Winnie G Posted October 21, 2004 Report Posted October 21, 2004 Bush team denies comment about Iraq casualtieshttp://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/mini...ion2004&no_ads= so does a man like Pat Robertson lie?'' Quote
Guest TheProudDuck Posted October 21, 2004 Report Posted October 21, 2004 Normally, leftists think Pat Robertson is a dishonest, hypocritical religious huckster. When he says something that confirms their prejudices, he's the very model of credibility. Hypocrites. Quote
Winnie G Posted October 21, 2004 Author Report Posted October 21, 2004 Oh come on you don’t find it at lest bit funny. I mean Bush has stated he talks to God. That in its self scares the crap out of me. Quote
Jenda Posted October 21, 2004 Report Posted October 21, 2004 Originally posted by Winnie G@Oct 21 2004, 11:31 AM Oh come on you don’t find it at lest bit funny.I mean Bush has stated he talks to God. That in its self scares the crap out of me. I talk to God all the time. And He answers me. Not always with words, but sometimes. Does that scare you? Quote
Guest TheProudDuck Posted October 21, 2004 Report Posted October 21, 2004 Originally posted by Winnie G@Oct 21 2004, 11:31 AM Oh come on you don’t find it at lest bit funny.I mean Bush has stated he talks to God. That in its self scares the crap out of me. Where, when, and how did President Bush state that he "talks to God?"Or is this another case of galloping along with the left-wing rumor mill? Quote
Outshined Posted October 21, 2004 Report Posted October 21, 2004 I personally doubt that he said it. No leader would talk of invading another country and actually expect to have no casualties. At the very least, some knucklehead would fall off a truck and get hurt, qualifying as a "war casualty", just as hundreds have in this war. You could not have a war with zero casualties, and any leader should recognize that. Quote
Winnie G Posted October 22, 2004 Author Report Posted October 22, 2004 He was quoted by CNN to say God speaks to him way back after 9/11. It freaked my mother out and I thought she heard it wrong and so I watch CNN and Holy hockey pucks he said it! My mothers not in to the whole communication this with god thing. To hear any one who hears God is nuts. Quote
Guest TheProudDuck Posted October 22, 2004 Report Posted October 22, 2004 Originally posted by Winnie G@Oct 22 2004, 08:13 AM He was quoted by CNN to say God speaks to him way back after 9/11.It freaked my mother out and I thought she heard it wrong and so I watch CNN and Holy hockey pucks he said it!My mothers not in to the whole communication this with god thing. To hear any one who hears God is nuts. I'm afraid I never heard that CNN transcript you're talking about. And I can't find any reference to it, even on fever-swamp left-wing websites who have every incentive to portray Bush as a fundamentalist kook -- and yet can't find any statement by Bush that he talks with God. (The one exception is a report in an Israeli paper that a PLO politician said Bush told him God told him to strike al-Qaeda, which isn't exactly a credible source.) Quote
Winnie G Posted October 22, 2004 Author Report Posted October 22, 2004 I cant tell you were and when it was right after 9/11 my mother calls me and rants on about it. Knowing my mother is 78 makes me wonder if she heard it right so I turned on CNN and there it was, OM Gosh I called mom back and tried to comfort her that Bush is not hearing things Yada yada yada. Take my word for it I don’t lie and it was at the time when I am sure Americans were comforted by it. Every one but my mom. Quote
Guest SouthernBelle Posted October 22, 2004 Report Posted October 22, 2004 I do not know of Bush stating he talked to God after 9/11 but I do know that in the debate they asked him about his faith. And I am unsure of the exact words but he said he was a man of faith and that he did pray to God and that was the glory of this country is that he could do that. Now I am unsure as to why it would scare people that the man running our country prays and relies on God for answers. because that is something we should all be doing! It is actually calming to think that there is a polotician out there that still believes in God! And if God can answer our prays why not Bush's! Quote
Snow Posted October 23, 2004 Report Posted October 23, 2004 Originally posted by TheProudDuck@Oct 21 2004, 11:24 AM Normally, leftists think Pat Robertson is a dishonest, hypocritical religious huckster. I agree with you if by "leftists" you mean "people with an IQ greater than that of swamp grass." Quote
