Jamie123
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There you go - now you've got a round hundred!
I seem to have more laughs but fewer thanks than you, so I must be funnier but less helpful!
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Anti-intellectualism is a persistent strain in conservative Christianity. 120 years ago Fundamentalists opposed academic literary criticism of the Bible, Darwin's Evolution, and the general skepticism about the miraculous and supernatural aspects of Scripture. In early Pentecostalism, the same opposition formed against so-called fundamentalist intellectuals, who argued that healings, miracles, and "demonstration gifts" of the Holy Spirit ended with the death of the Apostles. And, in several recent strings, I've seen admonitions here not to rely on proofs, on history, science, etc.--but just to pray for confirmation from the Spirit.
IMHO, all truth comes from God, ultimately. Proper wisdom will ultimately lead to God, not away. My own school used the phrase "Knowledge on Fire" to describe the proper complementary relationship between the Spirit and study.
My bottom line question: The world may not always respect us, but, in general, shouldn't Christians be smart?
A quote from George Carey (former Archbishop of Canterbury):
(my emphasis)May I encourage you to read and to study to the best of your ability. You don't have to have a PhD in theology to be a convincing witness. All you need is an experience of God's love, a smile on your face and reasons in your mind. Charles Spurgeon....was one day handed a sermon by a student. He was appalled by its lack of knowledge of the faith.
The young man whined: 'But God doesn't need my intelligence!'
'No,' agreed Spurgeon. 'But He could do without your appalling ignorance!'
Knowledge of God is a mix of heart and head. But may I also encourage you to pray for people to be raised up who can debate these truths on the television and radio, in the newspapers and on the Internet.
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This is 100% true. There was no "Lamb to the Slaughter"
The death occured based on a lawless mob reacting to the lawless action of Joseph by ordering the destruction of "The Expositor" that was about to expose Joseph's polygamy.
This is exactly the same story I've read (though "faith promoting" histories tell it rather differently). The Smith brothers together with other leading Mormons were arrested for interfering with the freedom of the press (to wit an anti-Mormon newspaper) and held under house arrest in Carthage. Learning that an angry crowd was on its way, Smith's supporters smuggled guns into the house so that when the mob arrived it met with stiffer resistance than expected. A number of people were killed on both sides.
I'm not saying Smith wasn't a martyr, but it was more a case of "Heroic Last Stand" than "Lamb to the Slaughter".
According to some sources Joseph Smith was shot while trying to escape via the roof, and his last words were "Who will help a poor son of the widow?" (The traditional Masonic distress call.) I suspect this is probably an anti-Mormon slur.
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Congrats buggers.
:o:o:o:o
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I don't think Ethan Smith and Solomon Spalding were "antis" per se, but writers of books which might have formed the basis for the BoM. Spalding's case involved a lost manuscript for a novel which was claimed to have fallen into the hands of Joseph Smith. I believe the manuscript was eventually located and turned out to be entirely different from the BoM. I know very little about Ethan Smith except that he wrote a book suggesting that the Native Americans might be descended from Jews - but I think that was quite a common belief at the time.really? naming names of specific anti's, calling them pathetic, deranged paranoid!!??? you don't often hear that kind of language and name calling from a GA at GC.
The first account of Joseph Smith's death I ever read (it was in a little book by Gordon B. Hinckley lent to me by a sister missionary) gave the impression that he went willingly to his death after singing "A poor wayfaring man of grief". That leaves a lot of the story out. Some uncharitable people will tell you that Smith "died in a gunfight", which is arguably true but also rather misleading. However, from other accounts it seems that Smith did put up quite a spirited resistance, and shot several of his attackers before they got him!As for Jim Jones, he was just nuts. AND, he'd already killed a US Congressman and knew that the 'one stuff' was about to hit the fan. He also took lots of people with him when he died. Joseph and Hyrum did neither of these. So I think his point has validity, in that, as Joseph said, they went willingly 'as a lamb to the slaughter'.
Of course, I'm not suggesting there's any real comparison between Jim Jones and Joseph Smith.
