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Right dude, you under-estimate your own IQ. It absolutely requires high intellect. Average IQ is like 80. That is the average. People who graduate with a bachelor's degree's average IQ is around 100, master's degree 110+, PhD over 120. You really underestimate what it takes to get an MD/JD, etc. You are actually really intelligent. Hard work absolutely cannot make-up for sub-optimal intelligence. Hard work can overcome some difference, if you take a hardworker with some intelligence and a lazy person with more intelligence, but when the average IQ is 80, no amount of hard work from a person who has an IQ of 80 is ever going to compete with someone of 110+ IQ. Just not gonna happen. And you really don't know how smart and blessed you are b/c of your intellect until you've dealt with the average. And most people who are MDs, engineers, etc. b/c of the circles they run in do not interact with people who are much lower than them on the IQ scale. And this is the thing that blows me away. .. it's not just a matter of education. I wish it were. There is just plain raw brain-power. Some people have it and some people don't and no amount of forcing people to college is going to change that (unless you dumb down entrance requirements or change graduation requirements). I wish it weren't that way, but it is. You can't take someone who has an IQ of 80 and make them an engineer-if you do serious disaster is going to happen. And it's sad, b/c nobody likes to talk about it b/c it's not "nice", yet it is reality and so we end up setting up people to fail-telling them they can be anything they want to be-yet that is a lie. And if people thought about it, it should actually generate more charity towards others and realize that not everyone has the same gifts and to be really grateful for what you've got and to recognize that not everyone has the same capability to do really, really well in life . .that maybe being a lumberjack or a janitor is the best they can hope to achieve with what God gave them-and that it is perfectly alright. Instead of looking down on those less fortunate b/c they didn't work as hard or whatever, maybe realize they are absolutely doing the best they can with the gifts God gave them.

Sigh, this is why getting into discussions like this is pointless. Women use emotion to think, men use logic. Whatever, use emotion, call me silly. I deal in facts, logic, reason, not name-calling and emotional logic. No you don't know engineering-period. I don't care about your pedigree-doesn't matter to me. It doesn't have to do with interest it has to do with intelligence. The fact that you claim it doesn't, when clearly the degree requires you to be a really intelligent person to master it and since those are high paying jobs, really highly intelligent people gravitate towards those fields, i.e. you get the most intelligent men and the most intelligence woman gravitating towards those jobs. More male geniuses than women geniuses. Sigh, whatever . . .and you wonder how we came to the point where your husband got laid of b/c of "diversity". Women (in general) simply cannot compete in those fields regardless of their interest or at least not without "help". It is why STEM field initiatives to get women into STEM fields fails, miserably without "incentives". Regardless of sex, a highly intelligent person is not going to be satisfied in a non-intellectually stimulating job. They aren't going to be satisfied being a lumberjack or a nurse-b/c their brain is going to scream for something else. The highly intellectual individuals are the doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc. b/c each new case, each new problem is different, it actually engages their brain to make it stimulating to work. This is why the really, really smart women ARE engineers, doctors, lawyers, etc. Because any other field would not be satisfying to their brain. . . .but whatevs. Good luck.

With respect, you don't know what engineering is and coding is not engineering. A high school kid can learn how to code a script-we call them script-kiddies-that's not engineering. Engineering absolutely requires extreme intelligence-running insanely complex mathematical algorithms, probability, statistics, calculus, differential equations, linear algebra, material strength, pi, R-values, resisters, etc. It's intelligence.

That sucks-it's the way of the world now. It's dangerous to be a straight white male in 2018. Google Tom MacDonald-rap-but actually kind-of decent rap and the youtube videos bleep the bad words.

Most don't, which is why they can't access the greater powers of the Priesthood.

?? I must have triggered you. I have no idea what you are trying to say here or that it has any relevance to the conversation at hand.

I agree it is stupid to lower the requirements . . .but that is EXACTLY what happens and we all know it. The "diversity" hire or the "diversity" promotion happens all the time! How many times to you hear someone say "we need more woman in xyz", or "boy it's good to see woman in blah", or "more woman need to be CEOs/xyz". So companies through HR make an emphasis to hire more woman, to promote more women. In fact-if you didn't know this-if a company is above 20 employees and they do not have a certain number of woman that they hire, the federal government MANDATES the entire company takes "diversity" training. A small business employer must pay his employees to take a day out to ensure they are adequately trained on "diversity".

