Kolob

Thank you all for your input, I apreciate each of your replies, and take each advice to heart. My eyes are on my missioin. my Heart as well .

This^ Just remember O.P. This part of marriage is just as sacred as any other, it's not wrong. As long as afterwords your still worthy of wearing the sacred endowments then the lord will be happy and so will your marriage.

Of course nobody wears them 24/7 unless you don't shower. But yes Always to be worn unless they MUST be removed. What does "must" mean? I just think that requires a little bit of common sense. Swimming, doctors visits, having sex. etc etc etc... Personally, I'd just think any question about this is best directed at a bishop, someone with the authority to tell you what gods will is whit garments and other activities such as sexual.

For me I think what my own parents could have done better, is to have communicated with me every single thing they know about being chaste at an age early enough to help prevent any of it. Examples from parents are very strong. Habit forming house rules can help as well. Things kids watch on the television can lead to thing on other type of media. Limit the internet usage at your home. Also the location of your computer should be somewhere where one is never alone. Pray with your children. Support them in their church activities. Take and read advice/talks from Church Authorities. Always have faith, and never give up on your kids if they should be led astray by the adversary. You won't be able to control each minute of each day, what with school and other things, but the correct teachings of the gospels stand on whate truly chaste is, will better protect them. Remind your kids of the verses in Ephesians 6 about wearing the whole armor of god. Remind them that while in school or alone with friends (preferably never allow this) that they are never alone to say no. 1 with god on his side is the majority always. Lastly I'd like to say simply. LOVE THEM! I mean with all your ability. Good luck in your parenting, remember the best and most true of all answers come from our heavenly father through prayer, he answers through your leaders, and the spirit. Listen to them.

I wasn't really offended. I over reacted though. I need to realize that others have different tempers, and attitudes towards the things we all know. I'm not easily offended though, I really don't like any negative thing. I should understand thought that the world is full of negatives, it's up to me to stay poitive. :)

About 3 months ago I met an amazing girl on a dating site. I had repented of my past, and was going through the process with my branch president to see on wether or not i'd be allowed to serve a mission because of some of the things I repented for. I'm not just waiting for my branch president to get back to send in our letters that the misison department required of me. then i'll just be waiting for a yes or a no. Anyway I met this girl and we started talking and getting to know eachother. Sorry if any of this information is out of order or confusing. I am from SLC she is from California but was studying at BYU Idaho up until a week ago. During the 3 months we got to know each other and really began to like eachother, and fall for one another. We told eachother about everything in our pasts, it turned out she had had a similar past as mine, and had also repented. It was great! She even came down to visit me in utah one day when she was going to fly out to her family in california for the 4th of july, and we finally met. We had an amazing night, I couldn't stop smiling, she is just so beautiful to me, she kept smiling too. We had a few gentle kisses at the very end before she left for the night as I gave her her favorite flowers. Then like night and day, when she went to california she told me she was gonna tell her mom about me. After she did she started acting weird and distant. I asked several times what was wrong and she said she was just scared and didn't want to hurt me. So we were just gonna be friends. When she finally got back to utah to drive back to idaho. We had had plans to meet up again before she went to california, but all the sudden she said that she couldn't... i felt like they were excuses, bcause she hadn't liked me in person. But she assured me it wasn't that. Finally when she got back to idaho she changed her mind, because I told her she wouldn't hurt me. I told her that if I went on my mission, we'd stay friends then if she was single when I got back and she was still interested we could continue on. This calmed her enough to go back to talking how we were. This lasted for about another month and things were great. We would flirt and be cute all the time. Even about a day before her trip back to California because of the end of semester she wrote me a letter telling me that I had changed her life in such amazing ways, that i was the perfect guy for her, that she could see herself growing old with me, and she could see herself having an eternal family with me etc... She told me that I had strengthened her so much spiritually given her good habits. And she even said this " Baby, I promise i'm going to be more devoted to you soon" because she hadn't been able to lately because of her finals. Then when she got To california. Everything changed back to how it was. And i'm just so confused as to why. She wont even respond to any type of communication really anymore. Every so often when I get worried and ask if she's ok. She just says yeah i'm sorry just really busy. But I mean no matter how busy she was before she'd at very least text me right before she'd go to sleep. It got to the point where I felt like she really had changed her mind on me, and didn't wanna hurt my feelings by telling me hey it's over. That's what i feel actually now. but it got to the point where I gave her of choice of staying how we were, or just friends, she said friends then she said no wait how we were. Then when I asked are you sure. she said just friends. I was ok with that because i understood that things could be really chaotic for her right now to be more then friends. But she doesn't talk to me anymore. I have a feeling it was something I said. Maybe about my brother meeting a girl and getting moving to denver to get married in a month and a half. I think this might have freaked her out some how. But there is no way of knowing because she wont really talk to me. It's usually just sorry i miss you. then nothing for days. She told me she still cares about me, and that it isn't good bye. BUT... she's not acting like it. What do i do? What's she really thinking? I'm so alone without her. in a way that nobody can fill.

