volgadon
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Hitler may have used some antisemitic musings of flawed theologians, but the spirituality that influenced him was occultic and pagan. Perhaps Hitler used all of it for his own philosophical and political ends. Both the History Channel and PBS have broadcast documentaries highlighting the occult and pagan influences on the Nazis--including their rituals.
Don't think that I am trying to knock protestants. I am not. You are right that Hitler and the Nazis were influenced by the occult and by what they imagined to be their pagan past, but the fact of the matter is that the antisemitic elements in paganism and the occult were minimal compared to the Catholic-protestant legacy.
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Hitler dabbled in the occult, and the Nazi Party borrowed many rituals from ancient German paganism. The on-going myth that the holocaust was primarily a genocide inspired by the Bible is an error of the worst kind. What may be historically accurate is to say that Hitler convinced Christian clergy to remain strictly apolitical, with promises that if they complied, his government would not interfere with church affairs.
The culture of antisemitism which spawned the Nazi ideology grew out of Christian antisemitism, which is indeed based on many passages of the New Testament. Some memorable medieval and early modern German expressions of this were the Judensau- popular artwork featuring Jews doing obscene things to sows- and Martin Luther's charmingly entitled tractate, "On the Jews and Their Lies." These inspired Nazi attitudes to the Jews far more than supposedly pagan practices ever did.
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I used to think Bob Marley was singing a horribly misogynist chorus of no woman, no crime.
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You may not be familiar with the word mondegreen, but surely you're familiar with the concept. A mondegreen is a misheard phrase, often in song.
It might have been in the 30s, but a woman heard the Scottish coronach "Bonnie Earl o' Moray," with a line of "Ye Highlands and ye Lawlands Oh quhair hae ye been, They hae slain the Earl of Moray, And hae laid him on the green." The woman asked wanted to know what happened to his Lady Mondegreen!
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This is how to request a raise.
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The ancient mariner: Paychecks, paychecks everywhere, nor any penny to spend.
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How to respond when your request is declined: "What we have here is failure to communicate."
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Make me an offer I can't refuse.
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I highly recommend these posts when it comes to the whole "feelings" issue.
Didn't Major in Journalism...So I Took Up Blogging: TRUSTING FEELINGS
Manifestations of the Spirit: St. Seraphim and the Mormons | Heavenly Ascents
Just to give you an idea of St. Seraphim Sarovsky's stature, he is one of the most venerated Orthodox saints. His icon is the second most common throughout Russia.
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We often hear that the heart is deceitful, feelings can't be trusted, must reason, bla bla bla.... As if most people really are like Mr. Spock.
Idioms change. They change through time and culture. In modern, western culture, the heart symbolises emotion and feeling. Did it carry the same meaning for the people of the Bible? This is what the non-LDS scholar Geza Vermes, in his book "The Authentic Gospel of Jesus" has to say about the heart.
To understand the proverb 'Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks' (Luke 6:45), it must be remembered that the heart in Semitic mentality is the symbolic seat of thinking rather than that of feeling. A rabbinic saying in Aramaic distinguishes someone who keeps in his heart what is in his heart from those who transfer their heart's secrets to their mouth and thus divulge them (Genesis Rabbah 84:9). So 'Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks' recalls the image of the good heart filled with righteous ideas and contrasts it with the bad heart crammed with wicked thoughts.
A couple of weeks ago I sat with the KJV and went through references to the mind in the Old Testament. The Hebrew word was always heart! The inner centre of emotions and feelings was the kidneys, or reigns in the KJV idiom.
So, is the mind deceitful above all else? That apparently is what the Bible says.
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Thats a fair statement.
That is really what people are getting at. A prophet establishes the interpretation for the community as a whole. That is, how we are to live by it. Doesn't make us mindless automatons.
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The Bible says not to believe every spirit. When I read Galatians 1:8 it seems apparent that that even an angel from heaven could preach something false.
Did Paul say belive NO spirit? If so, that would force us to reject his writings and consider them as ironical as Bob Dylan's "Don't follow leaders!"
How did he tell you? Was it a feeling?
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? - Jeremiah 17:9
Are you sure that the idiom meant the same thing that it does to you?
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Does evidence even matter once you begin to trust in your feelings?
Of course evidence matters, Spock. There is more than one way of interpreting evidence, as well as feelings and also the workings of the Holy Ghost, which aren't always synonymous with mere emotions.
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Luke 16:16 "The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached"
Everything you are getting at here kind of falls apart with this scripture. Loudmouth pointed out that the phrase means the Hebrew Bible. If we were to follow the same logic you used when thinking it refered to prophets, we would have to conclude that the Hebrew Bible was done away with and ought not to be used anymore. But it was used by apostles and others after the death and resurrection of Christ. It is still used by Christians today. To remain consist you would have to concede that this sort of language doesn't necessarily mean a cessation of prophets either.
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Agreed, but they were still interpreting the Old Testament without a Prophet.
I thanked this post to highlight it. I strongly disagree that they were intrpreting it without a prophet. They took the message they were given by a prophet and used it to interpret the scriptures.
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No, the people at my Church are amazing, they arnt bashing anyone. They glorify the Father. When I look at them I see tax collectors (see Luke 18:9-14) when I look at LDS I see people trying to make themselves righteous (see Philipians 3:9).
Do you also see beams?
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In Acts 17:11 a group of people were commended for searching out the answers in the scriptures.
They were commended for interpreting the scriptures in light of the revelation given them. In other words, commended for reading things into the scriptures.
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No, we don't know if all of them had many wives and concubines, which is why I said it is safe to assume he did as we read the words of the Book of Mormon.
How is it safe to assume if we don't know?
Mosiah 11: 4, "And all this did he take to support himself...and also his priests, and their wives and their concubines..."
From this verse alone, I would take the stance, myself, the default position is that Alma had many wives and concubines, since he was one of Noah's priests.
In order to reach that conclusion you have to assume that "their wives and their concubines" means that all the priests had wives.
I would also take the nature, carnal nature of men, who are wicked and idolatrous. In this situation, it is more likely that Alma had many wives and concubines, then he having only one wife or none. I would also specify it is more a "default position" seeing that not only did they have many wives and concubines, but that these wives and concubines were being supported by other people.
The carnal nature of men, tells me, if a wicked man could have more than one wife, and many concubines, and that he would not have to support them himself, but that they would be supported by other people. Yes, the carnal men would easily say, "I'm in." Especially, if it also included a position of power. Just look at our American politicians as an example ;D
It is easy to generalise.
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And it wasn't condemned in Jewish law until about 1000AD.
In Ashkenazic Jewry.
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I have understood it the same way. Alma was one of the false priests, and we know in record the false priests had many wives and concubines. Alma being one of them, it is safe to assume, he had many wives. And there is no record that he had to divorce them or get rid of them.
We don't know that all of them did have many wives and concubines. That Alma did can be a possibility, not the default position.
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PC's point is that we do teach an eternal "Hell" of sorts.
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Primarily, thoughts and occurences that are of importance to you. Not that I am very consistent in keeping a journal myself.
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I find it ironic that the school not only doesn't give definite fails, but can't even definitely fire someone. Something is rotten in the kingdom of Denmark.
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If the spirit asked you to murder a little girl walking down the road. Would you do it? I wouldnt becouse I know that it is wrong according to Gods word. Hence the scriptures hold higher authority then a spirit or heavenly being.
1 Samuel 15:3. Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ***.
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It is indeed a different world. Ideologies change, often for the better.