volgadon

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  1. The obvious solution is to say, I can be saved? What a wonderful opportunity. Do you mind waiting here, I won't be long, have a bank to rob, an orphan to beat up, listen to rock music backwards, maybe, just maybe might manage a few more of the Ten Commandments, and then I'll come back to be saved. Won't take more than an hour at most.

  2. Orthodox is a bit of a misnomer when it comes to Judaism. It really should be orthoprax, that is, someone who is observant in fulfilling religious acts. In Israel, we have several grades of Judaism. Ultra-Orthodox are those who go above and beyond the standard requirments of halakhic practice. Halakha is the Jewish religious law. An example of those are the chasidim belonging to the Toldos Aharon group, that stipulate every inch of dress, and only leave their neighbourhood when going on a religious pilgrimage (even then the bus windows are blacked out).

    Orthodox meticulously fulfill all halakhic requirements, but not in excess like the ultra-orthodox.

    Next are tradition keepers. They vary in observance.

    Last are the non-observant, who might be anywhere along the spectrum from only keeping milk and meat separate all the way to pork eaters.

  3. but we understand it today to be pronounced Jehovah(Since the Doctrine and Covenants says it that way).

    The D&C uses the standard English spelling/pronunciation, no more, no less. Some of those sounds don't even exist in Hebrew, and one has to wonder why, for example, the Russian translation of the D&C says Iegova and not Jehovah.

  4. So, my point is that perhaps because of their faith and through the power of the Spirit, the people with Jesus did not need so much food in order to be filled because for the last three days they had been nourished and filled by the word of God and His Spirit. As they relied more completely on God they had less need to rely on bread alone. Thus, the meager amount was plenty because the multitude did not need much food in order to be filled. Their faith had allowed God to temporarily cause a change in them.

    The problem is that, in the account, the amount left over was more than what they had started with.

  5. Sorry for the Russian greeting. I have an intense passion for Russia now.

    Wonderful! I was roughly your age when I developed my intense passion for Russia and all things Slavic. Later on, I was able to serve a Mormon mission in Russia, and am married to a Ukrainian. What are you finding most interesting about Russia?

    I am curious about being Mormon, and I am interested in learning and wanting to become one, and I'm only 15.

    I have had alot of miracles happen to me.

    One I know for sure was a crime to be. My biological father attempted to murder my mom, and I witnessed it. He ran off on sight and she called the cops. God must have told him to leave, and she was safe.

    What came next was the most horrible thing that ever happened. An officer was with me to keep me away from the evidence. I found a gatorade bottle in the closet. I was thirsty and asked her to drink it, and she gave me permission to do so. I remember noticing the liquid being blue foam. One sip, was like swallowing a piece of Satan, poisonous. It was burning! I had to be taken away because I was vomiting, straight to the emergency room. They found out that I swallowed lye. THey think it was my Father's doing. He wouldn't admit to it either. He is in prison now.

    I had to have my whole esophagus replaced and I survived through it all. It was miraculous. I have had a total of seven surgeries to fix everything. I survived it all.

    You have much to be thankful for. Miracles definitely occur.

  6. Which is it? You can't have a pre-req if there's is not a title/office. If your first point is true then your second point is either irrelevant and about another time period, or it is directly contradicting your first point. Note I did not say it was required, just common, much like it's not required for the president of the USA to be married or theist but every single one has.

    Sigh. How much have you read on early Judaism? R. Yohanan b. Zakkai was a central figure, restructuring it after the destruction of the temple. I am saying that even when a distinct class of "rabbi" began to appear, there was no marriage requirement, let alone, then, in the earlier period of Jesus's day.

    Again, my understanding is "rabbi" is "one who is authorized to teach" much like a professor, or minister is authorized to teach/preach. I have a very, very difficult time believing that Jewish culture did not have appointed teachers at any point in time. A very difficult time even giving that concept a chance.

    Rabbis weren't primarily those "authorised to teach." Rabbis weren't primarily public teachers or preachers. They were experts in halakha (Jewish law) and purity matters. Each community appointed people to teach it and preach to it. There was no authorization required beyond that, and even then, people could come in and teach. Some rabbis were appointed a community's teacher and preacher, but the community had no qualms about kicking them out in case their teaching didn't meet the community's outlook and needs, or even if they were intolerably boring. Popularity was a big factor.

