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  1. Anti-Mormon Media

    in LDS Gospel Discussion

    Posted

    How do you know he didn't father any children by all those wives? He kept the wives secret, it's probable that he kept the children secret.

    Because they been DNA tested. They (or their grand great children) have no JSs DNA. Only one possibility was not tested when I heard, read about this.

  5. Do you speak a language?

    in General Discussion

    Posted · Edited by Maya

    Maya, what languages/language does your husband speak?

    Norwegean, IF he has to some Engilish, but not much. Not good enough to listen to Conferance in English... He learned it while he was 3 months in Corpus Cristi in a Hospital, as he fell some 10 feet on some big pipes on a boat, broke his back and crashed his heal, he was working with. They did nto believe he will walk out of the hospital but he did.

  7. Do you speak a language?

    in General Discussion

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    I am Finnish so I speak and write Finnish. I fell in love with a Norwegean and live there now... so I speak Norwegean daily too. And English. A bit Swedish.. I can read Dannish, but to understand that is difficult. I have been able to speak fluent German (at 6 of age, my grandmother was a German) but I have forgotten most of it. I also studied Spanish and Greek and Estonian which is almost Finnish.

    I dont mix Finnish in my English (Except when I speak) but sometimes I do mix Norwegean since the words are pretty often pretty much alike. My computer has cut out the correction programs as it never knows what language to use... and it wont hear me! :mad:

    I write every day 3 languages and often speak them too during the day. I do try to speak Finnish to my husband sometimes when I am tired... then he just looks at me weird and say... I did not understand... and I go... oh did I say it in Finnish... :P

    And also about my spellingmistakes on top I have dyslexi et dysgraphi.

  8. Anti-Mormon Media

    in LDS Gospel Discussion

    Posted

    I don't search for/read through the anti sites, I do read through the apologetic sites though - like

    LDS FAIR Apologetics Homepage

    reading through fairlds.org is a great way to know what is out there that is being said - while at the same time seeing the truth, errors in what has been said.

    I was challenged to show that an antisite was wrong... it is very difficult as the things in the back ground are true but not the imagination added to it. It is true that JS had many wifes, but the anties hint that they slept in same bed, which is wrong, but difficult to prove wrong. :mad:

    That site is so full of such things I did tell waht is wrong ... but ofcourse I just got to hear that I have not shown anything.... and that LDS dont have scolars....

  9. Anti-Mormon Media

    in LDS Gospel Discussion

    Posted

    Looks like an anti has reacted... :freddie:

    I likied your text. Funny thing is that often they cant even say why they call us a cult or a movement or what ever.... and they do not see that their church would also be a cult or movement or what ever using the same explanation to the word.

  12. Anti-Mormon Media

    in LDS Gospel Discussion

    Posted

    If I were to visit an LDS.net gathering, and a member happened to know someone who had been an evangelical pastor, and left it to become LDS, I would not be at all surprised to encounter a, "Hey PC, I've got someone I'd like you to meet. I think you'll find his story interesting . . . "

    Would an old Lutheran do, a granddaughter of two priests??? :D

  15. Anti-Mormon Media

    in LDS Gospel Discussion

    Posted

    On a Finnish netsite where I been since 2001 there has been a person who starts with one question... innocently. When you naswer the person turns the discusition to an other question again, just as he/she feels he/she is loosing he/she comes with an other question.... this continues through the most popular tabloid style questions about the church so NO ONE is left in ignorance about what terrible people we are. :D

    It is getting tiering... I think I take pention on that soon. Worst is that the person gets someone to argue ... yes,no,yes, no.... tries me too but mostly I just stop after I ahve given the right information.

    It is so sad that some listen to them and cant find the right answers. I like FAIR as there you have pretty well brought in to light ALL evidences, anties and ours. We ahve lost a lot of people in scandinavia to these who lay in wait to decieve and easier life.

    I have the Gaynsayers... but I think he is a Bahai now so it looks like that even though he has a lot of good stuff in the book if you use it as a referance you will hear from anties ... too bad.

