The Lords Prayer

[HaggisShuu]

To provide some additional context to what informed my world view.

I always imagined the passaged a shared at the start of this thread, as extremely relevant to this one:

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5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

I always connected the "Vain" part of vain repetitions to this, and the use of the word "Heathens" to Pagan worship of the time. 
 

That is to say, this Lords prayer being a case of "pray like the best, not the rest" and thus not falling into the category of Vain repetitions. 

[DurangoUT01]

I love The Lord’s Prayer.

We recited it every morning in elementary school in GA in the early 70’s.

Repetitions in prayers is only “wrong” if the repetitions are VAIN (not humble, w/o believe it will be effective, lack of respect for HF). For example, I see nothing wrong w repeatedly asking Our Father to bless my children and do so every time I personally pray.

Now onto the real reason for my post…Consider that The Savior gave His prayer in a sacred setting (at a temple and on a mount).    He gave it in the context of covenant making.  He gave it while giving the higher law.  He gave it to his close followers not to the populace.  He gave it to those accepting the law of obedience, sacrifice, the gospel, chastity and consecration.  He was surrounded by His believers.  Finally He wasn’t  telling them to repeat the prayer later..He was saying repeat it now (i.e. repeat after me).

It couldn’t it be any more obvious.  What we call The Lord’s Prayer is really The True Order of Prayer as demonstrated by The Master.

I love The Lord’s Prayer.

[laronius]

14 hours ago, DurangoUT01 said:

 

It couldn’t it be any more obvious.  What we call The Lord’s Prayer is really The True Order of Prayer as demonstrated by The Master.

3 Nephi 19:24 And it came to pass that when Jesus had thus prayed unto the Father, he came unto his disciples, and behold, they did still continue, without ceasing, to pray unto him; and they did not multiply many words, for it was given unto them what they should pray, and they were filled with desire.

Learning to allow God, through the Spirit, direct us in our prayers is the ultimate form of prayer. That's not to say expressing our own thoughts and feelings is unproductive but if our goal is to unify our will with God's, we can't hope for anything more than to have it given unto us what to pray for.

[HaggisShuu]

On 3/3/2025 at 11:03 PM, zil2 said:

Apparently that wasn't final either.  Something I listened to yesterday has gotten me thinking about praise and worship, and in that light, I am rather liking the "hallowed be thy name" part - we don't do enough of that (praise and worship) even in our prayers, nevermind the rest of our religious services - it's all indirect or implied - only hymns (and only some of them) are explicit, stand-alone praise and worship.  This is me experiencing some "holy envy" and starting on the path of "how to I add praise and worship to prayers, talks, and lessons?".

I happened across this verse today:

Isaiah 27:5

"Or let him take hold of my strength, that he may make peace with me; and he shall make peace with me." 
 

I wonder how many more issues I will be able to resolve by simply acknowledging Heavenly Fathers role a bit more, as this verse suggests.