Antifamily = anti-Christ

[Guest LiterateParakeet]

Sis. Beck said, "Korihor was an anti-Christ. Anti-Christ is antifamily. Any doctrine or principle our youth hear from the world that is antifamily is also anti-Christ. It’s that clear. If our youth cease to believe in the righteous traditions of their fathers as did the people described in Mosiah 26, if our youth don’t understand their part in the plan, they could be led away."

https://www.lds.org/ensign/2011/03/teaching-the-doctrine-of-the-family?lang=eng

This statement has really made me think.  Since reading it, I've noticed that I see antifamily messages daily.  I can't imagine how confusing this must be for our youth.  I've also thought a lot about what I can do to "stand for family."  I've started by finding and following some pro-family pages on Facebook so that I can read and share pro-family messages.  I've also started discussing these articles/issues with one of my children that I feel is being most effected by it.  

So what are you doing to 'stand for family'?  (that is not meant to be a confrontational question...just looking for ideas).  

Related question, what if anything are you planning to do about the new "rule" that about bathrooms in schools?  (I homeschool, but I'm still concerned about this for the lovely children that I know that are in public school.)  

Edited May 14, 2016 by LiterateParakeet

[zil]

24 minutes ago, LiterateParakeet said:

Related question, what if anything are you planning to do about the new "rule" that about bathrooms in schools?

If I thought it would do an ounce of good, I would write to my various representatives to suggest that they make a law requiring government-funded places to change the labels on the doors so that instead of boys / men or girls / women, they have anatomical labels / names - cuz let's face it, unless you have male genitalia, you are not going to be successful at using a urinal (no matter what you "identify" as).

[Guest LiterateParakeet]

@zil I agree with you.  As a survivor of childhood sexual abuse, I couldn't possibly use a restroom where someone with male genitalia might walk in.  I don't understand why there can't be single occupancy unisex bathrooms for transgender people.  Accept that the real agenda is not about the bathrooms . . .  

[zil]

3 minutes ago, LiterateParakeet said:

I don't understand why there can't be single occupancy unisex bathrooms for transgender people.

What!?  Spend money!?  Are you insane!?  We'll go broke!  Do you have any idea what it costs to build a bathroom!?  We have no  room for more bathrooms!  (That's my simulation of some idiot's reaction.)

Unfortunately, there's a complete lack of clear and rational thinking on this issue, and as usual, all the "tolerance" is intolerant.  I told some friends earlier this week, the older I get, the more glad I am that one day the world will end.

[LeSellers]

2 hours ago, LiterateParakeet said:

 I don't understand why there can't be single occupancy unisex bathrooms for transgender people.

1 hour ago, zil said:

What!?  Spend money!?  Are you insane!?

Why is this idiotic?

Rest rooms, locker rooms, changing rooms, they all do cost money, and money is not free. Where will that money come from?

This is not a victimless crime (and it is a crime). For six millennia, people have managed to be men or women. There hasn't been a lot of pain until people started having too much time on their hand and too little to do.

Well, that and Satan know his time is limited.

Lehi

[NightSG]

11 hours ago, zil said:

let's face it, unless you have male genitalia, you are not going to be successful at using a urinal (no matter what you "identify" as).

http://www.backpacker.com/gear/apparel/trail-clothes/category-womens-apparel/gear-review-female-urination-devices/

There are also techniques that don't require extra tools.  I knew a girl (and yes, personally verified as not having male genitalia) who could match most guys in range and accuracy.

 

[NightSG]

11 hours ago, LiterateParakeet said:

@zil I agree with you.  As a survivor of childhood sexual abuse, I couldn't possibly use a restroom where someone with male genitalia might walk in.  I don't understand why there can't be single occupancy unisex bathrooms for transgender people.  Accept that the real agenda is not about the bathrooms . . .  

Well, unless the door locks, anyone can walk into any bathroom.  I've gotten the wrong one accidentally a few times due to poorly placed signage, and intentionally a few times when the men's room was out of order.  (And yes, there was a note on the door reminding everyone to knock and women to either answer a knock or expect to have a guy in the next stall shortly.)