    Over here they show the Godmakers now and then. My friend and me thought of going to see it in a Church and laugh at all the weird things in it... I wonder what woudl ahppen. I suppose they would trow us out.:P

    At least for those who can english there are some materials to read while like in Finnish there is only one pro book and 3 negative. the antisite was on line before Church site! And that antisite is soooo deceiving with a little truth and a lot wrong. It is even difficult to pinpoint the wrong there. Like of missionaries they tell that they are not allowed this or that ... which is right, but the way it is told it is like we would torture them! :eek:

    Each member should know enough not to fall for these fail accusitions and they should understand in same cases why it is or was the way it was or is. But worst is when investigators meet those questions. We have a few really strong new members but they came from that bad netsite so they were vaccinated there.

  17. Anti-Mormon Media

    in LDS Gospel Discussion

    Posted

    I spent about a decade searching out critics and criticisms of my faith. I also heavily ingested the defenses put out there by others. Topic by topic, story by story. I found it an incredibly testimony building exercise. I learned more about my church and what the gospel is by interacting with critics, than through any other exercise. Because it forced me to go to the sources - scripture, words of the prophets, and even the Gospel Principles manual.

    If you're like me, and you can learn about something by encountering it's opposite, I heartilly recommend it.

    If you'd like to approach criticisms of the faith by reading our answers, farms.byu.edu is an amazing resource, as is fairlds.org.

    D&C 71:5-11 Now, behold this is wisdom; whoso readeth, let him understand and receive also; For unto him that receiveth it shall be given more abundantly, even power. Wherefore, confound your enemies; call upon them to meet you both in public and in private; and inasmuch as ye are faithful their shame shall be made manifest. Wherefore, let them bring forth their strong reasons against the Lord. Verily, thus saith the Lord unto you—there is no weapon that is formed against you shall prosper; And if any man lift his voice against you he shall be confounded in mine own due time.

    1 Peter 3:15: "But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:"

    1 Thessalonians 5:21: "Prove all things; hold fast to which is good."

    Jude 1:3: "Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints."

    "Those to whom no problems occur are asleep at the wheel of truth."

    John A. Widtsoe

    "Though argument does not create conviction, the lack of it destroys belief. What seems to be proved may not be embraced; but what no one shows the ability to defend is quickly abandoned. Rational argument does not create belief, but it maintains a climate in which belief may flourish."

    Austin Farrer, "The Christian Apologist," in Light on C. S. Lewis , ed. Jocelyn Gibb (New York: Harcourt and Brace, 1965), 26.

    LM

    In English what I always have said! Thank you LM.... hmm I am also called ML :P

    While much of the arguments have already been answered, many critics and apostates tend to cling to them as if they have truth and refuse to accept the explanations, the academic, scholarly, and historical analysis provided - simply because they are not from Non-Mormon Sources.

    Very well known problem for me! I been fighting with Wikipedia to correct soem things about us, but problem is that there is no "neutral" literature. As soon as someone with an other religious back ground writes about us it turns very easily to antitext.

    One thing I chritisize is that anties want to be called critics! That lowers critics status a LOT! There are some critics that can be really good and dont attac you personally or the leaders of our Church, but stays in business.

    That film made me laugh as when I first time looked at it in the beginning I tought it was LDS film adn was wonbdering why it was so ugly drawn, really not inviting at all! When I realised after some time that it HAD TO be an anti film I just shok my head and laughed.

    The worst thing is that the anties are so sneeky they use all possible things to betray people and make them think they are real LDS... even members mistake them for real. Then they have got the eambers to listen ot read...

  22. What to do with my boyfriend..

    in Marriage and Relationship Advice

    Posted

    Please keep your head cool. Dont have sex before marriage. It may feel difficult now, but please do wait ... you WONT be sorry if you wait... you WILL be sorry if you dont. I was not a member then, but I always thought those thigs belong to marriage, but we were stupid and I been sorry for not waiting, I stil am. It was stupid, I was stupid... do you want to be stupid the rest of your life? You know what, when you are married you can do it without bad concious and it will be a lot better. Then you can continue all your life... I mean even a few years to wait is not long to feel that you did it right!

    Get married first! Even marriage then feels better when your conciousness is clear!