  7. There is anecdotal evidence that leads one to believe Jesus may have been married. Jesus was called Rabbi by more than just his disciples (him having a following in and of itself is somewhat evidential of his status as a rabbi), the Pharisees called him that, Sadducee's called him that, teachers of the law called him that, commoners called him that, he referred to himself as that.

    There was no office of rabbi in Jesus' day. I challenge you to take a work like Sayings of the Fathers and find where any of the sages before the destruction of the temple were called rabbi. Ethics of the Fathers: Chapter One - Translated Text Rabbi was like saying Mr., or sir.

    I find it very likely that Jesus was a rabbi with authority, this leads us to the fact that usually (almost required that) rabbi's were married, and it would have been highly unusual for Jesus to be a rabbi and single, and it would have likely been noted somewhere if he were single and an explanation given.

    See above. There was also no requirement in the days of Yochanan b. Zakkai that rabbis be married.

    Obviously none of the above is bullet proof, and may even be somewhat flawed, as it is based on what I have read and gathered from discussions of the Jewish culture at the time and whether or not Jesus was a rabbi. I am in no way an expert on this stuff ^_^

    More than somewhat flawed, it has little to stand on in the primary sources.

    I also faintly recall reading about Jesus speaking to the pharisees and essentially condemning them for seeking his death when he had taught side by side with them. Sometime near to His crucifixion I believe.

    You mean, when he said he was teaching publically and none laid a hand on him, but went about arresting him secretly.

  8. Now, take for instance two movies that influences young men to commit murder

    Batman

    natural born killers

    Made for TV - Burning Bed

    Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.... Our *four*...no... *Amongst* our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise.... I'll come in again.

  9. I'm pretty sure in Deuteronomy somewhere it says "Thou shalt watch Star Wars, verily verily, thou shalt quote it to excess"

    I could be wrong though.

    Looking back on my MTC experience, I could have sworn that Star Wars and Napoleon Dynamite were added to the standard works...

  10. ram, for one thing I misunderstood Vort's post but even so, my question was logical. I was only asking if anyone could provide a source showing a manuscript created out of brass; but of course any type of metal would be helpful. And both you and volgadon have provided some information.

    M.

    I should also mention that dating from the Pre-Exilic period, the Priests' Blessing has been found engraved on metal, but the pieces are tiny.

  11. This comes from a credible, relatively recent eyewitness, the largest metal codice that I know of. Rather hefty!

    P. ix of Jorunn Jacobsen Buckley's "The Mandaeans: Ancient Texts and Modern People," Oxford University Press, 2002.

    The priest fetched several Mandaean books and scrolls to show us, all in their individual white cloth bags. He also gave me a paper copy of the imprint on the Mandaean skandola, the ritual iron ring with an iron chain. This is used to seal newborn babies on

    their navels, and it also seals graves. Sheikh Abdullah showed us his ring and explained that the four animals depicted on the seal—the lion, the wasp, the scorpion, and the encircling snake—were “the elements of life.”

    Then he began to tug at something under his cushion. We helped him pull out a large cloth bag, like the others, but this one was heavy as a rock. It was an archetypal book, The Book of John, made entirely of lead, inscribed with stylus on lead pages bound together like a regular book. No wonder it was heavy. Its edges were frayed and worn. We leafed through it reverently. C. G. Jung might have fantasized about a tome like this. There is probably not its like in the world. Sheikh Abdullah told us that the book was 2,053 years old and written by John the Baptist himself. There and then, it seemed a likely view.

    More information on the book is given in p. 13.

    The Book of John.

    Much cherished by Mandaeans but hardly studied at all by scholars, this conglomerate document, named for the chief Mandaean prophet, occupies an important place in the religion. A leaden copy of this book was shown to me in Ahwaz in 1973, as noted in my preface. The only translation remains Lidzbarski’s from 1915,47 which, in the latter half of the book includes his own Mandaic transcription in stunningly beautiful calligraphy. Like the Ginza and the liturgies—though unlike many other Mandaean texts—John is always in book, that is, codex, form. Its age, in terms of colophonic information, can be assigned to early Islamic times, though John undoubtedly retains much material that is considerably older. Lidzbarski divides the text into thirty-seven tractates and bestows on them titles according to content. Here we find, despite the title of the book, a focus on John the Baptist mainly confined to the lengthy sixth tractate of the book. This deals with John’s miraculous birth and preaching and includes the prophet’s polemical conversations with a defensive Jesus. Most of the sections in this tractate begin with the mysterious formula “Yahia preached in the nights; Yohana in the evenings of the night,” which retains both the Aramaic and the Arabic forms of John’s name.