Seven Times - Daniel 4: 23,25,32

[TheAngelPalmoni]

I don't know how I am going to say what I want to say but Here I go. Time is an amazing topic throughout the scriptures. The prophets always seem to be aware the there is a limited and numbered amount of time left. They see the grand scale of time in relation to earth and they see where they are and how long is left. Some of them record these experiences in the scriptures in pretty complicated wording. We have to use the spirit when understanding these things. 2300 days, a times time and a halve a time, a season, a little season, seven times, seven times seven times seventy, 1290 days, 1335 days, forty two months, forty days, forty years, 70 years, are all pieces to a very big puzzle.

We know there are Seven Seals all representing a Thousand Year Time Period. We know there are significant times prophesied about in the Scriptures, Birth of Christ, Apostasy, Restoration, Restoring Sealing Keys, Building New Jerusalem, and a whole lot of End Time Stuff leading to the Millennium. You can set the Size and Scene of the Puzzle then you just need to start plugging Pieces in.

Daniel 12: 11-13, is a huge mystery is it not? Why? It even gives us the starting point which is good. From the time that the Daily Sacrifice shall be taken away? When did that happen? I'll give you a hint, creeds and councils. During the apostasy there was a time when the leaders of the church got together and implemented the doctrine of Grace over and instead of personal Repentance and the Sacrament. They did away with the daily sacrifice. That was in The Second Council of Orange in 530 AD. That is the Starting Point. So from there we add 1290 days. How long is that? Well Ezekiel 4:6 I have appointed thee each day for a year. This is a Key... So we just add years. 530+1290 = 1820 AD now if someone from a different Religion came to this date would it matter at all? Should it matter to us? I hope so. But that isn't all, if we keep going from that date we can find the End of the Days. 1820+1335 = 3155 AD This is the End of the Millennium and the end of the Little Season which Satan is Loosed again. It is the End of the Days! This is cool because if it is right... then it also gives us a starting point for time 7000 years is the big picture, so 3846 BC.

Seven times, this is the period of time between the time Last when the Kingdom of God was in force until the next time the Kingdom of God will be in Force. The Kingdom of God is a time when the Church had both Temporal and Spiritual Power working together. So the King and Prophet work together. The last time in history when this happened was 546 BC. The next time in History when this will happen is when the New Jerusalem is established because within those walls the Church will have both of those powers, The Band of Brass and of Iron. Well we need to calculate Seven Times how Long is One Time? Without going into a history lesson Daniel 11:24-25 is the war on Paganism which began 29AD and ended at the Battle of Frigidus River. So a Time is 365 years which is like a Year in Years. If we use that measure of time...

All the Research is on this drawing:

Palmoni Scrolls

It takes us to Dec 23rd 2011, that is the furthest date to which the prophecy of the New Jerusalem can come to pass.

Daniel 2:21-22

And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding:

He revealeth the deep and secret things: he knoweth what is in the darkness, and the light dwelleth with him.

Let me know if you want me to go though the Seven Seals

~Angel Palmoni~

[TheAngelPalmoni]

Do you think that this could work?

[Vort]

I don't know how I am going to say what I want to say but Here I go. Time is an amazing topic throughout the scriptures. The prophets always seem to be aware the there is a limited and numbered amount of time left. They see the grand scale of time in relation to earth and they see where they are and how long is left. Some of them record these experiences in the scriptures in pretty complicated wording. We have to use the spirit when understanding these things. 2300 days, a times time and a halve a time, a season, a little season, seven times, seven times seven times seventy, 1290 days, 1335 days, forty two months, forty days, forty years, 70 years, are all pieces to a very big puzzle.

I disagree. The scriptures are not a grand puzzle, waiting for some sufficiently smart person to put the pieces together and reveal the whole picture. Such is the thinking that inspires people like John Pratt, an otherwise intelligent man who spends his time involved in outlandish exegesis, numerology, and astrology.

Here's a clue: Whenever you're critically reading a scriptural text and start analyzing the underlying patterns and meanings of specific numbers and number sequences, and especially whenever you're reading prophecy and trying to work out specific dates, there is a very high chance you're venturing into crackpot territory.

