Guest Syble Posted January 24, 2006 Report Posted January 24, 2006 <div class='quotemain'> The reason it was discontinued is because of its abuse. It goes without saying but that is completely FALSE. Abuse had nothing to do with it.It was discontinued because it was illegal and the Church faced extreme legal and political hardship. Ultimately the Church faced complete dissolution as a result of the 1887 Edmunds-Tucker Act whereby the Church could have / would have had been disincorportated and had all it's properties, including temples confiscated.You should repent and stop spreading false propoganda.Enclyopedia of Mormonism Article You should stop bossing people around and acting like you are their bishop telling them to repent. And I believe it was never really ended except in the northern Utah area so they could become a state. But there were many other factors you are skimming over to reach your point. The families were not being able to live together anyway because of the arrested fathers and husbands. Then the temples were going to be reposessed. That was absolutely the one thing they could not have happen. The temples were the ultimate cause of all their sacrifices. Polygamy had to come second to the endowing and bringing the people to the knowledge they were destined to live for. That is what caused polygamy to be disbanned openly, but not on the underground. There were practicing polygamous who even went so far as to be excommunicated (Apostle Mathias Calley) to keep his wives and family. Some moved out of the US down to Mexico and still were acknowledged by the church (the Eryings) and others too numerous to mention here. Quote
Outshined Posted January 24, 2006 Report Posted January 24, 2006 Sure, some people still practice it today; they just aren't members of the LDS Church... Quote
Guest Syble Posted January 24, 2006 Report Posted January 24, 2006 Sure, some people still practice it today; they just aren't members of the LDS Church...Not today they aren't , but back then they were. Let me correct that, there is one group or two I know of which are still active members living the law of polygamy undetected. One of my best friends is one. Quote
Snow Posted January 24, 2006 Report Posted January 24, 2006 [ You should stop bossing people around and acting like you are their bishop telling them to repent. You should call your Bishop and repent for bossing me around. Quote
Guest Taoist_Saint Posted January 24, 2006 Report Posted January 24, 2006 The LDS Church will only go back to Polygamy if everyone else does it first. We have seen almost 200 years of change in the LDS Church. Where once it was controlled by radical young men, ready to embrace a completely new concept of the family...it has now evolved into an organization controlled by elderly conservative men, holding on to conservative family values (circa 1950's/Pleasantville). Where once it existed on the fringes of society (much like todays polygamist churches)...today it is almost mainstream...and is continuing to go mainstream. LDS families are looking more and more like ideal American Protestant families (although with unusual dietary restrictions and more children). The trend in America during the 20th Century was the myth of the American Dream, which was embraced by the LDS Church after the end of Polygamy. Now things are changing. Half of America becoming more liberal while the other half is becoming more conservative. If the liberal side wins the cultural war, we might see the legalization of Polygamy. But with the LDS Church safely on the conservative side, they will avoid it until every other conservative Christian accepts it as a reality that we need to live with. When it comes to revelation, it seems the Church is cautious to inquire of God. It took at least a decade after Martin Luther King for the LDS Prophet to receive revelation on the African American Priesthood. I imagine he waited to see if Civil Rights was going to remain popular...if this new revolutionary idea of "equality" would catch on...before asking the Lord for guidance. I predict that the same cautious approach will be used with polygamy. But that is only if radical liberals win the cultural war, which is unlikely the way things are going... Quote
Guest Syble Posted January 24, 2006 Report Posted January 24, 2006 <div class='quotemain'>[ You should stop bossing people around and acting like you are their bishop telling them to repent. You should call your Bishop and repent for bossing me around. Quote
Seraphim Moonshadow Posted January 24, 2006 Report Posted January 24, 2006 <div class='quotemain'>I can see it all now. One woman nagging two men. Still she will have to call the family to home eveing and family prayer. Still she will have to get out and mow the lawn herself. Still she will have to make two very happy in bed~~~~~~~ OH FORGET IT!!!Aww, methinks she could whip 'em into Paul Perfects in no time. LOLHAHAHAHHAHA. That's right! We're supposed to whip men into shape. What shape that is I don't know, possibly Paul Perfect. Quote
