Sealing Cancellation

[NormalGuy]

Hi,

Newbie here .

Wondering if any of you have had any experience with a widow wanting to cancel the sealing to her deceased husband, so that she can be sealed to her current husband.

[thedreadedbat]

Originally posted by NormalGuy@Oct 9 2005, 12:29 PM

Hi,

Newbie here .

Wondering if any of you have had any experience with a widow wanting to cancel the sealing to her deceased husband, so that she can be sealed to her current husband.

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I believe that requires the approval of the First Presidency.

[NormalGuy]

Originally posted by thedreadedbat@Oct 9 2005, 12:31 PM

I believe that requires the approval of the First Presidency.

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Yes I know, we have been working on this for several years. I am looking for others who have been or are in a similiar situation.

There are a lot of theories and opinions about this, I have already heard all of those.

Just looking for feedback from anyone else who is trying or has tried.

[thedreadedbat]

Originally posted by NormalGuy+Oct 9 2005, 12:36 PM-->

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I believe that requires the approval of the First Presidency.

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Yes I know, we have been working on this for several years. I am looking for others who have been or are in a similiar situation.

There are a lot of theories and opinions about this, I have already heard all of those.

Just looking for feedback from anyone else who is trying or has tried.

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Good luck with that. Here is the official policy of the church regarding this issue:

A living woman may be sealed to only one husband. If she is sealed to a husband and later divorced, she must receive a cancellation of that sealing from the First Presidency before she may be sealed to another man in her lifetime

[thedreadedbat]

Just my opinion, but that would ###### to be the guy in heaven waiting for his wife so they can go rule their own planets, and have his wife on earth not be his eternal companion anymore.

Edit: uhhh, the word suck is filtered?

[thedreadedbat]

I was vacuuming today, but the filter was clogged so it wasn't sucking anything up.

It is necessary that the vacuum ###### for the cleaning to be effective.

I put a new filter on, so the vacuum would ######.

Note to admin:

Add the word "sucking" to the list. It offends me.

[ldsgurl_2002]

lol...rofl!!!!

[NormalGuy]

Originally posted by thedreadedbat@Oct 9 2005, 12:43 PM

Just my opinion, but that would ###### to be the guy in heaven waiting for his wife so they can go rule their own planets, and have his wife on earth not be his eternal companion anymore.

Well then you better take good care of your wife and do all you can to make her happy so if you die, she won't find someone else who can make her life better than what you gave her.

[thedreadedbat]

Originally posted by NormalGuy+Oct 9 2005, 02:39 PM-->

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Just my opinion, but that would ###### to be the guy in heaven waiting for his wife so they can go rule their own planets, and have his wife on earth not be his eternal companion anymore.

Well then you better take good care of your wife and do all you can to make her happy so if you die, she won't find someone else who can make her life better than what you gave her.

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I will try to make her happy so that she doesn't commit spiritual adultery if I die before her. Thank you for the advice.

[Lindy]

Hey Bat, you know I love ya...but this normal guy is trying to be serious here. Have a heart huh?

[NormalGuy]

Originally posted by Lindy@Oct 9 2005, 04:29 PM

Hey Bat, you know I love ya...but this normal guy is trying to be serious here. Have a heart huh?

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Thank you, I was beginning to wonder if this was just a forum for jokesters

[Heather]

I would suggest reading the Anita Stansfield's First Love and Forever series. I think there are 3 or 4 books. The first one is a bit unrealistic to me, but they get a lot better. It is LDS fiction.

[Setheus]

IMO I think that the fact that this widow wants to get Sealed to her current husband shows that she really has no faith or belief that "families are forever" or in the power and authority of her temple ordinances. After all think about it, what she is doing is counter productive. This dead man lived worthily *we assume* and is now loosing what he worked so hard to attain only for his eternal companion bail out on him. I think she's weak. She couldnt make it a mortal life time....how does she seriously expect to last an eternity? What if new hubby dies? She gonna re-seal yet again?

PS I have no serious problem with a man/woman getting married again or dating etc....but re-sealing? Ouch.

[Guest Member_Deleted]

Originally posted by Setheus@Oct 9 2005, 09:47 PM

IMO I think that the fact that this widow wants to get Sealed to her current husband shows that she really has no faith or belief that "families are forever" or in the power and authority of her temple ordinances.  After all think about it, what she is doing is counter productive.  This dead man lived worthily *we assume* and is now loosing what he worked so hard to attain only for his eternal companion bail out on him.  I think she's weak.  She couldnt make it a mortal life time....how does she seriously expect to last an eternity?  What if new hubby dies? She gonna re-seal yet again?