Edited May 15, 2016 by NightSG

[Guest LiterateParakeet]

Perhaps the anti-family propaganda has become so common that we don't see it anymore.  I know I didn't notice it until recently, and now, just like when you buy a new car, I see it everywhere.  Here's today's example:

Why Not Getting Married Is Smart Economics for Women

http://www.yesmagazine.org/issues/gender-justice/why-not-getting-married-is-smart-economics-for-women-20160512

[LeSellers]

24 minutes ago, LiterateParakeet said:

Perhaps the anti-family propaganda has become so common that we don't see it anymore.  I know I didn't notice it until recently, and now, just like when you buy a new car, I see it everywhere.  Here's today's example:

Why Not Getting Married Is Smart Economics for Women

Every measure in that disinfographic is wrong, wrong, wrong!

Lehi

[Guest LiterateParakeet]

43 minutes ago, LeSellers said:

Every measure in that disinfographic is wrong, wrong, wrong!

Lehi

I agree, and I'm seeing things like this daily.  

[zil]

On 5/14/2016 at 9:39 AM, LeSellers said:

Why is this idiotic?

Rest rooms, locker rooms, changing rooms, they all do cost money, and money is not free. Where will that money come from?

This is not a victimless crime (and it is a crime). For six millennia, people have managed to be men or women. There hasn't been a lot of pain until people started having too much time on their hand and too little to do.

Well, that and Satan know his time is limited.

Lehi

Sorry, it was one of those weekends.  I think we both know enough to agree that there's pretty much no chance you would ever agree with my opinion on the response being idiotic.  Were I to write up everything in my head it would take a very long time and be full of variables and possibilities, all of which would be irrelevant to reality (what happens in this regard won't change based on my thinking).  And I suspect if you wanted to, you could imagine up all the same things.  But in the end, it's just imagined possibilities.  So let's just agree that you think it's not (ever?) an idiotic response, I think there are reasons why it is or at least could be, and leave it at that.

I will clarify, however, that single-occupancy restrooms wouldn't be high on my list of suggested solutions, and unlike what LP wrote, I would not designate any single-occupancy restroom as being for anyone in particular - there's no reason for that - just let it be used by people who want a single-occupancy restroom.  (And yes, it costs money, and yes, the money has to come from somewhere.)

[anatess2]

My son is in an Arts High School.  If there's anything you can say that is unique to Arts Schools it is that there are a lot of LGBT in these schools and they are encouraged to "freely express themselves".  There are 2 kids from our ward who currently attend that school - my son and a girl his age that he grew up with in the ward.  She's a lesbian now.

So, this school is "sensitive" to transgenders waaay before people started talking about restrooms.  And these are usually kids that may think they're transgender - because, you know, it's cool or whatever.   And in that school - if you are transgender (even wanna-be-transgender) everybody knows what your biological gender is.  So a woman-looking transgender walking into a boy's room to use the urinal may get ignored or may be shoo'd out of the restroom and going to the girl's room could also either be ignored or shoo'd out... like the restroom by the dance arts area may be more tolerant than the musical arts area.  They have no problems with this.  LGBT are free to express themselves and the manly-men and womanly-women are just as free to express themselves.  And those who get too uncomfortable in either restrooms have been known to go and use faculty restrooms.  It's been peaceful for the decades this school has been in existence and everybody deals with it just fine.

So... what happened after the bathroom hoopla?  Well, the transgenders (or wanna-be's) and their supporters are now having some goopla where they make a point for girls go to boys restrooms and boys go to girls restrooms in the music arts area causing fighting in restrooms.  The guitarists are having some goopla where they threaten to pee in the bushes in the atrium...   My son and his friends hold the same position as the faculty and PTA... they're just waiting it out hoping it will blow over soon and everything will go back to normal.

 

But then, normal in this school is the Writers Arts Area who run the school publication publish articles such as:  Poll: Which is better - growing up with parents or growing up without parents?  With the conclusion being... tat-tada... 50-50.

Edited May 16, 2016 by anatess2