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Thanks for sharing that: I think he's right that sexual promiscuity destroys the true joy of sex, just as gluttony destroys the true pleasure of eating and drinking. (Plenty of people will jump in and say that sexual lust is a billion times worse because...blahdy blah blah... This may be correct for all I know, but it's not an approach I've ever found particularly helpful. As a teenager I tried to frighten myself out of masturbating with mental visions of hellfire, but with limited success. If anything, I've found putting the fear of an angry God into the equation only makes things worse.) For me today, probably the most damaging addiction is to junk food, as I'm now getting seriously obese. It's much like what the guy in the video says; anger and boredom seem to trigger the craving for food.
The greatest thing you have is the 24 hours in front of you. The past is gone; the future is distant. Today you CAN succeed.
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I wouldn't be surprised if there was a lot more to it than just the names. Anyone who inflicts the name of "Hitler" on his son is probably capable of a lot more.Last I heard the kids had been yanked from their homes, ostensibly on grounds unrelated to their names.
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Happy future Birthday
I didn't feel like an actual adult until I turned 30, and I feel a deep sense of my own power in the world, which is an awesome feeling indeed. I wouldn't trade anything to be younger. But I understand that is not common and wish you luck with coming to terms with your mortality
LOL - thanks :) I'll let you know how it goes
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from the article "Other kids get their cake," he complained. "I get a hard time. It's not fair to my children. How can a name be offensive?"
he thinks he's getting a hard time? what does he think will happen when the kid starts school? when they start learning world history and any kid that didn't know who the namesake was before finds out? "it's not fair"??? duh.... he doesn't know what a "hard time" is compared to what his kid will get. yeah, it's not fair.
that being said and though i personally feel like parents should take a lot of care in naming their kids.... not sure there is anything that can be done. not sure it's abuse. they have a right to name their kids.
i think the best solution to this kind of thing is to allow the child to legally change their name if they desire. make a law if there isn't one (i know making laws isn't that easy). i'd say 12 is old enough to make that decision without the parent's permission if needs be. but only if it's deemed the given name is adversely affecting the child's life; otherwise they can wait till they are 18.
I always thought Zappa had the last word in ridiculous names, but consider this...
In 1995, Michael Howerd, a marketing consultant from Leeds, was charged £20 by his bank for a £10 overdraft excess. He got into a furious row with the bank and then went to his lawyer and changed his name to "Yorkshire Bank plc Are Fascist B*****ds". He said, "I have 69p left in my account and I want the bank to return it by check in my full new name".
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Who cares....
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Yeah, me too!! 60 is a lot closer to me than it is to you Elph and Pam!!!!Too dang close
I would love to do 20-25 over IF I could have the knowledge I have now.
What happened to your "damsel with a dulcimer"?
(I know that wasn't a dulcimer she was playing, but your icon always made me think of that poem.)
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This story is a few months old, so I'm not sure if someone else has commented on it:
No birthday cake for little Hitler - Times Online
What on H-E-Hockey sticks was his parents thinking of? Not having a birthday cake is going to be the least of this poor kid's problems!
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In 3 days time it'll be my birthday.
I'll be 45.
I don't want to be 45.
Being 44 is bad enough, but 45??!!!
Yes I know. There are older people than me who wish they could be 45 again.
Sigh....
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At the bottom of the ocean lived two prawns named Justin and Christian. They had one major worry in their lives, which was the danger of being eaten by the sharks who were swimming all around. They spent most of their time scuttling from cave to cave, hoping that the sharks wouldn't spot them.
One day Justin was visited by his fairy godprawn, who granted him one wish. Justin said "I wish I was a shark, so I wouldn't have to worry about being eaten!" So with a swish of her wand, the fairy turned Justin into a shark.
But unfortunately Justin wasn't very happy being a shark. None of the other sharks would talk to him, because they knew he wasn't really one of them, and his old friend Christian wouldn't talk to him either because he was terrified Justin would eat him. So Justin had a very miserable time skulking around the ocean floor all on his own.
Eventually, when he could stand the loneliness no longer, and he called out to his fairy godprawn for help. "Please!" he said "Please turn me back into a prawn!"