PS I have no serious problem with a man/woman getting married again or dating etc....but re-sealing?  Ouch.

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Interestingly enough I think the guy is better off... he probably has lots of worthy unmarried women up there to become companions with... during the millenium... and when you get over there... if you are worthy you experience such a perfect love that it isn't as rocky as down here...

[Heather]

I think from a woman's point of view this is a very difficult subject. I for one don't know if I could handle "sharing" my husband. And from a liberal standpoint, it doesn't seem right that a man can be sealed to multiple women, but a woman cannot. I may feel different when I reach the other side, but I do feel I'll never be asked to do something that I won't be happy with.

In discussing it with my husband, if something happened to me, I would definitely want him to get remarried when the time is right. I know that he and the children would need that. However, neither he nor I feel comfortable with him marrying someone who hasn't already been sealed to someone else. He would prefer to marry someone who has lost a spouse as well.

The way I feel about it is things will be worked out on the other side in a way that everyone will be happy with the outcome. Something impossible to see now or work out now, but our ways are not God's ways.

I think it's jumping judgment a bit too fast to make assumptions on how the wife feels and how the second husband feels. I know that if I were in that situation and I fell in love again, I would have an extremely difficult time if I believed that in the next life, I would have nothing to do with this person again. As difficult as it is to do, I think that you just have to have faith that God will make it so everything will work out. He wants us to be happy, and if we're faithful in our covenants, he can make sure that we are with the ones we love.

[Setheus]

Originally posted by Heather@Oct 9 2005, 11:40 PM

  I know that if I were in that situation and I fell in love again, I would have an extremely difficult time if I believed that in the next life, I would have nothing to do with this person again.

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What do you all think, that we're going to seperate heavens? You will have "something to do " with everyone there. Its the relationships that will be varied.

And the reason males can have more females and not vice versa....look at lion prides and wolf packs...in a wolf pack only the alpha pair can mait and breed....but they rule for life. And in a lion pride...can you imagine the females trying to run the show? They hyena's would have them dead in a matter of months through attack and stealing their kills. Nature just explains it all so clearly. I'm not being as detailed or clear as I'd like to be but I'm just too sleepy to care LOL LOL

[NormalGuy]

Originally posted by Setheus@Oct 9 2005, 09:47 PM

IMO.....  I think she's weak.  She couldnt make it a mortal life time....how does she seriously expect to last an eternity?  What if new hubby dies? She gonna re-seal yet again?

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You know nothing of the details of this person. I am not asking for your pious, judgemental opinions, please keep them to yourself.

[Guest Member_Deleted]

Originally posted by NormalGuy+Oct 10 2005, 05:22 AM-->

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IMO.....  I think she's weak.  She couldnt make it a mortal life time....how does she seriously expect to last an eternity?  What if new hubby dies? She gonna re-seal yet again?

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You know nothing of the details of this person. I am not asking for your pious, judgemental opinions, please keep them to yourself.

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Woe! I think Setheus is right. Why would anyone marry for time and all eternity and then when that person is gone and has no voice in the matter... go and try to anull that sealing to jump to the next guy???

[Jason]

Since the early LDS church had women married to multiple men (several of Joseph Smith's wives were already married) then why not? Polygamy is both polyamory and polyandry. Who says you can't have your cake and eat it too? B)

[NormalGuy]

Originally posted by Please@Oct 10 2005, 11:06 AM

Woe! I think Setheus is right. Why would anyone marry for time and all eternity and then when that person is gone and has no voice in the matter... go and try to anull that sealing to jump to the next guy???

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Some of the posters on this board seem to have a very limited view of life and the realities associated with relationships.

There could be plenty of valid reasons. Thinks about this. What if the guy went inactive soon after the marriage and treated his wife very poorly. The wife stayed in the marriage hoping things would improve but things only got worse. There is little love or respect in the marriage, certainly no thoughts or desires of building an eternal union.

The husband dies a premature death. The wife later meets a wonderful man who treats her like the special person she is. After living with her second husband for a few years, she realizes that this is the man she wants to spend eternity with, not the slob that she was first sealed to.

What is wrong with this lady wanting to be sealed to someone who is striving to qualify for the celestial kingdom, instead of knowing that she is sealed to a man who showed no interest in an eternal marriage?

[Heather]

Originally posted by Setheus+Oct 10 2005, 01:06 AM-->

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  I know that if I were in that situation and I fell in love again, I would have an extremely difficult time if I believed that in the next life, I would have nothing to do with this person again.

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What do you all think, that we're going to separate heavens? You will have "something to do " with everyone there. Its the relationships that will be varied.

