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I'm glad we could all help. :)

I'd had that same thought as well.Thanks everyone for the informative answers.

I'm already familiar with that debate. :) Having grown up in mainstream Christian churches, it was discussed.So that year between Jesus ascending in Israel and appearing to the Nephites is a good chunk of time that perhaps he used to visit some of the other cultures/continents. I know I've heard rumors about stories/legends from other places too. Maybe someone will find more accounts buried there someday. That'd be pretty neat.

When I posted this question, I expected it to be a fairly straightforward answer that someone knew where to find. I had no idea it was so debatable.

I think that's especially well said.

Ah, interesting. I'm at least enough aware of Emma Smith's history after JS's death to see the trouble with that being the case.

Trying to correlate the events from the New Testament after Jesus' resurrection with his going to the America's. Does the church have a stance on when that happened? Was it after he was taken up to heaven from the apostles as talked about in Act's or did he leave for a few months before that, then come back to them to be taken to heaven?

My best friend, who's been investigating for awhile now, mostly just us chatting about what the church believes and him reading the BOM, posed this question to me, and I don't know the answer. "Why didn't the later prophets after JS continue to create an accurate translation of the Bible and finish the JST? Why do we still use the KJV when we could have a more accurate version through modern revelation?" I thought it was an excellent question. Anybody know?

And/or then into love when your spouse says, "I saw that you set them down on the bathroom counter." :)

But so is every other emotion.

I like that.

Not necessarily true. Someone might be naive enough to trust God to meet every single need of theirs without any effort on their part, or to heal their terminal sickness, and that trust could be, likely will be, disappointed.. Those are just thoughts and conditions that lead to an emotion, anger. There's no primary emotion there that precedes anger that I can think of. Rather than saying you "feel" that your needs are being ignored, it would be more appropriate to say that you "think" your needs are being ignored.

Can someone give me an example of when they think that righteous anger would exist? Is it so rare that none of us can expect to experience it, or is it something we will only likely encounter a couple times in our lives?

That seems like a poor definition/argument for betrayal being an emotion. I could substitute something like "hunger" in there and still have it hold true, whilst certainly not an emotion. At least I don't think hunger is an emotion.... A Person P feels Hungry if 1) P has the preference to not be hungry, and 2) P believes that P is hungry, and 3) P has displeasure arising from attending to the fact that P believes his preference is not satisfied. I'm not sure where I'm trying to take this tangent. lol... Maybe nowhere.

Is "betrayed" really an emotion? It seems to me that it's a condition or status or situation, not an emotion. It's a situation that certainly can create other strong emotions. "Hurt" or "Sadness" are emotions, and I'll admit they were present as well as anger at being betrayed.

That's correct. Well, except that "Marie" isn't a co-worker. I don't want to get too hung up on this example, it was just an example of how I was angry, felt I should be, dealt with it appropriately, forgave, and moved on. To really analyze my wife's thought's on it being justified or not get into matters I'd rather not discuss on an open forum. PM me if you want to discuss that specific issue. I'm content thinking that's it was wrong, and that every 3rd party agrees with me. At this point, my wife agreeing whether or not Marie was wrong in sharing the emails is small beans and water under the bridge. If you see my profile, we're separated. Bigger fish to fry right now. The email sharing thing happened a couple months ago. :)

Anatess, Actually, she DOES feel that way. Since she was one of the affected recipients. The email contained things the counselor had been telling me about her that she wasn't mentally ready to hear yet. And it hurt the situation.

Yes, but just telling myself to feel happy go lucky when I am feeling angry just feels like living in denial. I need to deal with the anger first and then I can feel happy.

Not if your wife is telling you it's wrong... lol. In which case, it just makes the anger worse because you're trying to express it and she's saying it's wrong to express it.

But was it wrong for me to feel angry about it? My wife said that I had no right to feel angry about it. That's not what lead us to the current discussion about anger, but I remember being flabberghasted at the time that she didn't think I should be angry about it. I don't know what else I could have/should have felt in that situation.

By expressing it appropriately. A great example that happened to me not long ago. I was having a private email conversation with someone. Lets call her Marie. Several personal things were discussed, by both of us. We had both said that it was important to both of us that this email conversation not be distributed to others, because many of the thoughts and opinions that were expressed, while true, would be hurtful or counter-productive. But Marie decided a week later to distribute the emails to people because she thought that some of the ideas might be helpful. Of course, she only distributed them to the people that I didn't want to see them, she did not distribute them to the people who she didn't want knowing about her own personal and private issues that she had discussed. I told her that it made me very angry and upset, and then I told her that I forgive her. But it still leaves me on damage control. That's controlling it. By expressing the anger appropriately to let someone know that it made me upset, I can move on.

I agree. Anger can be a primary emotion. If some stranger walks up to me on the street and punches me in the face, I'm going to feel anger. Not hurt, fear, depression or anything else. Just anger. Period. What else would it be covering up? I think it's justified to feel anger in such a situation.

Wow....no kidding.

1. How would you feel about your wife going to a city she has never been to by herself because she is mad at you and wants to get away for a weekend? It would make me sad that she wanted to go without me, but I wouldn't be worried about it. My wife is planning to go to Ireland without me in Sept with one of her girlfriends. Makes me sad, but I'm not worried about her cheating while she's there. Small problem amoungst our bigger ones right now. 2. How would you feel about finding that type of underwear? Assuming she'd never had sexy ones before, maybe a little concerned. Not the case though. 3. How would you feel about her ex boyfriend calling her? Just fine, as long as the content was kosher. I have several ex-girlfriends that are still decent friends. Nothing to worry about there unless they start trying to seduce. Alone time together should be avoided though. 4. Do you think the combination of all of the above is obvious evidence that she is not to be trusted, and that something might be going on? Yes, something MIGHT be going on. But I wouldn't see it as proof. Investigate further. Check the phone records. Did they call eachother on the phone that weekend? Check the debit card/credit card record. Did she stay/pay at a hotel while she was there? If not, where did she sleep? At his house? Most people would not pay for a hotel room for a weekend if they were planning on sleeping with the boy. My dad got caught cheating doing that, no hotel bill when he went out of town and my mom thought he might be cheating, she checked the bill and found the lack of evidence to make him admit it. Check the debit card records for a Victoria's Secret purchase, did she buy something for lunch and dinner every day? If she was with boy, he might have bought some of her meals. But if she was by herself, she probably bought them all, and they were bills that are in line with one person eating. Larger bills could be her and someone else. Collect more evidence.

If I were a thief or other type of criminal, a dog would not concern me at all. I've dealt with lots of angry dogs. Once you make it clear that you're not afraid of them, and meaner than they are, they're harmless. If I had a knife, and what thief doesn't, a dog would be quickly and easily dispatched. Even trained police dogs are easily and often killed once they reach the criminal. The biggest hassle of a dog would be attracting attention from neighbors from an angry dog. But the dog itself: no concern.