Objectification Of Women

[a-train]

Elph, it was a joke...

Although we tend to say that the troubles of the world such as pornography are common also in the Church, I think they are so less common that many LDS people are unaware of many facets of these things.

'Pink Elephant Stage' sounds like what a good non-denominational friend used to call 'hyper-spirituality'. This term she used to describe the state of new converts who seemed to be overzealous in the gospel. The condition was sometimes an annoyance to those not-so-newly converted as their zeal was to the point of overbearance and arrogance. The condition would eventually wear off and they many times would at least lapse into some old bad habit or entirely fall away altogether.

Many of those affected by 'hyper-spirituality' would wonder why it wore off and be depressed and confused by their burn-out.

I think the reality is that we get to a point where we think we have overcome a given habit and need not partake of certain protections anymore. It is then without such that we fall back into error.

An example is motorcycle accidents. A motorcyclist is most likely to have an accident in their first year of motorcycling. A significant drop in accidents occurs after that first year. However, a sharp spike up in accidents is visible in the third year. Motorcycle Safety Foundation experts believe the reason for the 3rd year spike is that riders become complacent and overly secure in their abilities and neglect safety precautions previously taken.

I think the logic here can be applied almost universally. We must never give up on this one exalted principle:

SCHEDULED MAINTAINANCE.

-a-train

[Fiannan]

Ah yes, America -- land of the free and home of the victims.

Sometimes a video says it all -- from The Eagles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdaM8mxEBtY

[Elphaba]

Elph, it was a joke...

Although we tend to say that the troubles of the world such as pornography are common also in the Church, I think they are so less common that many LDS people are unaware of many facets of these things.

'Pink Elephant Stage' sounds like what a good non-denominational friend used to call 'hyper-spirituality'. This term she used to describe the state of new converts who seemed to be overzealous in the gospel. The condition was sometimes an annoyance to those not-so-newly converted as their zeal was to the point of overbearance and arrogance. The condition would eventually wear off and they many times would at least lapse into some old bad habit or entirely fall away altogether.

Many of those affected by 'hyper-spirituality' would wonder why it wore off and be depressed and confused by their burn-out.

I think the reality is that we get to a point where we think we have overcome a given habit and need not partake of certain protections anymore. It is then without such that we fall back into error.

An example is motorcycle accidents. A motorcyclist is most likely to have an accident in their first year of motorcycling. A significant drop in accidents occurs after that first year. However, a sharp spike up in accidents is visible in the third year. Motorcycle Safety Foundation experts believe the reason for the 3rd year spike is that riders become complacent and overly secure in their abilities and neglect safety precautions previously taken.

I think the logic here can be applied almost universally. We must never give up on this one exalted principle:

SCHEDULED MAINTAINANCE.

-a-train

Ahhhh. . . . Oooops.

I couldn't agree more.

Elphie

[Snow]

Addiction is a family disease. Typically it starts out in the following manner: 1) the addict admits he needs help and decides to seek treatment; 2) he diligently involves himself in said treatment; 3) the wife and children are so relieved they resume normal activities putting all previous fears and traumas behind them because they know daddy is going to be "cured" this time; 4) that magical day comes when father is "cured," repents, and all is forgiven; and 5) Daddy becomes the model LDS, almost to excess, and the family becomes one of the ward's elite, their trial over with all ramifications loved and repented away forever.

Well, at minimum, we know that you're no pychologist. Typical addiction starts out with steps 1 to 5 with Daddy becoming the model LDS and family one of the ward's elite.

Typical huh?

Seriously, want do you hope to accomplish with such yarn spinning? Beyond pretending to be some sort of authority....

[Elphaba]

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Addiction is a family disease. Typically it starts out in the following manner: 1) the addict admits he needs help and decides to seek treatment; 2) he diligently involves himself in said treatment; 3) the wife and children are so relieved they resume normal activities putting all previous fears and traumas behind them because they know daddy is going to be "cured" this time; 4) that magical day comes when father is "cured," repents, and all is forgiven; and 5) Daddy becomes the model LDS, almost to excess, and the family becomes one of the ward's elite, their trial over with all ramifications loved and repented away forever.

Well, at minimum, we know that you're no pychologist. Typical addiction starts out with steps 1 to 5 with Daddy becoming the model LDS and family one of the ward's elite.

Typical huh?

Seriously, want do you hope to accomplish with such yarn spinning? Beyond pretending to be some sort of authority....

Once again you did not read my entire post, or if you did you did not take the time to read it carefully enough so that you comprehend it.

Until your responses demonstrate you've read and comprehend my posts, I'll not discuss them with you.

Elphaba

[justme15]

Listen, What i wanted to find out, to be straight forward, is this: what are the women of a pornography addict going through. I care about the men and what they are going through but that is not my topic at the moment. I have been through the addiction and know first hand what it does. My desire is to know what the women feel, need and desire. Please stop talking about the men and the addicts and start talking about the people that love them and how they are affected. That is my goal. That is my desire. They need a space as well.

[MsMagnolia]

I am specifically looking for narratives, stories, experiences and feelings of LDS women who find or have found themselves in similar situations.

Justme,

there is a great article in the Ensign from August 2006 entitiled "My Husband's Addiction" it is written by a wife who loved her husband through his addiction. On a more personal note, my marriage was destroyed by my ex's addiction to pornography. He did start treating me differently and he never once told me the truth about his addiction. even after i found his "collection". I will tell you that it has affected the way i trust people. For about three years after my separation I looked at every man with distrust. It was only through the love of my Savior that i became a "whole" person again. I now can begin to trust what people (especially men) say. I can look at myself again and know that I am of worth, not just an object. I will also say that I think most people who have been through this experience are very reticent to talk about it. I felt like i had utterly failed as a wife. My Temple Marraige was supposed to last for Eternity. What in the world happened?

Why couldn't my faith be strong enough to cover my husband's sins as well as mine. those are just some of the thoughts I had. Let me also say that only the Savior can heal the heart and mind of a person who is addicted to pornography and heal the hearts and minds of that person's family. support groups are all good and well but until the addicted person wants to truly REPENT and come unto Christ support groups will do no good.

Just my thoughts,

Mags

[Snow]

Please stop talking about the men and the addicts and start talking about the people that love them and how they are affected. That is my goal. That is my desire. They need a space as well.

Huh?

You don't have to listen/read?

Does the fact that people have conversation that aren't justme15-approved somehow harm the world?