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Book of Mormon Reading Group: 30 Oct - 05 Nov 2023 (Alma 13 - Alma 25)
Jamie123 replied to zil2's topic in Book of Mormon
I don't think Herod Antipas was king in Jerusalem. He ruled the northern area around Galilee. (Although he was in Jerusalem for the Passover.) Judea was under direct Roman rule. -
Book of Mormon Reading Group: 30 Oct - 05 Nov 2023 (Alma 13 - Alma 25)
Jamie123 replied to zil2's topic in Book of Mormon
One positive thing I've found about the Book of Mormon is that the 16th Century language is not nearly so off-putting as I'd expected. You get used to it the more you read, and after a while you stop noticing it. It's the same with "and it came to pass". I used to find this phrase incredibly irritating, but it's either become a lot less frequent or else its stopped registering. -
Book of Mormon Reading Group: 30 Oct - 05 Nov 2023 (Alma 13 - Alma 25)
Jamie123 replied to zil2's topic in Book of Mormon
Haha - I never thought of that. Clarence is an angel and he doesn't have wings! (Until the end.) There is also the apocryphal Book of Tobit. (I was about to mention the relevance, but that's a big spoiler. For the record I don't think Tobit is genuine scripture - it's a novel, and a rollicking good one too!) -
Book of Mormon Reading Group: 30 Oct - 05 Nov 2023 (Alma 13 - Alma 25)
Jamie123 replied to zil2's topic in Book of Mormon
I may be the worst Philistine when it comes to art, but I think the stupidest winged angel is the Angel of the North I mean - aeroplane wings? I ask you! -
Not allowed to call it Christmas anymore. No Marys and Josephs and mangers and little baby Jesusses. Someone might see them who's NOT A CHRISTIAN, and oh it will be SO offensive!!! Except it won't of course. They won't mind one bit. Do you think I mind Diwali? No, I like the colourful lights and the different gods and goddesses: Hanuman and Parvati and Ganesha with his elephant head. I don't believe in them obviously, but they don't OFFEND me. So why should a Hindu be offended by pictures of the Nativity and choirs in the streets singing Christmas carols? He's not, one bit. So none of this "festive season" nonsense. It's Christmas, so let's make it about Christ!
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Book of Mormon Reading Group: 30 Oct - 05 Nov 2023 (Alma 13 - Alma 25)
Jamie123 replied to zil2's topic in Book of Mormon
Totally irrelevant of course, but I just found this totally beautiful version of Be Thou My Vision by the same ensemble. Original words too, not the politically correctified version. (Well not the original original words of course. Those are in medieval Irish.) -
Book of Mormon Reading Group: 30 Oct - 05 Nov 2023 (Alma 13 - Alma 25)
Jamie123 replied to zil2's topic in Book of Mormon
Yep mustn't forget "the six winged serephs" (I've sung about them often enough!) So if angels do sometimes have wings, wonder why it's so important to emphasise that they don't. -
Book of Mormon Reading Group: 30 Oct - 05 Nov 2023 (Alma 13 - Alma 25)
Jamie123 replied to zil2's topic in Book of Mormon
LDSs are always very emphatic about angels not having wings. The one person I know who claims to have seen angels says that they do, and that they are extremely beautiful. So I wonder who is right... -
Book of Mormon Reading Group: 30 Oct - 05 Nov 2023 (Alma 13 - Alma 25)
Jamie123 replied to zil2's topic in Book of Mormon
I'm sure everyone else enjoyed it 😁 -
Book of Mormon Reading Group: 30 Oct - 05 Nov 2023 (Alma 13 - Alma 25)
Jamie123 replied to zil2's topic in Book of Mormon
It just sounds like jabber to me! -
Book of Mormon Reading Group: 30 Oct - 05 Nov 2023 (Alma 13 - Alma 25)
Jamie123 replied to zil2's topic in Book of Mormon
Then again, I've just remembered Alma 11:24 😟 Though if Amulek had been wrong, I don't suppose Zeezrom would have paranoided himself into believing otherwise. -
Book of Mormon Reading Group: 30 Oct - 05 Nov 2023 (Alma 13 - Alma 25)
Jamie123 replied to zil2's topic in Book of Mormon
I remember at school listening to a play called (if I remember rightly) The Concrete Serpent. It contained the line "Men seek the truth and then betray". I've never since found any reference to it, but I think it's very true. It reminds me if another quote. This may be Lessing, but I'm not totally sure: "The eyes of those who seek have often found more than they wished to find". P.S. I could have sworn that last one was from Nathan the Wise, but I found it on Project Gutenberg and no luck. You know, I bet it was actually Dumbledore who said it. -