It breaks down to biology. The bell curve for men on intelligence is much broader than for women, i.e. there are more geniuses and more dunces who are male. At the upper ends of intelligence practically all super geniuses are men. Sorry, woman don't hold a candle to the upper end of male intelligence. But by the same token, men have far more idiots than woman. The bottom rungs of intelligence are populated with men. That's one reason why there are more men who are engineers, doctors, lawyers, etc. than women. B/c it requires high intelligence that frankly most woman simply can not compete on. This does not mean there aren't extremely intelligence women-b/c obviously there are-but when looked at as a population it's not a comparison. The second factor is work ethic. The really high intellectual jobs require INSANE amounts of dedication, hard work, and motivation to actually compete. 60 hour work weeks are nothing, it is highly competitive, highly intense and really hard work-and you need a far amount of freaking testosterone to drive one to survive. It's why women simply biologically can't have it all, but a man can. A man can have a family, take care of his kids and do well in his job-but a woman simply can't. In order to compete with kids, a woman is going spending 15 min. pumping breastmilk for her 2-month old baby in the bathroom stall a couple times a day while the man is busting his tail. Biology-she just can't compete if she wants it all. If she wants to compete with the men, she has to give something up-either be done having kids-have no kids-take a lower paying or less stressful job, etc. Tack on the fact that men and woman are socially different creatures. Stock traders and financial market guys-all male-requires super intelligence and super hard work. I'm speaking broadly and definitely there are outliers on either sex . . .but if you look at the data and study large groups of people certain trends pop-out. Just like men are more violent than women, but both men and woman can be very agrressive. Men show their aggression physically, woman show their aggression and revenge . . .with a knife in the back. Unfortunately very few people want to acknowledge the real differences between men and women-yet anyone who is married CLEARLY knows there are vast, vast differences.

Yeah it is a real thing-believe it or disbelieve it, it doesn't change the facts. A little thought experiment for you. What happens when a child is given 100 christmas presents. Do they respect the toys? Do they take care of them? Most certainly not. Why? b/c if they break 1 toy they have 99 others to play with! So the actual individual toy becomes less important. Now what happens if a child is given 5 toys for Christmas. Each individual toy takes on more worth. If you break 1 toy you only have 4 left. 1/100 <<<<< 1/5. It's a simple economic calculation. And any child who is old enough to think does this calculation subconsciously! Now what happens to the child who spends his summers mowing his neighbors yard and at the end of the summer has 300 to buy a game console. Does he not value his toy more b/c he recognizes how MUCH work went into earning it? It costs him mowing yards and entire summer! That's a lot of hard work! What happens if his parents just give him a gaming console? The child will never understand the actual work that went into earning it. If a child is raised properly he can begin to see that life isn't free and nothing comes for free-when someone gives him something he will remember how much work it took him to earn the gaming console and how much work it takes for someone else to give him the gift he is getting.

Anyone in the US or pretty much any Western Civilization who complains about money is an ungrateful punk who has absolutely no clue what poverty or not having money really looks like. Does anyone in the US use an outhouse? Does anyone in the US NOT have running water? Does anyone who is "poor" in the US not have a blasted smartphone so they can look at porn all day? We as a culture and a society don't have flipping clue what poor really looks like.

One of the worst things you can do is give your kids a lot of money; they haven't earned it, they don't respect it and will blow it really fast. If you give your kids a lot of money, put stipulations on it like they can't touch it until they are 40 or something.

People think having money solves problems . . .it may solve some problems. . .but not many. There is a reason why one of the worst things that can actually happen to someone is to win the lottery.

I generally save 50% of my take-home; I buy what I need, I save to provide a better lifestyle for my family. If you are giving away everything but your kids are going without shoes-you've got a big problem. I have no problem giving a generous fast offering, I have no problem helping other people out, volunteering my time, my talents, etc. There is no set metric-it's a personal decision. If you think you are materialistic, evaluate your life and determine if you are. And you have to evaluate what the money is used for. Just giving money is easy . . .actually helping someone out-that is the hard part. It's easy to donate money to the Red Cross, Wounded Warrior, etc. to make oneself feel good . . .except a good portion of the money gets sucked up into big salaries for individuals who fly on jets across the country-someone has to run the show and you won't get good people running the show paying them pennies. Actually helping out your neighbor-taking them a ham for Christmas, giving them a call when they need it-actually ministering to others-truly ministering-that's the hard part. Materialism is an attitude of "it's all about me, me, me" and it can be made manifest in many more ways than simply having money.

