What Kind Of Christian Are You?

[shanstress70]

And btw, my answer to your second set of statements should be self-explanatory, but if not you can go ahead and ask God for yourself.

Dear God, Is Ray a prophet?

I got nothing.

Oh wait... something about how no prophet of God would make sexually tinged jokes on another thread about children enjoying abuse.

I'm onto you Ray. You aren't the type of person you pretend to be. For some reason, everyone else seemed to not really care about that whole post, but I'm still trying to figure it out. Did you get my PM the other day? I seriously thought someone hacked your acct, so I let you know about it, but obviously it WAS you, Ray.

Ray in 'Spanking' thread:

"I don’t think we should spank children because they’re too young to enjoy it.

Ba da bump.

But seriously.

I once spanked a child who did seem to enjoy it, because he kept asking for more.

Ba da bump.

Seriously though. I get no respect. No respect I tell you.

Why, when I was a child, I’d had to wait my turn in a corner before getting a spanking.

And not a very good one at that.

But after I talked to my parents, we got it all worked out."

[Ray]

Sexually tinged jokes? Children enjoying abuse?

First of all, why would you associate a spanking with sexuality? I never said anything about sexuality, and I was never thinking anything related to “sexuality”, and you certainly cannot prove I was thinking that way… even though it appears YOU were.

Secondly, I was talking about “spankings”, not “abuse”, so you should use the word “spanking” to avoid suggesting that I was talking about “abuse”, because a child CAN be spanked without being abused. Heh, and if you don’t believe that, I’m sorry, but I have a very nice memory of once being spanked by my Dad, who wouldn’t hurt me, and his love and compassion actually prompted me to be able to talk things out which led to us both growing closer.

And thirdly, I actually said that I think children should NOT be spanked and that children do NOT enjoy it, (and here’s the joke part), because they are too young to enjoy it.

And btw, there was and continues to be a lot of truth in what I was saying, despite the fact that I was trying to be funny, specifically in the statements I made saying:

I don’t think children should be spanked,

Children do not enjoy it, (being spanked)… the joke was in saying that children do not enjoy being spanked because they are too young to enjoy it… and while that may not be the actually reason, it did seem to make a good joke.

I did once spank a child who did seem to enjoy it, (and here’s another joke) because he “kept asking for it”. (and yes, I’m now improving my “more” to “it”, to try to make the joke even better… and btw, in case you’ve never heard the phrase before, I’m referring to a phrase many people use when saying, “you’re asking for it”; and any of us who have had a child who kept insisting on pushing our buttons even after they had been told or warned that they are “headed for trouble” should be able to relate to what I’m talking about.

I did use to stand in the corner as a form of punishment

My parents did “upgrade” my level of punishment to a “spanking”, (and the third joke was in by saying that I was waiting my turn).

The spanking was not a very good one, meaning that it was a not a pleasant experience

My parents and I were able to “work out” our problems when I did talk to them.

Anyway, shanstress, despite what you think, some truth can be told with a joke, and although I am usually quite serious when I talk about important matters, I do occasionally enjoy “lightening up”.

And btw, when you finally do get know me, IF you ever do, you will see that I am a nice (and good) guy.

[shanstress70]

Thanks for the reply, Ray. I suppose I did misunderstand you. I'm just a very protective one when it comes to talking about children, and you have to admit that it sounded kind of wierd.

I know you're a good guy, even if you're a bit thick sometimes.

Another thing that jaded me is the whole Setheus thing. That makes me not so quick to trust what anyone says.

[Ray]

I understand your thoughts better now too, shanstress, and I hope this means we can get back to being better friends.

And btw, while I can totally understand and agree with your reasons for believing we need to be "on guard" with others, I think we all should be very careful to avoid making false judgments... especially in a situation like this when we can't "read" someone's body language or "hear" the tone of their voice.

[prisonchaplain]

Thanks for the reply, Ray. I suppose I did misunderstand you. I'm just a very protective one when it comes to talking about children, and you have to admit that it sounded kind of wierd.

Just as FYI for how things can get read, Shantress, when I first read Ray's joke I saw the same thing you did in the "children enjoying spanking joke." It's just that, I guess like most here who have gotten to know Ray's online persona, we figured he couldn't possibly mean it the way it first read. Sometimes you just have to give people the benefit of the doubt--which is indeed tough when you've been burned.

Bottom-line: Group H ...shaking of hands!

[shanstress70]

I understand your thoughts better now too, shanstress, and I hope this means we can get back to being better friends.

And btw, while I can totally understand and agree with your reasons for believing we need to be "on guard" with others, I think we all should be very careful to avoid making false judgments... especially in a situation like this when we can't "read" someone's body language or "hear" the tone of their voice.

Glad we're 'cool' on that. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I still think it sounds wierd though, honestly. But I trust you when you say that you didn't mean it that way.

Just as FYI for how things can get read, Shantress, when I first read Ray's joke I saw the same thing you did in the "children enjoying spanking joke." It's just that, I guess like most here who have gotten to know Ray's online persona, we figured he couldn't possibly mean it the way it first read.

Which is exactly why I truly thought at first that someone had hacked his account and was posting under his name. I even sent him a 'heads up' e-mail to let him know!

But yes, I'm glad it's all worked out. Thank you all for forgiving me!