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Anything is possible.

The lady who touched christs garments was healed just by touching...

Others washed themselves in the river jordan? and were healed

Joseph smith healed himself

All things are done by faith.

Also a journey to Alpha-Centauri or interstellar space-travel in a future far away? But woudn't it more depend on science then on faith? And what about a broken arm? Five months ago I broke my arm when I was falling down the stairs. And the arm was cured again by surgery and an implant. And if only it had been faith, I don't know if I would have stood the pains longer than three days.

If really all things are done by faith, why should one torment himself by studying medicine at a university then? ;)

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the Priesthood is the authority of God. then men holding the Prissthood is the tool Heavenly Father uses, The Blessing is not coming from the Priesthood holders its coming from God. Remember its not our will but Gods will. He can heal but only if the person is not appointed to death.Well im sure he can heal them to if the Lord has His reason And It takes Faith on the part of the Priesthood As well as the person whos receiving the blessing. Faith =Power with God all things are possible.

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Also a journey to Alpha-Centauri or interstellar space-travel in a future far away? But woudn't it more depend on science then on faith? And what about a broken arm? Five months ago I broke my arm when I was falling down the stairs. And the arm was cured again by surgery and an implant. And if only it had been faith, I don't know if I would have stood the pains longer than three days.

If really all things are done by faith, why should one torment himself by studying medicine at a university then? ;)

Still you exist by faith, you are still breathing by faith, all things and your current state is due to the current faith you have. The only thing keeping you from going further is lack of faith, and the only thing keeping you from ceasing that progress is faith. Anyways... Lectures on faith explain all of this. Read it.

And you got one thing right, if EVERYONE had exceedingly great faith there would be no need for any of these worldly telestial regemes, buisness, hospitals, etc...

4th nephi is a zion society...

5 And there were great and marvelous works wrought by the disciples of Jesus, insomuch that they did heal the sick, and raise the dead, and cause the lame to walk, and the blind to receive their sight, and the deaf to hear; and all manner of miracles did they work among the children of men; and in nothing did they work miracles save it were in the name of Jesus.

These things don't happen because we lack the faith. If everyone had the faith there would be no need for the lame, death, the ill, or injured.

When Christ appeared to America he said,

3 nephi 17:7 Have ye any that are sick among you? Bring them hither. Have ye any that are lame, or blind, or halt, or maimed, or leprous, or that are withered, or that are deaf, or that are afflicted in any manner? Bring them hither and I will heal them, for I have compassion upon you; my bowels are filled with mercy.

8 For I perceive that ye desire that I should show unto you what I have done unto your brethren at Jerusalem, for I see that your faith is sufficient that I should heal you.

9 And it came to pass that when he had thus spoken, all the multitude, with one accord, did go forth with their sick and their afflicted, and their lame, and with their blind, and with their dumb, and with all them that were afflicted in any manner; and he did heal them every one as they were brought forth unto him.

If we had the same level of faith among hte people we could do the same thing. EVERY one would be healed. But we are sinners who refuse to come unto our lord and savior, for his hands are extended all the days long and we will not receive him. These are those who survived the destruction they were "the more righteous" among the people. Not the wicked or "good" people but more righteous. Ones with great faith.

Lecture Two 55. Let us here observe that after any members of the human family are made acquainted with the important fact that there is a God who has created and does uphold all things, the extent of their knowledge respecting his character and glory will depend upon their diligence and faithfulness in seeking after him, until, like Enoch, the brother of Jared, and Moses, they shall obtain faith in God and power with him to behold him face to face.

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Still you exist by faith, you are still breathing by faith, all things and your current state is due to the current faith you have. The only thing keeping you from going further is lack of faith, and the only thing keeping you from ceasing that progress is faith. Anyways... Lectures on faith explain all of this. Read it.

And you got one thing right, if EVERYONE had exceedingly great faith there would be no need for any of these worldly telestial regemes, buisness, hospitals, etc...

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These things don't happen because we lack the faith. If everyone had the faith there would be no need for the lame, death, the ill, or injured.

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If we had the same level of faith among hte people we could do the same thing. EVERY one would be healed. But we are sinners who refuse to come unto our lord and savior, for his hands are extended all the days long and we will not receive him. These are those who survived the destruction they were "the more righteous" among the people. Not the wicked or "good" people but more righteous. Ones with great faith.

Thanks for your post. But what about all the laws of nature, the fundamental laws of science? Who can switch off the laws of nature? Who can cure worse injuries within seconds without breaking the fundamental ground and laws of nature of this universe, I would say without braking the "rules"? But since I have won some insights by the String Theory and due to my general interest in cosmology, that rises the question what "reality" really means or if it's only an illusion, I almost could go with that and nearly agree with you.

Perhaps it would be helpful when a scientist would say s.th. about the possibility how laws of nature that seem to be incontrovertible today maybe could be exceeded by higher technology or physics? One should consider that a technology far more superior to us could accomplish things which seem actually impossible for us or only understandable from the faith aspect.

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Spiritual gifts are different than having priesthood authority.

Yes, a priest can have spiritual gifts, and through faith and prayer, help heal others.

Can a priest give a priesthood blessing of healing? No, has that ordinance requires the Melchizedek Priesthood.

yes he can, so could a woman faith = power we draw on the power of Priesthood Faith if and when needed. If there is no Melchizedek P.H available God knows whAt we need and loves us all!! You should always try to get priesthood blessing, their might be times when their are no priest around. You then use your faith. THe priesthood blessing is not coming from the man God notices what he is doing and use's the man sees his authrity Gods the one who blesses....

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yes he can, so could a woman faith = power we draw on the power of Priesthood Faith if and when needed. If there is no Melchizedek P.H available God knows whAt we need and loves us all!! You should always try to get priesthood blessing, their might be times when their are no priest around. You then use your faith. THe priesthood blessing is not coming from the man God notices what he is doing and use's the man sees his authrity Gods the one who blesses....

Not quite, let's apply the same logic to the ordinance of confirmation and see if it flies.

Yes, a priest can confirm. So could a woman. Faith = power we draw on the the power of Priesthood. If there's no Melchizedek Priesthood holder available God knows what we need and loves us all!

As Confucius says, that dog don't hunt. The reason why a woman or a priest can heal is because healing is a gift of the spirit, and as such is available to anyone who has received the gift of the Holy Ghost and been granted that specific gift. Applying such a gift is noble and of God. Feigning the priesthood authority to perform an ordinance outside one's authority is dangerous ground to stand on.

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