Disagree. Personal decision. One may or may not be materialistic if one is saving a bunch of money. One may or may not be materialistic if one is giving everything away. It's about what is in the heart-do you have your heart set upon riches or not? And giving everything away may or may not be indicative of your heart. There are very good reasons to save a bunch of money-get out of debt for one. If you are drowning in debt you can't very well help out others.

I'm not so sure you should be discussing deeply personal, sacred and spiritual experiences like the above on a public forum. Casting pearls before swine and all that. A blessing is for you and meant for you to interpret with your knowledge based upon Scripture, God's Word, his Prophets and the Holy Ghost-it ain't meant for the entire world. Why are you asking Billy, Bob, Joe, Sue and Mary who may or may not share your faith about something so spiritual and personal but not relying upon the actual means with which God has blessed you to find the answers-which are mainly the Scriptures, words of the Prophets and the Holy Ghost?

And I'm just gonna leave this here: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/high-school-students-stage-walkout-to-support-teacher-fired-for-refusing-to

Good luck it's only going to get worse. Except if you notice the "equality" in the workplace is only one way. It is only one way into high-paying prestigious jobs . . .you know the ones that in general require extreme amount of sacrifice, hard work, smarts and dedication. You'll never see the "equality" army push for more women to be lumberjacks or for more men to be nurses. In fact, you won't see "equality" pushing for woman to be drafted-the ultimate "equality" in the workplace. And the only way it stops if for women to stop it-when women want their husbands to stop competing with other woman for scare resources so their husband can bring home more for the family, when women decide to take a stand and push back against the evils of "equality" then it will stop . . .otherwise it won't.

Two boys throwing glitter all over the place-boys being rambunctious boys trying to burn off energy. Boys not obeying teacher in putting away glitter and cleaning up their mess when teacher says so-spoiled brats who need some stern discipline-both from the teacher and from parents. Ever notice has the vast majority of ADHD cases are boys?? Hmm . . .maybe it's not a "real" thing except a way to codify, disobedient boys. Teachers can't or won't discipline children anymore. They think a kid needs to be "talked to", he needs to "explain his feelings" . .which is the wrong approach-and typical for women (no offense). Why did the boy throw glitter . . .b/c it seemed like a cool thing to do! And of course it was . . .it was glorious! Why does the boy not obey? Because no one taught him in no uncertain terms that he will obey his mother-either through removal of privileges, toys, games, etc. or buy being sent to their room, or by even simply taking a stern and firm tone with the kid. Parents get down on their knees and talk "nice" like they are begging a king for he to obey . . .and they wonder why the kid doesn't obey . . .well you treat him like a king and a king can do whatever he wants. The boys aren't the problem-it's society and parents.

Very well said. Thank you.

The flaw in that is there is only so much time to actually teach.

Because grunt it's the new age "parenting" philosophy. If you actually train your kids your a "bad" parent, but teach a kid to "think for himself" and you are a good parent. As if "thinking for yourself" is the end goal of raising a kid. It stupidity and it's why the current generation is screwed up.

Why don't you explain then? You've already twisted the MTC experience into "brainwashing" even though that is a complete farse. Anyone who has been a missionary and stayed faithful would certainly not put much weight on your words bc your perspective is quite off. And if discipling your children when they get it out of line is a "satanic" influence then I'd be glad to be influenced by it!

Of your own choice- you got up at 5:30. No one made you do it, even if someone suggested it, there was no bell waking you up at 530.

Oh please. Getting up at 6:30 sleep deprivation. Dude they have you in bed by 1030, that's 8 hours of sleep. It's called a training program for a reason. Stop making it out to be some boogy man "brain-washing" camp.

I think you have drawn the wrong conclusions from your upbringing. Your parents didn't "brainwash you", they did what the scriptures say, "train up a child in the way he shall go and when he is old he will not depart far from it". Yes everyone will eventually have to personally accept the gospel-but they trained you in the proper way so that when you were old enough to make the decision you were well-prepared to do so. Statistics bear it out, the children who end up following in their parents faith are the ones who's parents were "devoted" to the faith. If you teach a child, well maybe this is the right path, maybe it's not . . .they very well may decide no thankyou! But teach a child, this is the right path, when they become an adult they will have to make the decision---do I continue on this path?-more likely than not they will say sure. It's really fascinating to see "believers" tap-dance around this issue. No one EVER says, you know I want my child to think for himself about whether it's okay to smoke cigarettes! or you know I want my child to "think for himself" about pre-marital sex! The ones who do that-those are the kids who are smoking and having sex! Yet, "believers" will do the same exact thing with religion. I want my child to "think for himself" about Church . . .yeah well good luck he'll be the first one to fall away.