Snow Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 Church group opts out of joining National Day of Prayer eventsJustin Hill THE DAILY HERALDA Utah Valley group of several faiths will not participate in an event through the National Day of Prayer Task Force this year after learning the group doesn't allow LDS Church members to conduct prayer services.For the past three years, the Utah Valley Ministerial Association held prayer services throughout Utah County with the aid of the National Day of Prayer Task Force -- events that included participation from members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and that drew an estimated 500 participants yearly.But Chaplain Linda P. Walton of the Utah Valley State College Interfaith Student Association learned this year that the National Day of Prayer Task Force, which provides resources to some 8,000 volunteers to hold National Day of Prayer events, doesn't allow Latter-day Saints to direct prayer services because they are not considered to be an evangelical church under a declaration agreed upon by representatives of evangelical churches in 1974, known as the Lausanne...http://www.harktheherald.com/modules.php?o...order=0&thold=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFDaw Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 Are these the people that do "Pray at the Pole Wednesdays" in public schools? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgallan Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 Now you well know you shouldn't pray. You worship the wrong Jesus afterall. When will you ever learn..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Starsky Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 Interesting. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFDaw Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 I can't believe that there are people that actually think like this. It's amazing to me really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenda Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 Originally posted by AFDaw@May 4 2004, 11:10 AM I can't believe that there are people that actually think like this. It's amazing to me really. Didn't your foray on ChristianForums teach you anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest curvette Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 Maybe I didn't read the article closely enough. It sounded like it doesn't exclude LDS people from praying, just from conducting the service. I don't see a problem with this. I think this type of organizational "discrimination" exists in our church too. I couldn't conduct a Sacrament meeting if I wanted to, but I can attend it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 Originally posted by AFDaw@May 4 2004, 12:10 PM I can't believe that there are people that actually think like this. It's amazing to me really. I'm considering that what you are thinking is pretty much what they are thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFDaw Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 Originally posted by Rodney+May 4 2004, 12:06 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Rodney @ May 4 2004, 12:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--AFDaw@May 4 2004, 12:10 PM I can't believe that there are people that actually think like this. It's amazing to me really. I'm considering that what you are thinking is pretty much what they are thinking. Consider away Rod man.Hey Curvette, I have a problem with the reason WHY though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 Originally posted by AFDaw@May 4 2004, 01:10 PM ...I have a problem with the reason WHY though. I'm sorry to hear about your problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 Ever notice how there are some people who just won't allow you to be civil with them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest curvette Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 Originally posted by AFDaw@May 4 2004, 12:10 PM Hey Curvette, I have a problem with the reason WHY though. You mean because we aren't "Christian" enough for them? It does seem dumb to tell someone who obviously believes in Christ that they aren't Christian. Every organization has membership criteria though. I think the world would be such a nicer place if religions focused more on our common goals and the things that unite us than the differences in our beliefs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenda Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 Well, at least the thrust of the article is a step in the right direction. People are pulling out of the program because of their discriminatory actions. Sounds good to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFDaw Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 Originally posted by curvette+May 4 2004, 01:21 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (curvette @ May 4 2004, 01:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--AFDaw@May 4 2004, 12:10 PM Hey Curvette, I have a problem with the reason WHY though. You mean because we aren't "Christian" enough for them? It does seem dumb to tell someone who obviously believes in Christ that they aren't Christian. Every organization has membership criteria though. I think the world would be such a nicer place if religions focused more on our common goals and the things that unite us than the differences in our beliefs. Right. The whole purpose was to recognize National Prayer Day, at least that's what they say, yet they want to limit who participates in National Prayer Day, under their name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 Originally posted by curvette@May 4 2004, 02:21 PM ...I think the world would be such a nicer place if religions focused more on our common goals and the things that unite us than the differences in our beliefs. Yes, isn't it a crying shame? Maybe if it weren't such a lucrative business that dream might have a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest curvette Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 Originally posted by Rodney+May 4 2004, 03:03 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Rodney @ May 4 2004, 03:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--curvette@May 4 2004, 02:21 PM ...I think the world would be such a nicer place if religions focused more on our common goals and the things that unite us than the differences in our beliefs. Yes, isn't it a crying shame? Maybe if it weren't such a lucrative business that dream might have a chance. What? You mean we can't serve God and Mammon both? (that concept sounds familiar...