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  1. No, not associated with snuffer still. Never read his stuff and have no clue what that download reference was. Do not, never have associated with non-LDS study groups. If snuffer is talking about second comforter, he did not invent teaching. That phrase, as a matter of fact, is in the Bible Dictionary, Guide to the Scriptures and Topical Guide. The term "Doctrine of Christ" is not my term. Nephi introduced it in the Book of Mormon and the steps, principles and truths of it are repeatedly discussed throughout. Nephi teaches it in "plainness"--his words, not mine. Quotes from LDS church leaders are in fact in the Study Guide. I like the one from McConkie you shared, thank you. I take no issue with church leaders. I love and sustain them in their respective callings from my Sunday School teacher to my Bishop to the church President. Part of using our own free will is to discern who is speaking prophetically at any given point in time. That discernment is personal revelation. Personal revelation is part of our personal learning. Getting it right and getting it wrong are included in that learning. Any scriptures referenced in the Study Guide were not intended to be cherry picked. At the beginning of the guide it asks all readers to study and search the verses before and after the referenced scriptures. Thus the referenced scriptures were only a starting point. Once there, the Lord's words and spirit can do the teaching to each individual. This discussion was never supposed to be about "me". As a matter of fact, that's the point of keeping it anonymous so that the reader can focus on the message as opposed to the messenger. I apologize for any egotism. It is apparently taking the attention away from the original desire. Please ask that we cease the personal attacks--me included--and keep it to the substance of the Doctrine of Christ.As a I mentioned before, if people are fully aware ("in the know") of the Doctrine of Christ and are on this spiritual journey or have fulfilled that spiritual journey to receive the Savior, Jesus Christ, in mortality then hallelujah. After all, it is the "plan of salvation" that Moses refers to (Moses 6:59-62). This is the gospel--the "good news"--that the Savior is asking and patiently waiting for us to seek His face and His presence. If people are "in the know", have already received or fulfilled the Doctrine of Christ then do as Moses encourages "teach it to others" and encourage others to start their journey to the presence of the Lord. That's what I was trying to do on this forum--share it and provide people a chance to learn it if they are unfamiliar. If the Doctrine of Christ is not something that you personally choose to learn, understand, believe or live then I can only recommend that you move on from this forum thread. 2 Nephi 28 is a great resource. It's also perfectly ok with someone not liking the guide format and direction. I respect everyone's own personal journey. I've had mine and continue on mine. Good discussion. Thank you for your comments.
  2. Wow there is a lot to respond to here: 1. Project Doctrine of Christ is not associated with Denver Snuffer. It does not follow or intend to support him and his efforts. If a person has read the "About" information they would discover loyalties to the LDS church and leadership in their respective callings and assignments. 2. Appears to be an issue, from some, with the "tone" of some comments made on the site. For that, you have my sincere apologies. I hope that you will not let my personal flaws keep you from the substance and content that is presented in the Study Guides. The Study Guides speak for themselves. They are the words of the Lord in scripture. If someone has allowed my flawed tone keep them from even digging into the words of the Lord in scripture (Study Guides) then they have missed the point. I am not taking the comments personal about the tone, although I will sincerely apologize, but I will say that I would assume that the Pharisees did not appreciate the Savior's tone when He preached and certainly when He turned the tables over in the temple. The pharisees would probably tell us that Jesus' teaching didn't quite fit in the "pharisee box." 3. Per, "We believe that some people can reach a very high level of obedience and oneness with God in this life which will allow us to have a personal theophany with Christ, Himself. We do NOT term this the 'Doctrine of Christ'." The Study Guides were developed for this exact reason. Without being on the attack (which is not my intent here), humbly, you don't even know what is in the scriptures. Nephi teaches it in "plainness"--his words, not mine. 4. Per the quoting of 3 Nephi, that is an incomplete study of the Doctrine of Christ. Thus, the exact reason for the Study Guides. 5. Per, "We tend to believe that, while it is possible and attainable, most of us are simply not that righteous. And the Prophets of later years have told us that essentially, to look so far off in the distance will cause us to trip over the obstacles right in front of us. Yes, we keep such things in our hearts and minds as goals, but we often can't see clearly enough to see such a distant goal, when we're struggling with simple things like reading our scriptures faithfully every day or keeping our tempers down when apostates come posing as helpful fellow saints." I keep having to say this, I guess I'll say it again, but this is the exact reason the Study Guides were created. To actually help people learn, understand, believe and live the Doctrine of Christ. There is actually an entire section dedicated to "Why Some Will Not Seek for this" and it includes the claims that "most of us are simply not that righteous." The Savior's words in the scriptures call it "unbelief." I also find it interesting that comments on this thread are commenting as if they are speaking on behalf of the LDS Church and the official position of the LDS church..."we believe...". If you have dismissed this truth, humbly, you are not aware of the historical teachings from the likes of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, Bruce R. McConkie, Russell M. Nelson, David A. Bednar, Neal A. Maxwell and others. Humbly, it might be a case of not knowing your own religion--certainly not what is found in the scriptures. Again, I am personally not trying to convince anyone. The Lord's words and His spirit do all the teaching. They are what they are. The Study Guide just points a person to the scriptures--His words--allowing His spirit to rest upon a person. By the power of the Holy Ghost you may know the truth of all things (Moroni 10:3-5). Interesting that people are actually dismissing the words of the Lord in the scriptures. I am trying to avoid quoting scriptures in my responses simply because they are already in the Study Guide. It is hard to represent my personal desire, my heart and my humble sincerity through text. For that I am sorry and ask for forgiveness in my writing abilities. I am certain that if we were sitting together in the same room it would come across different. I probably didn't reply to everything for which I also apologize. Humbly
