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  3. LDS Family Services counselor told me line about "Most important work you can do is in the home" isn't true

    in Marriage and Relationship Advice

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    My wife and I have been seeing someone from LDS Family Services for marital issues.

     

    During our discussions, the counselor has expressed the following:

     

    •  President David O. McKay’s teaching that “No success can compensate for failure in the home...” is not scripture given by a modern day prophet.
    • Covenants made in the temple do not dictate responsibilities of the parents in the home.
    • A parent’s “season” of their life is not determined first and foremost by the needs of the family and household.
    • Self-medicating with things that are not drugs / alcohol / pornography is an acceptable coping mechanism because everyone does it.
    • Cleanliness and order in the home is a matter of personal preference, not a duty or obligation
    • The various scriptures in the D&C that speak of the Lord’s house being a house of order have to deal with “priesthood order”, and not actually logistical or organizational order / cleanliness, and that when President Kimball said “Whatever your circumstance, let your premises reflect orderliness, beauty, and happiness”, he was talking about a particular period of time and not outlining a timeless principle. (Which is really confusing, because it’s pretty well spelled out here, here, and here).
     

    It was my understanding that LDS Family Services counselors are themselves members, and are expected to counsel in a manner that adheres to the mainstream doctrines of the church, not based first on secular ideology or their own opinions that go counter to the doctrines.

     

    This person is the only one available in our area, and we would have to travel for hours to see someone else.

     

    According to this page, apostasy is " is repeatedly acting in clear, open, and deliberate public opposition to the Church or its faithful leaders, or persisting, after receiving counsel, in teaching false doctrine."

     

    So ... are they correct?  Should we still be seeing them, or does this qualify as apostasy and something I need to bring up to their supervisor / Priesthood Leader?

    If what you shared with us is true ....my advice to you is ....go directly to your Bishop and share with him the things you mentioned here. Your Bishop and that Councilor will or should at some point get a report about your sessions.

  15. Sins & depression

    in Advice Board

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    Sure. But "I can't get medicine because my parent's don't know" is a different issue than "I can't get medicine because my parents don't believe me and won't take me to the doctor".

    My point here ....what if the parents don't have the sense or common sense to think it's an issue .....I can take you to some areas in our country where they have no knowledge or understanding about or what depression is