Aristotle Posted January 24, 2006 Author Report Posted January 24, 2006 Webster's definition of polygamous: Having more than one wife or husband; having more than one mate at the same time Quote
Snow Posted January 24, 2006 Report Posted January 24, 2006 Webster's definition of polygamous: Having more than one wife or husband; having more than one mate at the same timeBifurcated: 1. Forked or branched into two parts... como la lengüeta de alguien que nos visita demasiado a menudo Quote
Heather Posted January 24, 2006 Report Posted January 24, 2006 Word definition lesson for the bored; whoops, I mean board. No, I was right the first time:Polygny is the condition or practice of having more than one wife at one time.Polygandry is the condition or practice of having more than one husband at one time.Polygamy is a “marriage in which a spouse of either sex may have more than one mate at the same time .”The term plural marriage is used as a synonym for any of the above.The term polyamory refers to an intimate, romantic relationship that involves more than two people - with the full knowledge and consent of all partners involved.Bigamy is “the act of entering into a marriage with one person while still legally married to another.” Quote
shanstress70 Posted January 24, 2006 Report Posted January 24, 2006 Actually it's 'polyandry' that refers to marrying a woman who is already married. Quote
Outshined Posted January 24, 2006 Report Posted January 24, 2006 Polygamy, as was practiced in the early days of the Church, was demeaning and emotionally abusive toward women...which is why women in the latter days will never allow it.Again, thanks for your opinions, but I see you as wrong on at least two of those statements. Polygamy was not "demeaning", or we wouldn't see statements from the women of that period defending it. Of course, I prefer not to criticize God's laws myself. And if "women of the latter days" were all against it, there would be no polygamous sects in the world today... Bear in mind that an opinion means you speak only for yourself, not everyone. Quote
Outshined Posted January 24, 2006 Report Posted January 24, 2006 Not today they aren't , but back then they were. Let me correct that, there is one group or two I know of which are still active members living the law of polygamy undetected. One of my best friends is one. Back then it was law given by God as it was before, then it was removed. What your friend is doing now is no different from adultery in the eyes of the Church; it's not only against LDS doctrines, but it's illegal as well. It's certainly a betrayal of Church trust.I'm not sure I see the point in being a member if you have to sneak around and hide your lifestyle from the Church. Quote
Guest Unorthodox Posted January 25, 2006 Report Posted January 25, 2006 Polygamy was not "demeaning", or we wouldn't see statements from the women of that period defending it. I have heard of women defending it in the 19th Century, but weren't there alot of women opposed to it?I haven't read the book "In Sacred Lonliness", but doesn't it document alot of women's experiences who were not happy with polygamy?Also, wasn't Emma Smith opposed to it, and accepted it under the threat of death?D&C 132:54 And I command mine handmaid, Emma Smith, to abide and cleave unto my servant Joseph, and to none else. But if she will not abide this commandment she shall be destroyed, saith the Lord; for I am the Lord thy God, and will destroy her if she abide not in my law.And then, didn't she stay behind when Brigham Young's sect left for Utah, and support the non-polygamist RLDS? Quote
Outshined Posted January 26, 2006 Report Posted January 26, 2006 <div class='quotemain'>Polygamy was not "demeaning", or we wouldn't see statements from the women of that period defending it. I have heard of women defending it in the 19th Century, but weren't there alot of women opposed to it?I haven't read the book "In Sacred Lonliness", but doesn't it document alot of women's experiences who were not happy with polygamy?Also, wasn't Emma Smith opposed to it, and accepted it under the threat of death?D&C 132:54 And I command mine handmaid, Emma Smith, to abide and cleave unto my servant Joseph, and to none else. But if she will not abide this commandment she shall be destroyed, saith the Lord; for I am the Lord thy God, and will destroy her if she abide not in my law.And then, didn't she stay behind when Brigham Young's sect left for Utah, and support the non-polygamist RLDS?Absolutely; I'd never say they were all happy with it, but it's unquestioned that some were. It's just not black-and-white. Quote
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