Yes I know. That's why I said "I would have an extremely difficult time if I believed that," which could be what the woman is going through in wanting to have her sealing canceled. What if she married and was sealed to her first husband, and he died a month later? Then she remarried and spent 75 years with her second husband. Don't you think if you were in that situation, you too would be a bit worried that you would spend eternity with someone you can hardly remember? That's why I have said that you need to trust in God that he will make it so everyone is happy.

[Guest Member_Deleted]

Originally posted by NormalGuy+Oct 10 2005, 12:12 PM-->

<!--QuoteBegin-Please@Oct 10 2005, 11:06 AM

Woe! I think Setheus is right. Why would anyone marry for time and all eternity and then when that person is gone and has no voice in the matter... go and try to anull that sealing to jump to the next guy???

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Some of the posters on this board seem to have a very limited view of life and the realities associated with relationships.

There could be plenty of valid reasons. Thinks about this. What if the guy went inactive soon after the marriage and treated his wife very poorly. The wife stayed in the marriage hoping things would improve but things only got worse. There is little love or respect in the marriage, certainly no thoughts or desires of building an eternal union.

The husband dies a premature death. The wife later meets a wonderful man who treats her like the special person she is. After living with her second husband for a few years, she realizes that this is the man she wants to spend eternity with, not the slob that she was first sealed to.

What is wrong with this lady wanting to be sealed to someone who is striving to qualify for the celestial kingdom, instead of knowing that she is sealed to a man who showed no interest in an eternal marriage?

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Well now you are either making up a story to validate her wanting this... or you are just letting us know what really happened... and that should have been given in the first post....

I think you made it up... or that you are the guy wanting this woman...

[NormalGuy]

Originally posted by Please@Oct 10 2005, 12:20 PM

 

Well now you are either making up a story to validate her wanting this... or you are just letting us know what really happened... and that should have been given in the first post....

I think you made it up... or that you are the guy wanting this woman...

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This is what I said in the first post:

"Wondering if any of you have had any experience with a widow wanting to cancel the sealing to her deceased husband, so that she can be sealed to her current husband."

I posted this because I was hoping that maybe someone else who had been through the process could help us understand how it all works.

Next time I will know to say:

"Please keep all of your opinions to your self, as I am not interested in what any of you think."

I am really quite put off by the mentality of posters on this board. Knowing nothing about a situation, they are ready to criticise, judge and condemn a person who is just wanting some information.

You should change the name of this place to LDS Gossip.

I know none of you and I don't want to share any of the details of my life with you. I also don't want you sitting in judgement of me when you know nothing about me.

I don't care to know if you think it is right or wrong. How can you even have an opinion when you know none of the circumstances?

Since no one has said anything about being in the same situtation, I will assume that no one here can help.

I see no reason to ever come back to this board again.

Have a nice day

[StrawberryFields]

Originally posted by NormalGuy+Oct 10 2005, 12:51 PM-->

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Well now you are either making up a story to validate her wanting this... or you are just letting us know what really happened... and that should have been given in the first post.... 

 

I think you made it up... or that you are the guy wanting this woman...  

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This is what I said in the first post:

"Wondering if any of you have had any experience with a widow wanting to cancel the sealing to her deceased husband, so that she can be sealed to her current husband."

I posted this because I was hoping that maybe someone else who had been through the process could help us understand how it all works.

Next time I will know to say:

"Please keep all of your opinions to your self, as I am not interested in what any of you think."

I am really quite put off by the mentality of posters on this board. Knowing nothing about a situation, they are ready to criticise, judge and condemn a person who is just wanting some information.

You should change the name of this place to LDS Gossip.

I know none of you and I don't want to share any of the details of my life with you. I also don't want you sitting in judgement of me when you know nothing about me.

I don't care to know if you think it is right or wrong. How can you even have an opinion when you know none of the circumstances?

Since no one has said anything about being in the same situtation, I will assume that no one here can help.

I see no reason to ever come back to this board again.

Have a nice day

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OH MY GOODNESS

I just stumbled onto this topic. I hope Normal Guy doesn't leave for good.

Just in case he comes back, I would bring up the widow getting sealed to the 2ed man for time only. After she has done that then it will be in the Lords hands as to what will happen in the afterlife.

[shanstress70]

That guy was treated rather harshly by you guys... I'm kind of surprised. He had a very valid point. Message boards can always use new posters, and he was even LDS, supposedly! Normal Guy, I hope you get the answers you need. Since I'm no longer LDS and don't believe in all that sealing business anyway, I can't help you.