John Kerry On World Safety

[Snow]

Originally posted by Cal@Oct 5 2004, 05:21 PM

Who asked you to put it into a mathematical equation? There is nothing mathematical about it. It is you that chooses to make mathematical equalities out of things that are really, at most, analogous.

Dave. And, actually it is, your argument, if one can call it that is a perfect example of how who logic can be reduced to simple mathmatical statements. Ask PD.

[Ray]

It is a matter of public record that I once took a Philosophy class about the logic of reasoning which was broken down into mathematical formulas.

EVERY relationship can be represented in a mathematical formula.

Can you think of one?

[Jenda]

Originally posted by Ray@Oct 7 2004, 10:08 AM

It is a matter of public record that I once took a Philosophy class about the logic of reasoning which was broken down into mathematical formulas.

EVERY relationship can be represented in a mathematical formula.

Can you think of one?

1 cross + 3 nails = 4given

Is that what you mean? B)

[Ray]

Heh, very cute. :)

And for those who may not get my play on words, I was suggesting that "you" think of what we mean when we say "one" while hoping that people would recall the idea that has been expressed about how God is one.

[Ray]

Oh, btw, I believe the Romans usually used 5 nails when putting someone on a cross.

[Jenda]

Where did they stick the other two?

(I just saw that on a bumper sticker, so thought I'd post it here. )

[Ray]

I changed my previous statement to convey that this is only my belief, and not an actual and indisputable fact. There are some things that I do know for a fact, but this is not one of them.

Anyway, I believe they put one nail in each hand, one nail in each wrist, and one nail somewhere near the feet to hold both of them. In this case the body would have been held on the cross in the manner most people usually think of it being done, with both arms outstretched to the side. One nail in each hand was not considered to be enough support to hold the weight of a person's body.

I changed my statement when the thought occurred to me that perhaps they only used one nail for both hands, one nail for both wrists, and one for both feet, in which case you would be correct in stating that they only used 3 nails. In this case the arms would have been suspended above the person's head, and the 2 nails placed in the right place would usually be enough to hold the person's body up.

And btw, I do know for a fact that they only used one nail to hold both feet to the cross.

[srm]

Originally posted by john doe@Oct 4 2004, 04:23 PM

I'm partly retired from teaching---taught full time for 32 years, now just 4 periods in the morning, my afternoons are taken up with my law practice which I started 5 years ago.

Good to see that you've finally entered the workforce. You know what they say, those who can, do, those who can't, teach.

dem's fightn; words!

srm

Spanish teacher & counselor

[srm]

Originally posted by Cal+Oct 5 2004, 06:25 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cal @ Oct 5 2004, 06:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--john doe@Oct 4 2004, 08:25 PM

a competant teacher is thing valuable and precious resource and that a highly competent and motivating teacher is a thing of beauty.

I agree. The problem is, they are few and far between. Many of them are just punching in their time and counting the days until retirement.

As is true in any profession. People are exposed to more teachers than they are to the daily work of people in other professions so we are more aware of what teachers are doing.

yes, and as adults, their understanding of education and teaching is based on their perception when they were students. They are often clearly clueless of the trials, and work involved in teaching.

[Cal]

Originally posted by srm+Oct 7 2004, 09:59 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (srm @ Oct 7 2004, 09:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Originally posted by -Cal@Oct 5 2004, 06:25 AM

<!--QuoteBegin--john doe@Oct 4 2004, 08:25 PM

a competant teacher is thing valuable and precious resource and that a highly competent and motivating teacher is a thing of beauty.

I agree. The problem is, they are few and far between. Many of them are just punching in their time and counting the days until retirement.

As is true in any profession. People are exposed to more teachers than they are to the daily work of people in other professions so we are more aware of what teachers are doing.

yes, and as adults, their understanding of education and teaching is based on their perception when they were students. They are often clearly clueless of the trials, and work involved in teaching.

Right on, Bro.