Old Tex

Perhaps a person who lives in Alaska tends to think about their underwear more.

I am so confused. I'm as confused as you are. I think I have found a cure for mine. I'm going to quit asking questions.

OK, I got that. Now, what is a RM Calendar? (And just how iffy on the jeans?)

-a-train, Your above post reminded me of something. I don't intend to hijack the thread, but I think this may be related. Christ is referred to several times in the scripture as "the son of Man" with the "M" in "Man" a capital letter. I have my own idea of why this is so, but if others want to comment I would like to here it.

I have always venerated, respected, and worshipped Christ as my savior, redeemer, and provider of the Atonement. I have always venerated, respected, and worshipped His Father as the Father of my spirit and the giver of my life.

I hate it when someone gives temperature in Celcius. I never know whether to add or subtract 32.

Hmmm! Another one. Too bad. The memory is always the first thing to go.

Isaac, Just so folks on this thread will know, there is a difference between disfellowshipment and formal probation. If a disiplanary council determines disfellowshipment, the record of the meeting is sent to the stake president and then forwarded to SLC where one's membership record is so noted. This is done so if the person moves into a different ward before the time of the disfellowshipment has ended, (usually one year) the new Bishop is notified by his ward clerk when the record arrives. There is also both formal and informal probation where disfellowshippment if not warrented. But, one thing to remember about any action, it is designed to help one make a needed correction in their life. It is not a "punishment". It is an opportunity given in love to help us stop for a minute and consider where our life is going and to decide if it's going where we really want it to go. If not, we can then make the mid course corrections we sometimes need to get back on the path again. As both a member of the Bishopric, and as a ward clerk for many years, I have been involved in a number of these councils and every time a person would heed the council given, they came out a stronger and more mature person. I know that you will too.

We have much more choice in the temple garment than we had when my wife and I received our endowments forty five years ago. The two piece garment was the best move as far as I'm concerned. I too find the nylon material slick and hot, so I went to all cotton in the lighter weight. It's so light weight that it almost more of a "mesh" than a "cloth". I don't see why they wouldn't have that material available for women too. Is there a clothing store in the Temple nearest to you? If so, ask about them the next time you go. I'm very comfortable in them.

You show a great deal of wisdom in your post, -a-train. Unfortunately this subject has caused some in the Church problems because they seemingly could not accept this same counsel that you propose in your message above. Folks who take certain positions and carry them to the radical extreme are many times consumed by them. I see those leanings on some of the posts here. I hope they are not carried so far that history repeats itself.

Yep! Sounds like a line straight out of an old Tex Ritter movie. Below is the heading from Section 138. I try to pick a quiet time and read that section every once in a while. There is a lot of information there. (Bold is mine) A vision, given to President Joseph F. Smith in Salt Lake City, Utah, on October 3, 1918. In his opening address at the eighty-ninth Semiannual General Conference of the Church, on October 4, 1918, President Smith declared that he had received several divine communications during the previous months. One of these, concerning the Savior’s visit to the spirits of the dead while his body was in the tomb, he had received the previous day. It was written immediately following the close of the conference; on October 31, 1918, it was submitted to the counselors in the First Presidency, the Council of the Twelve, and the Patriarch, and it was unanimously accepted by them.

We all need to figure it out for ourselves Onyx, but I will pass on that when it comes to doctrine, I have always found safety in sticking with the standard works.

AND with garments? Thats my idea of hell!! They must be using something there in England that we don't have here in the U.S.

I presume by your answer that you are involved with the various feminists movements. While such movements may help women, I feel that if carried to the extreme (which has been done in some cases) may well have the opposite effect. While others may accept such an idea or teaching for themselves, we, as LDS, need to always heed the leaders of the Church when it comes to teachings on this subject in the Church. I say this without benefit of what has been posted here on this subject in the past. I do know that those who go too far afield and try to influence others to follow, put themselves and others in a bad position that can (and has) brought much sorrow upon themselves and many around them. Perhaps this is not the case. I haven't been here long enough to draw any conclusions either way, but your post brought these things to mind from the past and I though I would comment on them.

This will be my first post here, although I joined the board several months ago. Permit me to pass on an expierence I had many years ago when my oldest son was about five years old. (I am male, by the way.) I had been talking to him about Heavenly Father and that His son was Jesus Christ. The conversation went on for a while and he went to play. Later he returned and said that he had another question. I said OK. He then asked me to tell him about Heavenly Mother. I was stunned. I asked him where he had heard about a Heavenly Mother. "Nowhere", he said, rolling his little eyes at me, "I just thought that if I had a Heavenly Father that I must have a Heavenly Mother and I wanted to hear about her." I don't remember what I answered, but I though of the saying, "Out of the mouths of babes oftime come gems". The wise and educated of the world are trying to figure out the things of God, and it is so simple to a five year old. For such is the Kingdom of God.

Well, OK. But have you holstered you gun and taken your medication? I can go back to Hannity for a few days if you want. Old Tex

Perhaps it can most easily be demonstrated by saying that to get to the Celestial Kingdom there are 10 "steps" and that you have listed 5 of them above. The first 5 will certainly get you to a kingdom of Glory, but it won't be the Celestial Kingdom. It will take all 10 "steps" to get there, no matter if you are LDS or not. A lot of LDS are not going to make all 10 either. Some of these "steps" will involve the Temple. Old Tex OOPS! Looks like I had the misfortune to post in the middle of a private gun fight. I hadn't read far enough into the thread before I posted. I just came over to sign up from the religion section in the Hannity Boards. There is too much arguing going on there for me and I was told that it's much quieter here. Pardon me for interrupting. I'm going back to Hannity. I'll try again when Ray gets his cocoanut cake and is in a better mood. Old Tex

Perhaps it can most easily be demonstrated by saying that to get to the Celestial Kingdom there are 10 "steps" and that you have listed 5 of them above. The first 5 will certainly get you to a kingdom of Glory, but it won't be the Celestial Kingdom. It will take all 10 "steps" to get there, no matter if you are LDS or not. A lot of LDS are not going to make all 10 either. Some of these "steps" will involve the Temple. Old Tex