Book of Mormon Reading Group: 30 Oct - 05 Nov 2023 (Alma 13 - Alma 25)
Jamie123 replied to zil2's topic in Book of Mormon
Ahaaa...sorry! I'm just a bit of a thicko 😀 It's like the old joke: How do you make a [insert ethnicity you wish to slander]man laugh on Friday? Tell him a joke on Monday. -
Book of Mormon Reading Group: 30 Oct - 05 Nov 2023 (Alma 13 - Alma 25)
Jamie123 replied to zil2's topic in Book of Mormon
I have known at least four people who have the gift of tongues (though one of them is now dead). I do not have it myself, nor do I particularly want it. Perhaps that's not a bad thing. -
Book of Mormon Reading Group: 30 Oct - 05 Nov 2023 (Alma 13 - Alma 25)
Jamie123 replied to zil2's topic in Book of Mormon
Spanish for bed? -
Book of Mormon Reading Group: 30 Oct - 05 Nov 2023 (Alma 13 - Alma 25)
Jamie123 replied to zil2's topic in Book of Mormon
On second thought, questions like this are best asked in prayer. -
Book of Mormon Reading Group: 30 Oct - 05 Nov 2023 (Alma 13 - Alma 25)
Jamie123 replied to zil2's topic in Book of Mormon
Yep - that makes sense. Thanks -
Book of Mormon Reading Group: 30 Oct - 05 Nov 2023 (Alma 13 - Alma 25)
Jamie123 replied to zil2's topic in Book of Mormon
Chapter 24: The ANLs have made a commitment never to use lethal force again. The Amalekites and Amulonites and a lot of other people attack them without resistance and kill about 1000. When they realize what's happening most of the attackers repent ("coals if fire" I guess) and join the ANLs. The ANLs actually increase in number as a result. But how does any of this demonstrate that people who have lapsed into sin after knowing the truth become "more hardened" (verse 30)? (Serious question. I'm not trying to pick fault -
Book of Mormon Reading Group: 30 Oct - 05 Nov 2023 (Alma 13 - Alma 25)
Jamie123 replied to zil2's topic in Book of Mormon
I always used to think that too - but I have read that the name (Sans Terre in French) came from the fact that his father Henry II did not initially give him any territories (as he did his two older sons). Maybe another example would be Zedekiah who was appointed king of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar. When he made an alliance with Egypt against Babylon, that was seen as an act of treason against his overlord - and we all know what the result was. -
Book of Mormon Reading Group: 30 Oct - 05 Nov 2023 (Alma 13 - Alma 25)
Jamie123 replied to zil2's topic in Book of Mormon
Yep, John held Enlgand independently (though at one point i believe he was a Papal vassal). But you're right, he was a vassal to Phillp in respect of his French territories. Though technically he was not a king of any of those - only duke or count. -
Book of Mormon Reading Group: 30 Oct - 05 Nov 2023 (Alma 13 - Alma 25)
Jamie123 replied to zil2's topic in Book of Mormon
Maybe "drug mules" and "drug cartels"? Yep - right over my "innocent" head 😉 Am I right? -
Book of Mormon Reading Group: 30 Oct - 05 Nov 2023 (Alma 13 - Alma 25)
Jamie123 replied to zil2's topic in Book of Mormon
I know its irrelevant but I can't hear "potato" and "tomato" in the same sentence without it triggering the song. Yep I think the second is more pleasing to the eye. I wouldn't quite know how to explain why though. P.S. You're right. I can't write 'potatos' without itching to put an e in it. -
Book of Mormon Reading Group: 30 Oct - 05 Nov 2023 (Alma 13 - Alma 25)
Jamie123 replied to zil2's topic in Book of Mormon
Another thing - Lamoni is a king, and his father is a higher-up king over him. The Lamanites seem to have a kind of "tiered monarchy": a High King with various under-kings. I vaguely remember some reference to this earlier but I forget exactly where. -
Book of Mormon Reading Group: 30 Oct - 05 Nov 2023 (Alma 13 - Alma 25)
Jamie123 replied to zil2's topic in Book of Mormon
Ok I get the two ways of saying "tomato". But who ever says "potartoe"? Nobody, that's who. I only ever heard that in that song. -
Book of Mormon Reading Group: 30 Oct - 05 Nov 2023 (Alma 13 - Alma 25)
Jamie123 replied to zil2's topic in Book of Mormon
Why "Anti-Nephi-Lehis"? Were they Lehis who were against Nephi? Or does "anti" mean something other than "against"? P.S. The Wikipedia article on the Anti-Nephi-Lehis lists some interesting theories about the origin of the name. Yer man Nibley thinks the "anti" part comes from Egyptian not Greek. (In fact, if it is Greek it must be a translation of some other word since the Greek invasion didn't come until long after Lehi left.)