene in the movie that captures the tranquility of resigning to ones fate. It could have been your own thoughts and desires. Perhaps there are things you do not like about the Church that made it easy to feel doubt and fear even while praying, and then to interpret those feelings as a witness that the Church and / or Book of Mormon is not true. Perhaps you did not separate your requests; the first step is to come to a knowledge that the Book of Mormon is true, everything else can be baby steps after that. It is common for people to receive a witness of the Book of Mormon and then to, through fear and doubt, reject a similar witness that the Church is Christ's true Church. I saw this regularly as a missionary. People received a witness and knew the Book of Mormon was true, but did not want to join the Church for their own reasons. ( I know you claim that you did want it ) There are so many distractions in this world and ways to sin and be led away. Satan will use whatever it takes. I have often considered the saying, "the only true miracle is that a man will repent and change". I like this saying because it emphasizes that God can do many mighty miracles that we see as miracles because they are supernatural according to mankind's understanding, but even He cannot and does not force a man to repent, that change must come from within and be chosen by the penitent. The personal decision to choose to repent, change and turn to God is a true miracle. I hope you find yourself a participant in that miracle in one day expanding upon your faith in Christ by receiving and accepting a witness of the Holy Spirit and choosing to accept and follow the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon and eventually join the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, and go no more out. 🤗
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    A Pentacostal Reads the BoM

    The truth. Jesus Christ is the Savior of all mankind. He paid the infinite price of sin and overcame death and hell to pave the way for us to become clean and to receive eternal life. The Spirit testifies of this truth. The truth is absolute, and God makes it known to man by the power of the Holy Ghost. It is the absolute and eternal truth that determines what religious beliefs are right and wrong. What you are describing here is not something that is possible. The Holy Ghost will not and cannot give two conflicting answers to the question, "Is Jesus Christ the Son of God and the Savior of Mankind?" He likewise will not and cannot give conflicting answers to the question, "Is the Book of Mormon a true book and the Word of God?" This has nothing to do with what we can or cannot accept, it solely pertains to what is and what is not. The question at hand is not dependent on other factors such as what is proper for you to eat as compared to me based on the differences in our physical health. Either the answer and testimony we have interpreted is true or it is not. The same applies to you. These conflicting answers are mutually exclusive. God is not the author of confusion, He is no respecter of persons, He is the same yesterday, today and forever. If one cannot rely upon Him to give identical answers to the same question regarding individual facts, then God could not be a trusted source of information, and ultimately could not be the object of our reverence, praise, and worship. The naivety comes in believing God can or would ever contradict Himself when speaking to different individuals. I am a child of God and an emissary of Christ. I am a holder of His holy priesthood. It is by Christs authority that I declare His truth. I desire only to witness of that which is right. I know the Book of Mormon is true, and that Christ is the only way whereby mankind may be saved. The Holy Ghost has made this known unto me and He can and will make it known unto you. It is not I, not any other man that has established this as God's truth, but God Himself has done it. If you believe He has made known unto you something different, then at a minimum, you must also believe that I and others have misunderstood or misinterpreted the answer we received. But I know the answers I have received are correct and true, and therefore, I invite you to come to the knowledge that the answer you believe you received, came not from God. I invite you to repent and to seek after this truth once more as you claim to have done in the past. You are endowed with the freedom to reject this, and to disbelieve it, but it will not make it any less true. I testify of these truths with boldness stemming from the love I have for you as my sister in Christ, and the desire for your eternal salvation in the Kingdom of God, through Christs atoning grace, and I do so in His name.
  9. person0

    A Pentacostal Reads the BoM

    So are you a universalist or something? It sounds like you believe all paths lead back to God. On a contradictory note, this statement as a question makes no sense in relation to your claim to having received an answer that the Book of Mormon is not true. If you believe that all religions can be right, there's no reason you couldn't have simply chosen to be a member of the Church, and more importantly, if those religions you named are not wrong, why would ours be? By that question I mean to suggest that your own logic indicates it would not be possible to have received an actual answer from God that the Book of Mormon is not true. As a related aside. The things you are saying really point more and more to validate my statement that you must have not fulfilled God's promise as declared by Moroni. You are beginning to write in ways that indicate you adhere to what we commonly refer to as the philosophies of men mingled with scripture. Once again, I have no intention of meanness, but I will be bold in my testimony of the truth of God.
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    A Pentacostal Reads the BoM

    I think it would be inconsistent with the teachings of the Book of Mormon as a whole for God to wait until after someone's death to witness to them that the Book of Mormon is true and that it is His word, through His prophets and messengers, IF they are reading it and seeking that answer in this life. Oh but it does. Either the Book of Mormon is what we claim it to be (a genuine and true historical and scriptural record of God's dealings with some of the ancient inhabitants of the Americas), or it isn't. There is no in between. I am curious, do you claim that you received a specific witness that the Book of Mormon is not true, or simply that you never received a witness that it is?
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    A Pentacostal Reads the BoM

    It is true. Neither your nor my wants have any bearing on it. It simply is. Don't get me wrong, I understand your perspective. What you perceive as arrogance is confidence in God and the witness of His Spirit. My relationship with my Heavenly Father and my Savior, Jesus Christ, and the manifestations of God's power in my life, both temporal and spiritual have led me to this knowledge time and time again. I know you can come to this knowledge, too. I don't know the circumstances surrounding your efforts to seek an answer, so I can only judge based on God's promise that I know for myself to be true. If you are interested and willing to hear it, I will gladly share my experience with the fulfillment of that promise in the hopes that it may help you. Would you like me to share my witness and would you be willing to hear the Spirit witness to your Spirit that my experience and testimony is true?
  12. person0

    A Pentacostal Reads the BoM

    I haven't done that. It is neither you nor I, but God's promise, as declared by Moroni, that establishes that everyone will receive a testimony of the Book of Mormon by the power of the Holy Ghost, if they properly adhere to the requirements of the promise as it pertains to their individual situation, assuming they 'do not cast it out by [their] unbelief'. I believe this is unrelated. The Book of Mormon being true has nothing to do with whether or not some other Church policy, teaching, or statement is true. If one disagree's, they are free to take it up with God and Moroni, who also promised, "God shall show unto you, that that which I have written is true." It is not my intent to be hard. I desire that all understand that they will come to know the Book of Mormon is true by the power of the Holy Ghost when they follow the prescribed way to obtain a witness as it pertains to their circumstances. Otherwise, God would be a respecter of persons.
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    A Pentacostal Reads the BoM

    I mean no disrespect, but I know the Book of Mormon is true by the power of the Holy Ghost. It cannot be true for some and not true for others. If you believe you have not received an answer, there is either something missing from your methodology, or from the way you seek, interpret, or accept answers from God. If you truly want to know it is true, and are willing to act upon a personal witness and confirmation, as a community, we would love to help you dissect and enhance your process of seeking and finding, so that you may not only receive, but also recognize the witness God has prepared for you.
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    Kyle Rittenhouse

    The mothers of the Army of Helaman volunteered their young sons. They killed lots of people. God even helped them do it! 😁