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On 4/25/2017 at 9:56 AM, Southern_Bell said:
Also, I have found that with v-neck tops and some scoop neck dresses, undershirts are a must. It's another layer that isn't fun in the hot, humid southern climate, but I feel more comfortable about what I'm wearing, how I look, and I have gotten used to the effect it has on my body temperature. I haven't felt the need to trash my wardrobe for it.
Thanks! I'll keep that in mind
@miav - I know what you mean about the bottoms. I'm afraid to buy the regular length size, as some petites come right to the top of my knees.
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Well, I managed to find some bottoms that work with my jeans! I'm quite happy about that. The nylon mesh thankfully doesn't make my jeans/hips bulkier to the point I feel like I can't move normally, and they breathe. The tops are still all really long on me, and my jeans don't allow me to tuck things in (not enough room for cotton poly). I measured the regular and petite sizes and they are both the same length... oddly. I'm going to have to special order some tops. I feel like the petites they make aren't petite (at least in the tops).
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@miav I'm going to give the mesh ones a try. I think the only thing that will fit in my jeans is something made of nylon at this point, so I'm also going to give the dri silk a try too. I'm trying to try everything, as at least one has to work, right? I feel like this is as bad as shopping for jeans! I'm starting to think part of the reason my garments may be feeling too hot is do to my circulation condition. I'm often too hot, or too cold at times.
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@Sunday21 I wish I could do that! That is also what worries me, that I'll find the size and all that works and then lose the weight and have to start over again. I do plan on losing weight here shortly... let the journey, begin!
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@miav I've been trying both. I've tried the dri lux & poly cotton in the chemise, but I found both to be too hot, and they bothered my skin (it's rib knit, I wish they had it in jersey). I have also tried the Carinessa, but found it too clingy to my body. I have a dri silk one coming, but it won't be shipped off until Monday. The only reason I've been trying the tops with cups, is due to the neck line, since the neck line works with my dresses. I'm just hoping something will work right in this next batch of garments. It seems they have a much better selection in Utah, than our local store or online.
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13 minutes ago, miav said:
@JustRain the first thing to remember is that Heavenly Father loves you and understands what you are going through. I agree with @Sunday21 about going slowly, and I know Heavenly Father will understand. Because of my sensory issue I had a hard adjusting, especially at night, when the garments would drive my crazy. It came to the point where I couldn't sleep because of them. After a couple of nights with little to no sleep because of the garments. I felt like I couldn't go one more night without sleeping. But I was taught that you should never take off your garments (and even the Stake Pres. made a point about never talking your garments off), so I felt trapped. I was either going to go without sleep or disobey Heavenly Father. I felt I couldn't talk to anyone about it because it's a sensitive subject and most people don't know it understand about sensory issues. I was so distraught. I prayed to Heavenly Father and pleaded to know what to do. And surprisingly I received an answer right away (usually when I pray, I don't get an answer right away.) The answer I was given was that I needed to sleep, which meant for then I would have to sleep without my garments. I felt love and understanding from Heavenly Father. He understood what I was going through and he wanted what was best for me (which at that time was sleep). I eventually found garments that work at night. I still occasionally have problems with my garments, but I know when I have these problems, Heavenly Father understands and is there for me.
I'm sorry for the long post but I know if He understands me, he understands you too. He will help you along this journey. As stated above try just one part of the garments, sounds like you can wear them under your pjs so wear then when you have your pjs on and try to with your normal pants, maybe an hour at a time, when you are ready. Have you tried the tops with the bra underneath? I know we have been taught to wear the bra on the outside of the garments but if you do better with the garments over the bra do it that way. Just remember as you try and figure out what works for you, that He loves you and He is there for you, He understands what you are going through and why you may need to adjust to garments differently than other people.
That's exactly how I've been feeling. I'm afraid to go to my bishop with my struggles, as I feel like I'll get the "never take off your garments speech" and only make everything worse. I did pray about it last night and got my answer pretty quickly too. I was told that I needed to rest, and that it was okay. What garments did you find that work well at night? I've tried the rib nit ones (poly cotton and dri lux), but they left me feeling so hot, that I couldn't take it, and I wasn't wearing anything over it. I'm someone that sleeps best when it's cool (no a/c in the house, and humid climate)
I've tried a few tops with the bra underneath, but the problem is the the lines in the chest area make things look odd, and depending on the fabric it's move in all the wrong ways. I don't know if there's a different style that doesn't have the line. I'll have to see if they can try and special order some tops (and have it made in a different fabric, and shorter too), as I found something that fits my chest area, but it's just too long and tight over the stomach, leaving me feeling hot, as there's no room for movement or air (it tends to make my skin itch), and it makes me feel worse about my own body (I do not feel comfortable feeling like I'm in a tube). This was one of my biggest worries about garments
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@Sunday21 - Thank you! I guess I do need to slow it down, take it slower than most, and work through things. My body is really different when it comes to adjustments, more than most. There are those that have been making me feel bad that I haven't been able to wear them much due to the troubles I'm faced with. They threw out the "you're obligated to wear them, so put them on", which only made me feel worse. I know they are a gift, and I know why I was given them. I know god wants me to be happy and be able to function, but right now the garments seem to hinder that.