[TheAngelPalmoni]

It's not a pattern, I'm not especially smart, I didn't figure out the answer it's in the scriptures. Ya I've always thought the same way except why are the scriptures there? We can know what they mean? Can't we? Well what do they mean then? And why are they there? It mean calculating the Exact Date of the Millennium is Crackpot Territory I agree, but I'm not doing or saying that at all. Why can't we as followers of Christ look into the scriptures just as they did in the past and see the signs and dates just as they did to know the birth of the Savior. These things will not take us by surprise D&C 106:4-5

It is only a greater testimony of truth and of how amazing this plan really is...

[TheAngelPalmoni]

I thought this would be a little more controversial.

[Hemidakota]

I don't know how I am going to say what I want to say but Here I go. Time is an amazing topic throughout the scriptures. The prophets always seem to be aware the there is a limited and numbered amount of time left. They see the grand scale of time in relation to earth and they see where they are and how long is left. Some of them record these experiences in the scriptures in pretty complicated wording. We have to use the spirit when understanding these things. 2300 days, a times time and a halve a time, a season, a little season, seven times, seven times seven times seventy, 1290 days, 1335 days, forty two months, forty days, forty years, 70 years, are all pieces to a very big puzzle.

We know there are Seven Seals all representing a Thousand Year Time Period. We know there are significant times prophesied about in the Scriptures, Birth of Christ, Apostasy, Restoration, Restoring Sealing Keys, Building New Jerusalem, and a whole lot of End Time Stuff leading to the Millennium. You can set the Size and Scene of the Puzzle then you just need to start plugging Pieces in.

Daniel 12: 11-13, is a huge mystery is it not? Why? It even gives us the starting point which is good. From the time that the Daily Sacrifice shall be taken away? When did that happen? I'll give you a hint, creeds and councils. During the apostasy there was a time when the leaders of the church got together and implemented the doctrine of Grace over and instead of personal Repentance and the Sacrament. They did away with the daily sacrifice. That was in The Second Council of Orange in 530 AD. That is the Starting Point. So from there we add 1290 days. How long is that? Well Ezekiel 4:6 I have appointed thee each day for a year. This is a Key... So we just add years. 530+1290 = 1820 AD now if someone from a different Religion came to this date would it matter at all? Should it matter to us? I hope so. But that isn't all, if we keep going from that date we can find the End of the Days. 1820+1335 = 3155 AD This is the End of the Millennium and the end of the Little Season which Satan is Loosed again. It is the End of the Days! This is cool because if it is right... then it also gives us a starting point for time 7000 years is the big picture, so 3846 BC.

Seven times, this is the period of time between the time Last when the Kingdom of God was in force until the next time the Kingdom of God will be in Force. The Kingdom of God is a time when the Church had both Temporal and Spiritual Power working together. So the King and Prophet work together. The last time in history when this happened was 546 BC. The next time in History when this will happen is when the New Jerusalem is established because within those walls the Church will have both of those powers, The Band of Brass and of Iron. Well we need to calculate Seven Times how Long is One Time? Without going into a history lesson Daniel 11:24-25 is the war on Paganism which began 29AD and ended at the Battle of Frigidus River. So a Time is 365 years which is like a Year in Years. If we use that measure of time...

All the Research is on this drawing:

Palmoni Scrolls

It takes us to Dec 23rd 2011, that is the furthest date to which the prophecy of the New Jerusalem can come to pass.

Daniel 2:21-22

And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding:

He revealeth the deep and secret things: he knoweth what is in the darkness, and the light dwelleth with him.

Let me know if you want me to go though the Seven Seals

~Angel Palmoni~

I believe the time frame is way to early. Even the end is not 2012 but a "Phoenix will rise out of the ashes and start a new beginning."

[TheAngelPalmoni]

It is not the millennium, that happens way later. 2012 would be the Celebration Year of the Establishment of Zion. I don't know what else happens, some think that Christ will come to the Saints there...

But the time in the scriptures of 2011 is the furthest date that the call to establish Zion will happen.