How about fornication and adultery?

[WANDERER]

I'm an investigator. I don't matter.

[justamere10]

I'm an investigator. I don't matter.

I think we are all children of the same God, and we ALL matter.

But I understand that you are excluding yourself from scriptures other than perhaps the Bible. Enjoy the day.

[WANDERER]

No I don't exclude myself from other scriptures than the Bible. As odd as that may seem.

[abqfriend]

In the secular world-what you mention is said but true. Many people today do not go on "dates"-- they "hook-up" literally. It is a sad, but an accepted practice in much of our secular society. Such things are looked at as being OK or good.

One role of Christians is to point to the Truth-that what is being done is not correct. The word "sin" in our secular society-is something many would consider "old fashioned."

Many could care less if we tell them that they "are sinning." We would be told that our religious values are old-fashioned or not in step with modern society or values.

Satan/The Devil or what ever you call "evil" or against God-is active in our society as a force of darkness. It was 2000 years ago-and it is today.

We-no matter what shade of our light-have the light of Christianity to share with a very dark world.

Let us share the Light with love and understanding and hope in helping to bring about a positive change.

"Men (and Women) love darkness rather than Light"

Let us share the Light!

-Carol

Where do you live Plesantville? Seriosly I want to raise my kids there?

I've lived in FL, MI,OH,CA,TX, worked with people of all types of back ground, from different places , different ages and it was a fairly common held belief that fornication was ok. In fact in my/ my wifes career field adultery is pretty common place as well.Sad but true

[justamere10]

In the secular world-what you mention is said but true. Many people today do not go on "dates"-- they "hook-up" literally. It is a sad, but an accepted practice in much of our secular society. Such things are looked at as being OK or good.

One role of Christians is to point to the Truth-that what is being done is not correct. The word "sin" in our secular society-is something many would consider "old fashioned."

Many could care less if we tell them that they "are sinning." We would be told that our religious values are old-fashioned or not in step with modern society or values.

Satan/The Devil or what ever you call "evil" or against God-is active in our society as a force of darkness. It was 2000 years ago-and it is today.

We-no matter what shade of our light-have the light of Christianity to share with a very dark world.

Let us share the Light with love and understanding and hope in helping to bring about a positive change.

"Men (and Women) love darkness rather than Light"

Let us share the Light!

-Carol

Good counsel Carol, thank-you. I always enjoy reading your posts here

Enjoy the day.

Edited July 13, 2008 by VisionOfLehi

[prospectmom]

Below is a link to 246 instances of the word "repent" or "repentance" appearing in the LDS canon. It must be important!

Your taking the word itself out of context.......... No one said repentence isn't important but you have to have and understanding of everything ( The gospel) before you repent.

I just read this from WordFlood on Charity

“The Savior has commanded us to love one another as he has loved us; to clothe ourselves ‘with the bond of charity’ (D&C 88:125), as he so clothed himself. We are called upon to purify our inner feelings, to change our hearts, to make our outward actions and appearance conform to what we say we believe. …

“[B]Those who are filled with the love of Christ do not seek to force others to do better;(“A More Excellent Way,” Ensign, May 1992, 61–63).Inspire instead of force. I like that a lot they inspire others to do better, indeed inspire them to the pursuit of God. We need to extend the hand of friendship. We need to be kinder, more gentle, more forgiving, and slower to anger” .

Here is another one. This is from the Ensign article on The Power of Patience (November 2006).

" First, “charity suffereth long.” That is what patience is all about. Charity “is not easily provoked” is another aspect of this quality, as is charity “beareth all things.” And finally, charity “endureth all things” is certainly an expression of patience (Moroni 7:45). From these defining elements it is evident that without patience gracing our soul, we would be seriously lacking with respect to a Christlike character.

In the Bible Job offers the classic portrait of patience. In the face of losing his vast empire, including his children, Job was able, because of his unfailing faith, to proclaim, “The Lord gave, and the Lord hath taken away; blessed be the name of the Lord.” Through all of his tribulation and pain, “Job sinned not, nor charged God foolishly” (Job 1:21–22).

How often do we hear oppressed souls ask foolishly, “How could God do this to me?” when really they should be praying for strength to “beareth” and “endureth all things.”

The greatest scriptural examples of patience are found in the life of Jesus Christ. His long-suffering and endurance are best demonstrated on that excruciating night in Gethsemane as He uttered, in His atoning agony, “O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt” (Matthew 26:39). He truly suffered and bore and endured all things.

While nailed to the cross on Calvary, Christ continued in His perfect example of patience as He uttered the singular words, “Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do” (Luke 23:34).

I never really realized the connection between Charity and Patience, but it makes perfect sence now. In a way charity is patience! This goes back to judging others. It is true, we judge others without even getting to know them.