I was so overwhelmed by the spirit after going to the temple, that it made me feel as though I wasn't myself, I was different. Which was & is confusing, to say the least. Though, right now I haven't been feeling the spirit much due to the troubles I've been having with the garments. I do not hate them, it just makes me feel sad that I am unable to wear them as I should. I do try to read my scriptures daily, a chapter or two usually. It helps me to relax, and feel at ease.
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4 hours ago, Sunday21 said:
Dear @JustRain,
Sorry you are having trouble. We may have to take this in steps. Is there any part of the garment that you can wear? A top or a bottom? If so, start with that. Small steps. Try that step and talk to Heavenly Father.
I've been trying to do this. I bought different bottoms... tried the stretchy kind, etc. There's not much room for extra fabric in my jeans (just note, they're not skin tight jeans, they're straight leg), or things just don't breathe, and tends to leave me feeling like I'm wearing a diaper. :-/ - it works okayish around the house in loose pjs, but that's about it. I feel like I'm the 1% that garments don't work for.
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@Jane_Doe, yes I am, my but therapist isn't LDS. Most of what I've been taught is that I shouldn't be trying to fit in clothes or to conform to things that make me uncomfortable. Buy what fits (not by what size), what feels comfortable, so I can be comfortable in my own skin. I am unable to wear tight clothing due to this, or anything that becomes baggy.
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So I went back, bought more sizes, more styles. Nothing fits right... I even bought a petite in one size, and it's the same length as the regular. They also won't fit under any of my daily clothes. Finding clothes for me is like a needle in a haystack, as I also suffer from an eating disorder, which comes along with body image issues. The garments have only made me feel worse about my body :(. I don't know if special ordering is going to help or not. I know they are a gift, and that is why I love them. It's just hard to have a gift that creates problems that were once under control. I've gone through a lot of therapy for my eating disorder, and I was doing so well, I was almost done, but now it's back. I know it's just my body that has these issues, but I feel like I'm at a loss either way. I either am unable to sleep, eat well, and wear the garment, or not wear it and feel bad. So I really don't know what to do.
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59 minutes ago, miav said:
You can also special order garments. I have never done a special order but plan to do so. I have a sensory issue and have problems with the way clothes feel so I understand why it's so hard for you to find the right fit(not sure ofnyou have a sensory issue or not). It is possible that you can special order a different kind of top in Dri-Lux. And they can probaby make the calf length low rise.
I may have to look into special ordering some, but I need to at least have something in the meantime. I have a sensory issue also, so I know how you feel. I think for the most part I just need to find out what size in their tops, because the one they have me listed it is too big. Their sizing is way off for me, but with like any brand, they all have their own sizing.
53 minutes ago, anatess2 said:Have you tried taking your exact measurements and having garments sized especially for your unique body type? You can order special sizes in any fabric from the online distribution center. The keep your measurements for 2 years and then you just submit a new set of measurements if your old one expires.
I'm tempted! The only downside is I'm going through weight changes right now. The joys of weight loss, finding things that fit and you love to only not be able to wear them and have to get something else. I'll consider it more once my weight is stable. Thank you for the information!
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On 4/17/2017 at 9:33 AM, anatess2 said:
The answer is, of course, the Carinessa fabric which is the fabric that is spandex material, which is what you don't like. Ugh. But, but, but... I'm thinking about this and I think that the curling only matters if you're wearing pants. So, maybe the calf-length bottoms is what will work for you for the days you wear pants. Calf-length ones don't curl. Then you can wear the regular length for non-pants days.
By the way... just a tip that might help you... I just bought a bunch of shirts from Walmart for $1.99 each. They're the thin very breathable shirts with the capped sleeves that comes in all kinds of colors. I bought all the colors. I wear them under sun tops - they're either made of lacy material with all those sheer sections on the shoulders or down the back, so the colored shirts become part of the top to "plug" the sheer sections. I bought a few of those sun tops from Walmart for under 10 bucks. Some of them are fancy enough to wear to work with plain skirts or slacks (also from Walmart for under $15).
