MormonGirl02 Posted June 1, 2008 Report Posted June 1, 2008 Hi everyone. I have found a verse in the Bible that seems to refute the Mormon doctrine that man can become gods. It is Isaiah 43:10. How do we interpret this Bible verse? Isa 43:10 KJV Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. Quote
Islander Posted June 1, 2008 Report Posted June 1, 2008 Hi everyone. I have found a verse in the Bible that seems to refute the Mormon doctrine that man can become gods. It is Isaiah 43:10. How do we interpret this Bible verse?Isa 43:10 KJV Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.There is the "text" and the "context". Jehovah is speaking to present (that day) and future generations of Israel in this scripture. There was no Savior but Him, there is no GOD (in present time) but HIM, speaking of the idolatry and worshiping of false gods so common in that day in Israel, and that in the future HE alone remains GOD almighty and the people shall have no other god after they have known and have been witnesses of the words and the work of the Lord.It is not talking about eternal progression or the inheritance of the children of God to ALL that the Father has, including His Kingdom. That is just a whole different portion of the scriptures and it is only explicit as articulated by the Savior later in the NT. Quote
MormonGirl02 Posted June 1, 2008 Author Report Posted June 1, 2008 There is the "text" and the "context". Jehovah is speaking to present (that day) and future generations of Israel in this scripture. There was no Savior but Him, there is no GOD (in present time) but HIM, speaking of the idolatry and worshiping of false gods so common in that day in Israel, and that in the future HE alone remains GOD almighty and the people shall have no other god after they have known and have been witnesses of the words and the work of the Lord.It is not talking about eternal progression or the inheritance of the children of God to ALL that the Father has, including His Kingdom. That is just a whole different portion of the scriptures and it is only explicit as articulated by the Savior later in the NT.Ah okay. Thank you. :) Quote
Guest tomk Posted June 1, 2008 Report Posted June 1, 2008 Hi everyone. I have found a verse in the Bible that seems to refute the Mormon doctrine that man can become gods. It is Isaiah 43:10. How do we interpret this Bible verse?Isa 43:10 KJV Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. My questions for others are:To what end is all of this being done? Why are we going through this experience?Are we children of God? What do children grow up to be? Don't they become just like their parents?I simply feel that God wants us to worship Him and Him alone. It is not about ego. And it is not because He does not want to share His power with us. He is the way. He is the truth. He is the Life. He wants us to FOCUS on Him and Him alone. Because only He can lead us Home to Him. In this regard, there is no other "God" before Him or after Him. He is the God we focus on. That is what is meant by that verse. It does not destroy or impact "LDS" doctrine in the slightest. Quote
prisonchaplain Posted June 1, 2008 Report Posted June 1, 2008 I'm going to be real simple mineded here...so bare with me. In the Old Testament the Israelites are commanded to worship the one true God, and to reject the false gods of wood, hay and stubble. The daily recitation of the schema--hear O Israel the Lord our God, the Lord is one . . . the butchering of pagan Canaan, largely because of their evil religions--sacrificing babies in the fire to Molech, etc....all of these point towards a thorough-going monotheism, in my mind.Some argue that the "one God" passages point towards Henotheism (one God--for us, not exclusive of others that may exist), rather than an absolute monotheism. Without Joseph Smith's revelations, that interpretation seems rather dubious, imho. Quote
MormonGirl02 Posted June 2, 2008 Author Report Posted June 2, 2008 I'm going to be real simple mineded here...so bare with me. In the Old Testament the Israelites are commanded to worship the one true God, and to reject the false gods of wood, hay and stubble. The daily recitation of the schema--hear O Israel the Lord our God, the Lord is one . . . the butchering of pagan Canaan, largely because of their evil religions--sacrificing babies in the fire to Molech, etc....all of these point towards a thorough-going monotheism, in my mind.Some argue that the "one God" passages point towards Henotheism (one God--for us, not exclusive of others that may exist), rather than an absolute monotheism. Without Joseph Smith's revelations, that interpretation seems rather dubious, imho.I'd say that that is a good explanation! Thanks! Quote
Moksha Posted June 2, 2008 Report Posted June 2, 2008 Hi everyone. I have found a verse in the Bible that seems to refute the Mormon doctrine that man can become gods. It is Isaiah 43:10. How do we interpret this Bible verse?Isa 43:10 KJV Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. He obviously was speaking to the followers of Xenu, rather than to Latter-Day Saints. . Quote
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