  3. Sorry if you feel that way. Apologies, as that was not my intent. My intent is not to necessarily promote the website. After all, there's nothing for me to gain. There's no monetary value to be gained and the site is anonymous to keep the focus off of the messenger and on the message. If anything, the website is only a vehicle to arrive at the Study Guides. The Study Guides are "a" personal resource (one of many I assume that exists) that helps people start a spiritual journey that will lead to the actual presence of the Lord. A spiritual journey for those that have ears to hear and eyes to see. The blog posts are only supplements to the Study Guides. This explanation is outlined in the "About" section of the website. If it "sounds like I am sharing 'the great secret' that no one else knows about" I naturally assume that you are fully aware ("in the know") of the Doctrine of Christ and are on this spiritual journey or have fulfilled that spiritual journey to receive the Savior, Jesus Christ, in mortality. If people are "in the know" and The Doctrine of Christ is not a secret as you claim, then I am simply curious why we are not discussing it more than we are. Why are people not sharing their experiences and encouraging others to receive the Savior, Jesus Christ? After all, it is the "plan of salvation" that Moses refers to (Moses 6:59-62). My personal opinion is that we are very comfortable, to the point of prideful, as members of the LDS church thinking that we have much more than we actually have. When in reality, we don't have as much as we think we have and we therefore are consumed or distracted by extraneous or peripheral things associated with church membership or culture. This is the gospel--the "good news"--that the Savior is asking and patiently waiting for us to seek His face and His presence. If people are "in the know", have already received or fulfilled the Doctrine of Christ then do as Moses encourages "teach it to others" and encourage others to start their journey to the presence of the Lord. And if you are one of those that is "in the know" of the Doctrine of Christ and somewhere on that spiritual journey then this post to encourage anyone to realize our "awful situation" was probably not for you. I am not smart enough to know what "pedagogical" is, sorry. Always open to discussing the great blessings and opportunities available in and through "the gospel." MormonHub seems like a good platform for discussing this true principle, sharing it "out loud" and helping to create awareness of "a" resource (again, one of many I am sure) for learning more about the Doctrine of Christ. All glory to the Savior, Jesus Christ.
  4. [Excerpt taken from the complimentary Doctrine of Christ Study Guide at www.ProjectDoctrineOfChrist.com] A SERVANT SHOULD SEEK TO RECEIVE THE MASTER, JESUS CHRIST, THE SAVIOR, HIMSELF (SECOND COMFORTER) (Isa. 55:6-7)...Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: Let the wicked forsake his way and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the Lord, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. (Amos 5:6,8)...Seek the Lord, and ye shall live...Seek him that maketh the seven stars and Orion...The Lord is his name. (Zeph. 2:3)...Seek ye the Lord, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness. (1 Chronicles 16:10-11)... Glory ye in his holy name: let the heart of them rejoice that seek the Lord. Seek the Lord and his strength, seek his face continually. (2 Chronicles 15:12-15...And they entered into a covenant to seek the Lord God of their fathers with all their heart and with all their soul; That whosoever would not seek the Lord God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (Jeremiah 50:4-5)...they and the children of Judah together, going and weeping: they shall go, and seek the Lord their God...and let us join ourselves to the Lord in a perpetual covenant that shall not be forgotten. (D&C 39:3-5,10-11,18; 84:35-37; 133:61-67; 132:23-25)...Arise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on my name, and you shall receive my Spirit, and a blessing so great as you never have known...And also all they who receive this priesthood receive me, saith the Lord; For he that receiveth my servants receiveth me; And he that receiveth me receiveth my Father;
  5. It is worrisome that many posts are discussing many peripheral aspects of the gospel of Jesus Christ and yet serious doctrines are often propagated by opinions and lack the strength of the words of Christ. We live in a day when we are highly distracted by the world and there is not enough attention given to the Doctrine of Christ. Is there truly anything more important than His doctrine? THE DOCTRINE OF CHRIST IS THE TRUTH, INVITATION AND MEANS WHEREBY ALL THAT ARE 'JUST AND TRUE' SONS OR DAUGHTERS OF JESUS CHRIST WILL LITERALLY RECEIVE HIM WHILE IN MORTALITY BY BEING A PERSONAL WITNESS OF THE MARKS OF HIS ATONEMENT, EXPERIENCE HIS GLORY, AND BE PERSONALLY TAUGHT BY HIM IN HIS PRESENCE. Wow! Yes, every person is expected to actually receive the Savior, Jesus Christ while in mortality as part of one's personal ascension process. The good news is that any person can learn, understand, believe and live the Doctrine of Christ on their own. It is a personal journey of each and every person. Don't take anyone else's word for it--learn it directly from the Lord through His words and His spirit. Start your journey in The Doctrine of Christ Study Guide at www.ProjectDoctrineOfChrist.com.