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Posted May 5, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 Originally posted by curvette@May 4 2004, 12:00 PM Maybe I didn't read the article closely enough. It sounded like it doesn't exclude LDS people from praying, just from conducting the service. I don't see a problem with this. I think this type of organizational "discrimination" exists in our church too. I couldn't conduct a Sacrament meeting if I wanted to, but I can attend it. Come now Curvette, that's not the issue. We are not talking about the Lutheran Church disallowing Catholic from conducting their service. It's not a denominational service. It is an interdenominational sevice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest curvette Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 Originally posted by Snow+May 4 2004, 09:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Snow @ May 4 2004, 09:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--curvette@May 4 2004, 12:00 PM Maybe I didn't read the article closely enough. It sounded like it doesn't exclude LDS people from praying, just from conducting the service. I don't see a problem with this. I think this type of organizational "discrimination" exists in our church too. I couldn't conduct a Sacrament meeting if I wanted to, but I can attend it. Come now Curvette, that's not the issue. We are not talking about the Lutheran Church disallowing Catholic from conducting their service. It's not a denominational service. It is an interdenominational sevice. I know, and I think it's a ridiculous policy. It's an interdenominational group that has defined an acceptable Christian as something that our church members don't meet the criteria for. I don't like it either, but it is still an organization which consists of several smaller organizations and we don't qualify. It's stupid, but not illegal. I am glad to see that people are recognizing the discrimination by walking away. Progress always takes time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ammon Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 Originally posted by Snow@May 4 2004, 09:37 AM Church group opts out of joining National Day of Prayer eventsJustin Hill THE DAILY HERALDA Utah Valley group of several faiths will not participate in an event through the National Day of Prayer Task Force this year after learning the group doesn't allow LDS Church members to conduct prayer services.For the past three years, the Utah Valley Ministerial Association held prayer services throughout Utah County with the aid of the National Day of Prayer Task Force -- events that included participation from members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and that drew an estimated 500 participants yearly.But Chaplain Linda P. Walton of the Utah Valley State College Interfaith Student Association learned this year that the National Day of Prayer Task Force, which provides resources to some 8,000 volunteers to hold National Day of Prayer events, doesn't allow Latter-day Saints to direct prayer services because they are not considered to be an evangelical church under a declaration agreed upon by representatives of evangelical churches in 1974, known as the Lausanne...http://www.harktheherald.com/modules.php?o...order=0&thold=0 Good for those groups for boycotting that discriminatory event!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Posted May 6, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2004 Originally posted by curvette@May 4 2004, 04:15 PM What? You mean we can't serve God and Mammon both? (that concept sounds familiar...) The better question is, why would I want to serve Ammon? He doesn't even like me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest curvette Posted May 6, 2004 Report Share Posted May 6, 2004 Originally posted by Snow+May 6 2004, 03:09 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Snow @ May 6 2004, 03:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--curvette@May 4 2004, 04:15 PM What? You mean we can't serve God and Mammon both? (that concept sounds familiar...) The better question is, why would I want to serve Ammon? He doesn't even like me. Of course he doesn't like you after you flew his jockstrap up the flagpole in 8th grade! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 Originally posted by Snow@May 6 2004, 04:09 PM The better question is, why would I want to serve Ammon? Oh, I dunno. Perhaps with a bottle of Chianti and some fava beans, he wouldn't taste half bad... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Posted May 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 http://www.news-journalonline.com/NewsJour...OPN82050804.htmDon't tell me, let me guess - it's the evangelicals behind it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Posted May 11, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2004 More specifically, Dr. James Dobson of Focus on the Family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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