I'm actually not staying. I didn't know there would be so many members in here with the spirit of contention. I don't like being around negative argumentative people. I think it is harmful for people that are looking for advice to look into their question thread and see certain people just being argumentative about everything. Maybe it's because i've been in SLC my whole life. But i've never been part of any church activity where there is that attitude present. I feel it doesn't welcome the spirit. I know nobody is perfect. but I'm leaving just because i don't like the spirit of contention or people who feel they have to argue any point. I joined thinking i'd find peacful people giving advice or anything here with love. A good spirit. Good luck everyone.

Oh hmm Sorry, Maybe I shouldn't post here. I just don't like feeling bad vibes, or too much contention when the subject at matter is helping one another and repentance. I had the wrong idea about these forums. I know everyone has different ways of thinking, i just thought discussions here would be with a good spirit, not so much the way it is.

Yeah I agree I wasn't saying he shouldn't stop sinning until he's ready. I said he sould repent only when he feels truly ready. What do I mean by this. I personally don't think you should go repent while still sinning. I think the repentance bears more fruit when the person goes already having abandoned sin. That's just my personal opinion. Ask your bishop alll this. Nobody here can tell you what the lords will is for you other then those called to do so. Good luck!

Read my other post. I really feel a bad spirit coming off of your posts. I don't know what's wrong in your life. But I don't feel the spirit is the one inspiring you to be argumentative and put other peoples advice down.

I'm sorry brother but I will not contend with you. I've seen several of your posts, and Idk what your life situation is right now, or what sort of day you had. But it seems to me you have the spirit of contention. Your only trying to disprove peoples advice, and make arguments. Brother I hope you don't take offense to any of this. I just wont be contending here. I'm only here to chat with other saints and help others out. Never to discredit anyone. Or make them feel less in any way. Again sorry if this will offend you, it is not my intentions.

He said he's 17. That's how I know he's not an elder yet. By severely punished I mean excomunicated I thought were here to help not contend with one another. Remember the spirit of contention is of the devil. I don't want to argue. I don't know why you say that is horrible advice? If your not ready and you go repent, then a week later fall back into sin it's gonna become harder to stop each time. Being ready I mean know for sure that your ready and have left the sins in the past.

No no no I don't mean alone as in not talked to the bishop and repented I mean I was able to over come it on my own without books or therapy or anything like that. When I repented I had already completely left all that behind and had been completely clean and sitll am. But I see what you thought i said.

Yeah go repent, but only if your sure your ready to do so. Your bishop will tell no one. There will be guidlines that your bishop follows in order to carry out the repentance process completely. May take days, even months. But I don't think you'll be severely punished. Because your not an elder yet therefore the oath and covenant of the priesthood isn't over you yet.

Somethings don't have to be spelled out. Just remember one thing. The word of wisdom requires you to make wise choices. If you question anything at all ask the lord. Or more directly your bishop or branch president. But usually if you have to ask it's usually because the spirit is making you feel like it might not be ok. Doctrine and Covenants 89Â

Lol Thank you Eowyn.

I don't know about him not being able to do it alone. I did. I'm gonna tell you from experience. You need to pray. Tell heavenly father that you need his help. Tell him that you need him to guide you by the hand. Go to your bishop as soon as you can. Don't worry it isn't as hard as you feel it will be. Satan wants you to feel like your going to fail. He wants you to feel like your gonna be outed to the world, like your gross for doing so. You need to pray every morning right when you wake up, and ask for his protection. and read your scriptures and do the same before you get in to bed. Or Before your the last one up. Read the miracle of forgivness it will help you alot with this. Most of all have faith in yourself and that the lord hears and will answer your cry for help. Read Ephesians 6 13-18 use that formula daily. NEVER EVER GIVE UP! There is no such thing as a last chance to change with the atonement. Using it will be one of the biggest blessings in your life. Do not feel stupid, or dumb or anything for doing this! I congratualte you for having the desire to change. I know that you will succeed. Rember it's not how many times you fall. It's how many times you get back up. Sometimes you can't get up on your own. The lord has put people on this earth with the keys to help us up and to stand firm. Your parents wont find out at all. Your bishop wont treat you any different, if anything with more love then before. Trust me he wont make you feel like your bad. Always remember when you feel alone in this journey.. You and God are the majority.

Hmm. Some posters are being a bit harsh to Angel Telling her don't blame the church, or don't use the church for arguments with your son wont help her. Sister, i'd advice just to tell him that out of respect for you, love for you, you would prefer if she not stay with you. I'd say pray for him. Pray that he may be able to have a good spirit. Remind him as it says in 3 Nephi that the spirit of contention is of the devil. Pray that the lord might inspire you in which way to deal with your son, and why not take the oportunity to pray that the lord might bless you to help him, and to bless him with the desire to become active agian. I think the most effective way you can say where it is written is. The 10 commandments "Honor thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee. Also Read Ephesians chapter 6: 1-4 I pray that the lord might guide you in your struggle and your tribulations with your son. I hope that one day you'll be able to see him active again. It is never too late. Also look at D&C 119-121 Good Luck and have patience sister.

Hi there everyone i'm glad I found my way here. I hope to meet many of you wonderful brothers and sisters.