KosherXMorg Posted May 21, 2008 Report Posted May 21, 2008 I can't....this is a personal PB observation [reading]. My interest to track down this unique child.By House of David you mean Judah correct? David isn't a tribe. Quote
WillowTheWhisp Posted May 21, 2008 Report Posted May 21, 2008 How does the father have the House of Joseph in his PB and the Son has the House of David in his?I suppose in the same way that I have the house of Skerry in my family tree and my Father has the house of Jones. The son could have the house of David through his mother. Quote
Hemidakota Posted May 21, 2008 Report Posted May 21, 2008 Yes...it should of read Tribe of Judah not referring it to as a house. Some more observation: - he will write scripture -house of israel will bow down at his feet -he will raise the dead -he will have the same wisdom of Solomon Interesting... Quote
WillowTheWhisp Posted May 21, 2008 Report Posted May 21, 2008 I don't know how it is over there but one of the worst things I white guy can do here is be proud of being anglo-saxon and our accomplishments. We are supposed to go around with our heads held in shame at how awful we are and continually berate ourselves because our 4th great granfather might have had a slave or two. The concept that white anglos are the House of Israel scares the heck out of people because of this programming.Pretty much the same over here. We are forever apologising for things we never did but 'our ancestors' were supposedly responsible for. As far as I am aware none of my ancestors ever had slaves but even if they did I don't know why I should be expected to apologise for that. Where does it end?When I was in Ireland I had people criticising me for the potato famine! What they didn't realise was that some of my ancestors' relatives died in the potato famine as they were Irish.As for slavery - what about the Africans who took white Europeans as slaves? Quote
KosherXMorg Posted May 21, 2008 Report Posted May 21, 2008 This is a book I've been wanting to get and read...White Guilt: How Blacks and Whites ... - Google Book SearchWe ALL made mistakes. It's time for each of of to take our own bootstraps and firmly pull. Quote
WillowTheWhisp Posted May 22, 2008 Report Posted May 22, 2008 That book sounds like an excellent read. I particularly like this comment:portraying them not as capable individuals but as people defined by their membership in a group for which exceptions must be made.One thing which really annoys me is the current racism we have where white people are put to the bottom of the list just because they are white - for example job applicants. A black or Asian person is more likely to be accepted for the job because of their ethnic origin because the employer has to fulfill a quota - regardless of ability. Now if I were a black person and knew I'd been employed purely because of my skin colour and not because I was the best applicant for the job I would find that very offensive.I've heard this being justified by people saying "But you people (meaning whites) have had it your way for too long. Now it's our turn." - so, they admit that putting someone down because of colour is wrong and yet do it to white people because white people in the past did it to black people so that makes it right? I think not. Quote
Fiannan Posted May 22, 2008 Author Report Posted May 22, 2008 Ironic Willow since slave trading pirates from the Middle East and northern Africa raided the coasts of Ireland, Britain and France for centuries (primarily for white female sex slaves) until the British navy advanced to a degree that prevented them from being able to hunt Europe's Atlantic seaboard. Quote
WillowTheWhisp Posted May 22, 2008 Report Posted May 22, 2008 Yes I've brought up that point before when there's all this kerfuffle about white people apologising for slavery. The white people didn't invent it. That doesn't make it any more right or any more wrong, just not entirely one race to blame and I get a little tired of it being portrayed as such. Quote
Bookmeister Posted May 22, 2008 Report Posted May 22, 2008 I think it's all about the guilt. I say that because when someone finds out that I don't feel guilty about what happened before I was born (slavery, westward expansion at the expense of the indians, the Tuskeegee experiment, etc), I'm accused of being an insensitive racist (can you be a sensitive racist???) I can't fix other folks' issues, regardless of what they are. I can't eliminate racism, sexism, ageism, poverty, crime, violence, abuse, and on and on. All I can be is a person who tries not to be any of those things and who, instead, chooses to live the best life I can with the Lord as my shining example. I'm sad that those things exist, and I'm appalled at the amount of harm and loss we suffer because of those things, but being sad doesn't cut it for all those victims out there. But without that guilt, nothing else counts for all the apologists out there willing to take the blame for things they didn't do. Quote
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