I have some extra cardboard.... Would you like me to make you a sign..... REPENT THE END IS NEAR.... that would be as effective as your approach seems to be

[prospectmom]

David A. Bednar, “Steadfast and Immovable, Always Abounding in Good Works,” New Era, Jan 2008, 2–6

Quote:

“Therefore, as many as have come to this, ye know of yourselves are firm and steadfast in the faith, and in the thing wherewith they have been made free” (vv. 7–8; emphasis added).

Please notice the specific steps outlined in these two verses. The first step is (1) belief in the teachings and prophecies of the holy prophets as recorded in the scriptures. Such belief (2) fosters faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. Faith in the Savior leads to (3) repentance. Faith in Christ and repentance bring about (4) the mighty change of heart. As many as have diligently and faithfully followed these steps are (5) firm and steadfast in the faith. That is the Lord’s blueprint for becoming steadfast and immovable. I testify that as we ponder and follow in faith the building blocks described in these verses, we will be strengthened and blessed to become steadfast and immovable.

This article is wonderful. It truly touches on learning the foundations, the basic foundations, and being steadfast and immovable in those foundations of truth. As we do this, these other little "issues" no longer interest us or become a matter of debate. We do things because the Lord has asked. No more, no less.

Quote:

As we become more spiritually mature and increasingly steadfast and immovable, we focus upon and strive to understand the fundamental and foundational doctrines of the restored gospel of Jesus Christ. Disciples who are steadfast and immovable do not become fanatics or extremists, are not overzealous, and are not preoccupied with misguided gospel hobbies.

President Joseph F. Smith emphasized: “We frequently look about us and see people who incline to extremes, who are fanatical. We may be sure that this class of people do not understand the gospel. They have forgotten, if they ever knew, that it is very unwise to take a fragment of truth and treat it as if it were the whole thing” (Gospel Doctrine, 5th ed. [1939], 122).

Let me repeat and reinforce this first great blessing associated with being a steadfast and immovable disciple of the Savior: such a follower of Christ consistently is focused upon and striving to understand the fundamental and foundational doctrines of the restored gospel.

Second, as we become more spiritually mature and increasingly steadfast and immovable, we are less prone to zealous and exaggerated spurts of spirituality followed by extended periods of slackness.

In order to better understand this principle, please consider Aesop’s fable “The Hare and the Tortoise.” After being taunted repeatedly for being slow, the Tortoise challenged the Hare to a race. As the race began, the two started off together. However, the Hare ran rapidly towards the goal and, seeing that he could easily win, lay down and fell asleep a short distance in front of the finish line. The Tortoise maintained a slow but steady and consistent pace toward the finish line. When the Hare awoke from his nap, he started running as fast as he could, only to find that the Tortoise had won the race. The Tortoise is a classic illustration of steadiness and persistence. The Hare, on the other hand, is an example of a “spurter”—one who is given to short bursts of spectacular effort followed by frequent and lengthy periods of rest.

A spurt may appear to be impressive in the short run, but steadiness over time is far more effective, far less dangerous, and produces far better results. Consecutive days of fasting, ultimately, may not be as spiritually edifying as successive months of appropriate fasting and worship on the designated fast Sunday. An attempt to pray one time for several hours likely will not produce the same spiritual results as meaningful morning and evening prayer offered consistently over several weeks. And a single scripture-reading marathon cannot produce the spiritual growth of steady scripture study across many months.

Here is another post I found that supports what I am trying to tell you..................

[justamere10]

I want to thank everyone who participated in this thread. Your comments and those of others have greatly assisted me in coming to a decision to change the focus of my own site, I did that today.

Much appreciated.

Edited July 13, 2008 by VisionOfLehi
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[Still_Small_Voice]

"Jesus’ instructions concerning discipleship involve both substance and sequence: 'If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me' (Luke 9:23)."

"In Proverbs, we read, “For the commandment is a lamp” (Proverbs 6:23). Once darkened, a society loses its capacity to distinguish between right and wrong and the will to declare that some things are wrong per se. Without the lamp, our world finds itself desperately building temporary defenses, drawing new lines, forever falling back, unwilling to confront."

"Any list of our present, personal indulgences is actually an index—but a reverse index to joys—joys we will not experience until we do deny ourselves certain things."

-- Neal A. Maxwell

[justamere10]

Apparently, instead of just ignoring my threads and posts, some people have been complaining to the moderators that I am not contributing anything useful to this board, just "advertising".

It never ceases to amaze me how some people do what they can to criticize others who are using their talents as best they can to do some good. But that's human nature I guess.

Anyway, I'll voluntarily stop writing on this board for a while to help keep peace in the lds.net family, and give the moderators a rest.

I wish board members the very best.