Guest TheProudDuck Posted October 23, 2004 Report Posted October 23, 2004 Un -- I'm not defending Pat Robertson. I think he's a smarmy, thoughtless religious huckster with an exaggerated sense of his own importance. The difference between me and the left-wingers who are buying into Robertson's absurd statement that Bush promised that the Iraq war would be entirely without casualties, is that I think Robertson is the aforementioned smarmy, thoughtless religious huckster even when he says something that my "side" is happy to hear.Snow -- Point taken, although people on the left side of the political spectrum dislike Robertson not only because he's an idiot, but because he's a conservative Christian idiot -- a kind they particularly despise. Un, again:One test of a cult is that it often does not strictly teach that Jesus is the only begotten Son of God who HImself is God manifested in the fleshSee above characterization of Robertson as thoughtless. (Maybe I should have said "mindless.") Mormonism does strictly teach exactly that. Robertson needs to revise his "cult" list. Or he could just get a life and a real job.Winnie -- I'm not saying you're lying, I'm saying you're probably reading too much into an innocuous, general comment. A lot of people are angry that President Bush refers at all to God in his public speeches, and twist that into some kind of kooky idea that Bush thinks God to him "as a man speaks to his friend." I've never heard anything from President Bush that suggests he thinks that. I do think he prays for guidance, and is faithful enough to believe that he may receive what he asks for. Abraham Lincoln spoke of having confidence in the right, "as God gives us to see the right." What a kook that Lincoln was. He might as well have said God came down in a burning bush and told him to appoint Grant to smite the idolatrous South. (See how things get twisted?) Quote
john doe Posted October 23, 2004 Report Posted October 23, 2004 Yeah, you can't trust anyone who believes in God anymore. Quote
Faerie Posted October 26, 2004 Report Posted October 26, 2004 cult\Cult\ (k?lt) n .[F. culte, L. cultus care, culture, fr. colere to cultivate. Cf. Cultus.] 1. Attentive care; homage; worship.Every one is convinced of the reality of a better self, and of. thecult or homage which is due to it. --Shaftesbury.2. A system of religious belief and worship.That which was the religion of Moses is the ceremonial or cult of the religion of Christ. --Coleridge.so big deal, we're a cult...ooooooh i'm scared!!! Quote
Guest TheProudDuck Posted October 26, 2004 Report Posted October 26, 2004 Originally posted by Unorthodox+Oct 25 2004, 05:50 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Unorthodox @ Oct 25 2004, 05:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Faerie@Oct 25 2004, 06:37 PM cult\Cult\ (k?lt) n .[F. culte, L. cultus care, culture, fr. colere to cultivate. Cf. Cultus.] 1. Attentive care; homage; worship.Every one is convinced of the reality of a better self, and of. thecult or homage which is due to it. --Shaftesbury.2. A system of religious belief and worship.That which was the religion of Moses is the ceremonial or cult of the religion of Christ. --Coleridge.so big deal, we're a cult...ooooooh i'm scared!!! I don't think they use that definition. I think they use this one:A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader. How would you feel about a political candidate if his church had officially labelled the LDS Church a cult by that definition? I'd be surprised if the Methodists had officially labeled the LDS a cult. If so, they can kiss my open hearted, open minded [unmentionable]. Quote
Faerie Posted October 26, 2004 Report Posted October 26, 2004 considering he's the PRESIDENT and not the religious leader of the nation, i couldn't care less...President Bush doesn't treat Mormons as cultists...or maybe he's hiding his real feelings when he gave Pres. Hinckley that nice medal or whatever it was... I don't care about the president's or kerry's personal religious beliefs as I fully support seperation of church and state and said religious beliefs do not (or should not) impact my freedom... President could be Muslim and I wouldn't bat an eye over it... Quote
Jenda Posted October 26, 2004 Report Posted October 26, 2004 Originally posted by Faerie@Oct 25 2004, 07:42 PM President could be Muslim and I wouldn't bat an eye over it... Do you ever wonder whether Muslim extremists moniter discussion boards? Quote
Faerie Posted October 26, 2004 Report Posted October 26, 2004 I've found here in the south that a LOT of churches label us all sorts of things, but their followers don't always agree or go along with those labels.. again, even if a president belongs to a church that labels us cultists, it'd be a cold day in jamaica before that'd monumentally impacted our church president: i don't like those mormons, those cultists!! i'm gonna punish them by..by..by.. what? what in the world could an anti-mormon president possibly do to the LDS church? john kerry belongs to a religion that teaches that Invitro Fertilization is an abomination as well as all forms of abortion, should I start worrying that if he becomes the next president that infertility clinics around the country will be forced to shut down and RvW will automatically be dismissed? nope Quote
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