So the fairy waved her wand, and Justin was once again a prawn. He rushed look for his old friend Christian, whom he found cowering at the back of a cave, thoroughly terrified.
"Don't worry!" he shouted at the sight of him. "I'M A PRAWN-AGAIN, CHRISTIAN!"
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In the UK we have the slang term "jobsworth" for someone (usually a minor official) who enforces regulations to the letter in defiance of common sense, stereotypically saying that it's "more than his job's worth" not to.
A similar, slightly more offensive term is "little Hitler".
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I feel the same way about eating brussells sprouts.
You've gotta have brussells sprouts with your Christmas turkey!
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An abbot, a mother superior and a novice are sitting together in a boat, fishing. Suddenly the abbot says:
"Drat! I forgot to bring the sandwiches!"
So he gets out of the boat and walks across the water to his abbey on the shore and fetches the sandwiches. As soon as they start eating, the mother superior says:
"Drat! I forgot to bring the lemonade!"
So she climbs out of the boat and walks across the lake to her convent on the other side of the lake and returns with a jug of lemonade. When they have finished eating, the abbot realizes he's also forgotten to bring the thermos of coffee. So he turns to the novice and says:
"Go and fetch the coffee Cedric, there's a good lad."
So the novice climbs out of the boat and immediately sinks. The mother superior looks reprovingly at the abbot and says:
"Now why didn't you tell him about the stepping stones?"
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If it wasn't for venetian blinds, it would be curtains for all of us!
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I guess I might be more upset if I could understand a word they are singing besides barracka obama. For all I know they are cursing him! Seriously, what are they saying?
I agree - I can't understand a word of it!
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It is also my wedding anniversary. In celebration of the other things, I shall read the Book of Mormon today, continue reading 'Gone with the Wind' and listen to Das Rheingold.
Congratulations Alana :) Here is quite a cool "short" version of Rheingold I found the other week: YouTube - Wagner's "Das Rheingold" - Animation
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What do you get when a canary flies in to a fan?
Shredded tweet.
LOL reminds me of that famous scene from The Vicar of Dibley:
Vicar: So, what do you call a budgie that's been run over by a lawnmower?
Alice: I don't know; what do you call a budgie that's been run over by a lawnmower?
Vicar: Shredded tweet.
Alice: So the budgie's dead, then?
Vicar: Yes, I should think so. It's shredded tweet!
Alice: [upset] Poor little thing! It didn't even see the lawnmower coming. How could it know that death was just round the corner?
Vicar: Alice, look, I'm not going to tell you these jokes any more if you're going to keep on responding like this. It's not a real budgie, OK? It's not a real lawnmower; it's just a joke!
Alice: So the budgie's not dead?
Vicar: No. It never got born.
Alice: Never got born?
Vicar: No.
Alice: [More upset than ever] Poor little thing! Oh, so much beauty. So much potential; it never got born. Never saw the light of the sun, or felt the gentle rustling of the breeze through its feathers. Never went "tweekle, tweekle, tweekle, give me my Cottle Fizz."
Vicar: Get out now. Go on, get out!
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Yes, I have a Tattoo :) He's always ringing bells and shouting "Boss! Boss! The plane! The plane!"
*Jamie123 braces himself for the heavy book that's about to be thrown at him!
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Today is the one hundred and eighty second anniversary of Joseph Smith's acquisition of the gold plates from Cumorah Hill. It's also the date of the signing of the emancipation proclamation by Abe Lincoln in 1862, and the first ever performance of Wagner's Das Rheingold at Munich in 1869.
(This highly useful information is brought to you courtesy of Wikipedia.)
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Thanks folks - I'm planning to make a new work/interests website soon and I'll include a gallery of her work on it. I'll post a link here when it's ready :) Jamie.
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Elder Jeffrey Holland--PM session Sunday
in 179th Semi annual General Conference (October 2009)
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However, I don't think any of this contradicts my short summary. The argument here is not so much about the facts as about the spin you put on them. It is quite possible for Joseph and Hyrum Smith to have fought back against their attackers and still be considered martyrs.