I took a look at the calf leg ones. It only comes in natural waist, and anything natural waist never fits me sadly. I grew up with baggy jeans because everything always would fall down to my lower waist. It's just my body type unfortunately. I am so thankful they have low rise bottoms, or I would be having more issues. I just wish more of the tops would come in Dri Lux. I love the fabric more than the others. It feels the best next to my skin, but I may have to settle with the cotton/poly :-/.
Thank you for the tip! Clothes shopping has never been my thing.
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1 hour ago, Sunday21 said:
Dear @JustRain
Please please do not make garments the issue that separates you from the church. I promise that you will find a combination that suits you but it may take sometime. Don't let the aggravation of garments get under your skin. There have been times at which, I have worn only part of the garments (forgot to pack enough!) or taken off part of the garments during the work day. I am female, it's part of life,
if you are ever making a change in life, it is useful to ask yourself, Do i tend to be too hard on myself or not hard enough? Do I obsess or do I ignore important details? If you were going to fly from one country to another, how often would you check to see that you had your passport? Every 30 seconds is too often. Never is not often enough. Try to get yourself away from either extreme.
Good luck and remember the ultimate goal is to return to Heavenly Father. He loves you!
Thank you so much for your kind words. It was much needed. I love my garments, beyond words that I can say. I've been so overwhelmed by the spirit and my own troubles in life, that I haven't been able contain my tears. I do not feel like I should remove my garments, it feels weird with them on and off.... lol, go figure. Though, how does one stop the bottoms from bunching up, and rolling up? I'm unable to do the spandex material as it doesn't breathe well on my skin.
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1 hour ago, miav said:
I have found that garments are really a trial and error kind of thing. It's really hard to find what fits you best. Have you tired different materials? The Distribution Center use to never let you try on garments but they do now ( at least here in Salt Lake). I would call your Distribution Center and ask them if they would allow you to try them on before buying. If you can't I would buy several different sizes (smaller ones) with different materials. Also when you go next ask for the most experienced worker there to help me. Usually they know the garments pretty well and can help you a lot if you explain the problems you are having.
It has always been my understanding that you should where your bra on top of your garments. But some people on this forum have suggested other wise. I don't know if there is anything that is official. But I would say it's better for someone to wear their garments at all times, if that means they have to wear their bra underneath the garments then I think that's better than not wearing them at all.
I've tried a few different materials. I found one I hate to pieces and one I like, but it doesn't come in the top I want. All of the other fabrics that I felt in store, I didn't like. I'm hoping to make a trip there soon... I'll have to see what they say, as I need something that fits and that I feel comfortable in asap.
1 hour ago, zil said:Eventually, you learn to adapt / figure out what works. The human body can adjust to things far better than our conscious self wants to admit. It just takes time. (Which isn't to say you don't find the best sizes and fabrics possible, just that one shouldn't assume it's impossible to adjust regardless of our initial impression.)
Also, if one's outer clothing is not already suited for wearing over garments, then it may be necessary to get different outer clothing. If you cannot afford new clothing, please go talk to your bishop. There may be something he can do to assist.
I have a very hard time adapting to things, especially clothes. I've struggled with health issues and some of it relates to texture and how things fit. It's why shopping is so hard for me. I've been working through things in therapy, but there are times where I reach my limit and have issues.
My clothing is modest, I've always made sure of that. For this reason, I don't feel like I should have to go buy new clothes. If my clothing wasn't modest, I could understand needing to buy new clothes. I also constantly asked others who wear garments about my clothes and if I'd still be able to wear them with them, and I was told yes.
1 hour ago, beefche said:I was told when I received my endowment to wear my garments next to my skin.
Later in life, I spoke to the temple matron about female things and garments. She assured me that while garments are sacred they are also underwear and to wear my garments as needed to fit my female needs. I asked her point blank if that meant that I didn't have to wear the garment next to my skin and she said that no, there are times when it wouldn't be sensible.
I have some bras that I wear on top of my garments and I have some that I wear next to my skin as they will not stay in place if placed over the garment.
You can always ask to speak with the temple matron next time you are at the temple. You can then speak to her about your concerns and receive her counsel. I will say that it has been my experience that church leaders are not so authoritative about how we keep our covenants. They give guidelines and then allow us to make our own decisions.
Thank you! I'll have to talk with her next time I go. I didn't even think to ask while I was there receiving my endowments because I always thought it was a rule or standard. It's what my mother was taught, etc.
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2 hours ago, beefche said:
I must not be understanding. To me, this sounds like a simple fix. Get a size or two smaller. Use the ones that are too big for when you need to do laundry (I tend to wear my "old" garments when I'm doing laundry). Also, you may find that you wear different sizes depending on the fabric. And it is completely up to you on what you feel comfortable with. I have friends who like their garments to be very snug. Some like them looser fitting. If you have garments that you have not opened, you can return those.
