Dylan Roof arrested in church shooting

[Just_A_Guy]

I'd be more sympathetic if that Fort Sumter affair had never happened.

Edmund Ruffin: "The shedding of blood will serve to change many voters in the hesitating states, from the submission or procrastinating ranks, to the zealous for immediate secession." (Ruffin, a Virginian, was selected to fire one of the first shots on Sumter.)

Roger Pryor (Virginian, to the Confederate government): "If you want us to join you, strike a blow."

The Charleston Mercury: "Border southern states will never join us until we have indicated our power to free ourselves--until we have proven that a garrison of seventy men cannot hold the portal of our commerce. Let us be ready for war. . . . The fate of the Southern Confederacy hangs by the ensign halliards of Fort Sumter."

Jefferson Davis, Feb 16, 1861: "The South is determined to maintain her position, and make all who oppose her smell Southern powder and feel Southern steel."

The Confederacy was recruiting for their slave empire, and again--they were willing to kill to do it from the very beginning.

[David13]

They were willing to kill in defense of what they had done, and thought they had a right to do.  Leave the union.  And the only way it has ever been determined that they did not have the right to leave the union was determined on the battlefield.

dc

[Just_A_Guy]

My gosh, did you read the quotes I provided?

They were willing to kill Northerners in order to persuade thereto-loyal Southern states to secede.

I don't care three figs for the legality of secession. I care very much about the morality in these particular chiseling rats who seceded and then started killing other Americans; in order to preserve their sacred rights to continue brutalizing black men, continue raping black women, and continue selling their own mulatto children into slavery.

Edited June 29, 2015 by Just_A_Guy