faith4 Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 Thanks.So when you say that the Bishops replaced the Apostles, do you believe that they had/have the same authority as the New Testament Apostles? What's the difference, if any, between Apostles and Bishops?Yes, the Bishops received the same authority from the Apostles themselves, through the laying on of hands, which continues to this day. You can look at 1 Tim 4:14 as one example of authority being conferred from Paul to Timothy. If you study the early Church fathers, you will notice how important their disciplesip lineage is to them, in order to show where their authority derives. One example by St. Irenaeus at the end of the 2nd century states: "that tradition derived from the Apostles, of the very great, the very ancient, and universally known Church founded and organized at Rome by the two most glorious Apostles, Peter and Paul...which comes down to our time by means of the successions of the bishops. For it is a matter of necessity that every Church should agree with this Church, on account of its preeminent authority-that is, the faithful everywhere inasmuch as the apostolic tradition has been preserved continuously by faithful men everywhere". St. Irenaeus then went on to give the history of the papacy up until his own time: "The blessed Apostles, then, having founded and built up the Church, committed into the hands of Linus the office of episcopate. Of this Linus Paul makes mention in the Epistles to Timothy. To him succeeded Anacletus; and after him, in the third place from the Apostles, Clement was allotted the bishopric. This man, as he had seen the blessed Apostles, and had been conversant with them, might be said to have the preaching of the Apostles still echoing in his ears, and their traditions before his eyes...To this Clement there succeeded Evaristus. Alexander followed Evaristus; then, sixth from the Apostles, Sixtus was appointed; after him, Telephorus, who was gloriously martyred; then Hyginus; after him, Pius; then after him, Anicetus. Sorer having succeeded Anicetus, Eleutherius now, in the twelth place from the Apostles, holds the inheritance of the episcopate. In this order, and by this succession, the ecclesiastical tradition from the Apostles, and the preaching of the truth, have come down to us. And this is the most abundant proof that there is one and the same vivifying faith, which has been preserved in the Church from the Apostles until now, and handed down in truth". CHURCH FATHERS: Against Heresies, III.3 (St. Irenaeus)Jesus himself promised that he would be with us always and that the Holy Spirit will guide us: "And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Counselor to be with you forever-the Spirit of truth" Jn. 14:16. "All this I have spoken to you while still with you. But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, Whom the Father will send in My Name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you" Jn 14:25-26."Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, until the end of the age". Matt 28:19-20. "So then you are no longer strangers and sojourners, but you are fellow citizens with the holy ones and members of the household of God, built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the capstone". Eph 2:19-20."For the gifts and the call of God are irrevocable". Rom 11:29. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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