Sealings by Proxy

[circusboy01]

I know you can get sealed for a loved one that has passed away to 2 different mates. Example Your mom married and loved your dad. He passed away, and later she married and loved your step dad. You can seal all three of them and it will be up to them to choose.

I know it works when a loved one has passed away, and is later replaced by another loved one.

But does it work if divorce is involved? The reason I ask, is my niece and I will be standing in for my mom pretty soon. When she first married my dad, they loved each other very much. But the love didn't last and they ended up divorced. The same thing happened with my step dad. At first they loved each other very much. But the love faded and they ended up getting a divorce.

Will we be able to seal her to both? Or are double sealings only allowed when one mate has died and is replaced by another mate.

I keep saying mate. Of course I mean husband or wife.

Going to be sealed for my grandma and grandpa too. She was married 3 times, but I have no doubt, what so ever, who she would want to be sealed to.

My niece told me when she did my grand mothers endowments. She could feel her presence.I'd say she was going to accept the gospel.Or else why would her spirit be hanging around for the endowments? How cool is that? Brother Ray

Actually. What I should have said is "She has been found worthy of, and has accepted Baptism."

Edited August 10, 2012 by circusboy01

[georgia2]

Well you ask a somewhat complicated question!

first of all, people should not be sealed to someone they divorced. Why would you want to do that when they didn't even want to be with them here? The only reasonable answer would be that the children want to be sealed to their parents. You can't be sealed to your parents unless they re already sealed. In this case you would seal the biological parents together so that the kids can be linked, but the the parents sealings will be straightened out as to who they REALLY want to be with. You could do all of the other work such as baptisms, annointings and endowments. And not worry about the rest of it. NOw if you know who your grandmother would want to be with, then do that one too.

[circusboy01]

Well you ask a somewhat complicated question!

first of all, people should not be sealed to someone they divorced. Why would you want to do that when they didn't even want to be with them here? The only reasonable answer would be that the children want to be sealed to their parents. You can't be sealed to your parents unless they re already sealed. In this case you would seal the biological parents together so that the kids can be linked, but the the parents sealings will be straightened out as to who they REALLY want to be with. You could do all of the other work such as baptisms, annointings and endowments. And not worry about the rest of it. NOw if you know who your grandmother would want to be with, then do that one too.

I think I understand. I just thought, maybe in the spirit world, they would all remember the love they first had for each other. Now you're saying anybody that has been divorced should not be sealed. But if they were to be sealed it could only be the biological parents. Right? Brother Ray.

[georgia2]

well....... they may remember, but when we go there, we are the exact people we are here!

I'm not an expert but have done extensive genealogy and temple work I also come a from a broken family. We are told that even if we are members here and we can't make the marriage work here we surly won't be together there. Think of it, who would want to be joined to someone FOR ETERNITY that you can't even get along with here! Anyway......... it s not up to us decide these things and when mistakes are made in the earthly work they will be made right there. When you have children from a marriage a sealing needs to be done for the parents in order to seal the kids. Now if one parent lived a righteous life, then the kids are sealed to them. Only those who are worthy will be able to inherit the ultimate prize. I was sealed to my husband and my children. THen divorced. I AM SO GRATEFUL I was sealed to him because I wouldn't be able to have them sealed to me on earth at this time. ANd this is a great comfort to me. Now if Dad straightens his life out he will be able to be sealed to another woman. The kids being sealed to us would I guess be able to visit us whenever they want!

Ultimately, it is not for us to decide so don't get worked up over the the technicalities. Heavenly Father knows all and he wants us to do the best we can,..Then after all we can do, He does the rest!

[circusboy01]

well....... they may remember, but when we go there, we are the exact people we are here!

I'm not an expert but have done extensive genealogy and temple work I also come a from a broken family. We are told that even if we are members here and we can't make the marriage work here we surly won't be together there. Think of it, who would want to be joined to someone FOR ETERNITY that you can't even get along with here! Anyway......... it s not up to us decide these things and when mistakes are made in the earthly work they will be made right there. When you have children from a marriage a sealing needs to be done for the parents in order to seal the kids. Now if one parent lived a righteous life, then the kids are sealed to them. Only those who are worthy will be able to inherit the ultimate prize. I was sealed to my husband and my children. THen divorced. I AM SO GRATEFUL I was sealed to him because I wouldn't be able to have them sealed to me on earth at this time. ANd this is a great comfort to me. Now if Dad straightens his life out he will be able to be sealed to another woman. The kids being sealed to us would I guess be able to visit us whenever they want!

Ultimately, it is not for us to decide so don't get worked up over the the technicalities. Heavenly Father knows all and he wants us to do the best we can,..Then after all we can do, He does the rest!

You say your not an expert. I think you're selling yourself short. Extensive genealogy, and Temple Work, certainly qualifies you in my book. :0)

I'm a little mixed up. Maybe I misread something. In your other post you said We should not have parents that were divorced sealed to each other. Or words to that effect.

In this post you say Parent have to be sealed in order to seal the kids.

So if my parents are not worthy to be sealed than I'm just out of luck?

I have already written off my mom and step dad being sealed But after my mom and dad divorced. They became very close friends. Would that make any difference?

Hope you don't mind me asking these questions.

If you want you can tell me to go ask my Bishop. ;0) Brother Ray

[Martain]

In my family tree I have multiple ancestors who divorced and remarried in addition to those who remarried after a spouse died. It doesn't really matter what the reason were, whether or not they had children or not, whether it was due to divorce or death, we are still to do the work for them.

Can you not imagine the scenario where an ancestor would say, "Although in life I divorced her, I still wait for my descendants to seal me to my first wife. Yes I was happily remarried but that marriage ended when we died and since then my second wife has completely rejected the missionaries and the message of the gospel. My first wife and I have forgiven each other and would love to live as husband and wife if only they would do our work!"

The thing is, barring rare exceptions, we simply do not know the mind and wills of those who have passed away. Generally speaking, we don't know who is worthy and who isn't let alone who is even desirous to receive the work we do for them. Fortunately, we don't need to know =). We simply do the work for everyone that we can assured in the knowledge that this is all that the Lord requires of us.

So, a direct answer - Yes you will be able to seal your mother to both your father and your step father. The specifics of what will happen then will depend on them and the laws of the spirit world (which we have not been given detailed revelation regarding).

[olytitan]

Ask someone at the temple. I don't know "rules" but I have great-great grandparents that were married more than once and they are sealed to both spouses, whether they died, or were divorced....both types of cases, they are sealed. I don't know who did the work, and if there are rules for it or not. I just see what has been already done in my lines by other people. My parents divorced, and while alive I was sealed to my step-father after I was over 18 and had my own endowment. My dad was not active, no chance of me being sealed to him. It was a hard decision for me, feeling like I was leaving him out, but I didn't have the option of being sealed to my biological father. I expect some day many years from now, someone my seal my mom and dad, and me to him. I figure if we are all worthy to be with our Father in Heaven, then it will all work out regardless of who we are sealed to. My Bishop told me during my decision, that it was more important that I had the blessings of being sealed to a parent than to only have my own family sealed to me when I got married. (To me, its the chain that keeps all generations together). That chain is more like a net with marriage and divorce, and I trust that God and the parties involved will know who belongs with who once we leave this life and remember all.