As far as the bra issue, you can wear your bra under your garments. I think we were told at one time to wear our garments next to our skin, but, bras are not made to be worn over clothing. Thus, in order for your bra to fit right, wear it next to your skin.
I was told in the temple to wear it over my garments. May I ask where you got your information? I just want to be sure I am properly wearing my garments.
What confuses me most is most of the sizing for the tops, is by bra size, and there's no actual "small/med/large" with those sizes, except a few without the bra size... which aren't the style I'm not interested in. I wish they'd have the actual size, plus the bra size with it, so it's be the actual size. Unfortunately the ladies at the store weren't very helpful, and only made me feel more frustrated and lost.
2 hours ago, Sunday21 said:I went to michaels the craft store and bought tiny industrial strength magnets. I use these to keep the garments in place. I am 4.5 hours from the nearest distribution center! I would order a variety of sizes to try on in different fabrics....let's face it, garments are pretty cheap. If the garment is too long, try ordering a petite. I don't try to wear things like cap sleeves because my garments are always going to poke out. You are going to get the hang of this, I promise!
I'm not a fan of the cap sleeve, but all the other neck lines don't give me enough space to work with, with any of my clothes. I wish I had the money to go buy a whole new wardrobe, but I don't. I can't even work at this point due to the garment issue. I feel like my only option to be able work would be to not wear my garments, but I don't want to do that.
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So I just got my endowments out, and I'm having a hard time finding the correct size and trying to get comfortable in them. They measured me a few times but so far, everything feels too big or just doesn't fit. I felt like I was swimming in the ones I wore in the temple and they were barely staying on. My bra was (and is) also moving around like crazy. They told me to wear it over my garment top, but it only caused (and is causing) my shoulder straps to fall and my band to constantly move around, not staying in place or giving me support. I didn't have that issue before wearing garments. I currently have 2 bottoms they semi fit and 1 top that is too big & too long, and the rest of the tops I got are all too small & too long. The nearest store is over 40 mins away, and they don't carry every size/style that they have online.
My other issue is, I have limited clothing since I have a hard time finding anything I feel comfortable in and that fits. Clothing shopping has never been easy for me. I always buy what's comfortable and modest, but now due to my garment top, my shirts aren't fitting, and the garment top is so long that it shows. I've tried tucking it in, but due to my jeans it's not working well and requires constant adjusting, unless I don't move. I now only have a few Sunday dresses to wear, and nothing to wear to work...
Any suggestions? I feel like I'm at a loss. I don't want to not wear my garments, I want to be able to continually wear them, but I really need to be able to wear my clothes.
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Okay, so I've been inactive quite a bit and I'm barely getting back into things. I've been doing my best to keep up with my tything and I want to make sure I get it all paid. I know to pay tything on what I earn, but what about gift cards won? Is that something I should pay tything on?
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Swallowing pills was never an easy thing for me when I was younger... back then I used to crush pills up and added them to yogurt (yuck!). Since I couldn't stand the taste of the pill in yogurt, I finally found a way I could swallow them without having to crush them. So what I did was take my pill, wrap it up in a small piece of bread (slightly bigger than the pill, enough to wrap it around), then I smushed the bread around it, making it kind of doughy and incasing the pill. By doing that, it more less seemed like I was swallowing food and the bread help coat it, so it would go down easier.
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Happy Birthday EP!
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Great Video, I'll have to share this with some friends. :) Thanks.
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I'm thankful for everything in my life, the list could go on and on, so I'll just list a few things:
My friends and family, who have helped me through the hard times, I'm also very thankful for my online bff for all the help he has given me when I'm down or just need someone to talk to, Ty!
The Church
My health, even if it isn't the best, it has still made me the person who I am today.
Finding this forum!! Finding this couldn’t have come at a better time! It has helped me out allot, thank you!
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I’m LDS but inactive due to some things I've gone through and still going through.
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Just wanted to stop by and say hi. I'm not sure if you'll see me post often, I seem to be more of a reader then a poster... or I guess that would just be me being shy like always.
See you around!
Just got endowments out.... garment sizing issues :-/
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Well, I finally found garments that fit and feel comfortable to me! I'm just working out the last few kinks so I'm able to wear them 24/7. My work/everyday tops are slightly too small (due weight gain), so wearing garments under them, causes wardrobe malfunctions (shirt rides up, etc) and shows the garment. I'm on the hunt for new ones. I also discovered that when the weather changed, the dri silk I love to sleep in, isn't an option, as I developed insomnia from sleeping too warm (circulation condition). I was unable to function, eat properly, or work, due to the insomnia. I'm getting some 100% cotton ones here shortly, to see if it makes a difference.
I love my garments! I hate when I'm unable to wear them, and miss them when I can't. I can't wait until I'm able to wear them 24/7! <3