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  1. Reports of new church policies re: same sex couples and children

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    Posted

    You appear to be taking personally an introspective comment I made.  Which was triggered by LiterateParakeet comment about me leaving a subject...  Namely when I made the choice to stop responding I had a choice on how to convey that decision.  I could saying something but that could be taken as rude, Or I could say nothing, which could be taken as rude...  I wasn't sure which was was least rude (I am still not) I ultimately went with saying something.  It appears that LiterateParakeet seems to have understood it the way I intended... so maybe it was the right choice... or maybe it was a lucky choice.

     

    But the the only real connection it has to your actions and posts...  Is that I could see a such a sign off as going either way

     

    You're right.

    I took it personally because you were talking about me.

     

    I have no idea what you just said, by the way.

    Nor do I see any reason to try to continue on this forum.

     

    It's been interesting.

     

    God bless you all.

  6. Holidays and paganism?

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    Posted · Edited by AnnieCarvalho

    Since paganism and other religions preceded Christianity, I don't feel it is strange that many of our Christian or secular  holidays have pagan roots. I look at some of them more as 'cultural' holidays, personally. It's pretty common knowledge that often, pagan holidays were given a veneer of whatever religions happened to be the religion of the conquerors, in our case, Christians.

     

    I know there are many examples of General Authorities speak about holidays such as Christmas, Halloween and characters with pagan roots such as Santa Claus (Krampus!), with fondness.

     

    I haven't personally heard of any speaking out against those.

     

    What I've learned from my own study is this:

     

    Christmas = Yule. The birth of the SUN child after the long dark winter without seeing it

     

    Groundhog Day =  Bride/Imbolc. The first stirrings of Spring. The beginning of the lambing season. The day the Goddess brings the SUN to the earth's surface and the warming begins. 

     

    Valentine's Day - Lupercalia 

     

    Easter = Ostara/Earrach. The first Sunday after the first full moon after the Spring Equinox.  Ostara's symbols are the hare and eggs. Fertility. Rebith.

     

    May Day = Beltaine. In some pagan myths, this is the day the young god and goddess meet, and sparks fly. This is a fertility festival Hoops symbolizing eternal life, flowers, purification by jumping fires or driving livestock through those. The maypole  represents the erect penis (can I say penis here?).

     

    Thanksgiving = Lammas/Lughnasadh/Foghar combination. Harvest celebrations around the same time of year

     

    Halloween = Samhain OR Dia de los Muertes. Several cultures have a holiday around this time of year honoring ancestors. Time of death, animals were slaughtered in the cold weather, the fields were fallow, old and sick people died, it was a scary time. The days were short and dark. This is the time the goddess (pregnant with the new SUN)  left the face of the earth, leaving cold and darkness behind her.

     

    This is a short list. There are others. For the most part, these are seasonal celebrations, marking astronomical dates such as the Solstices and Equinoxes.  To me, they are ingrained in our ancestral memory and many people WANT to celebrate them.  As the Church conquered the land, and the people refused to stop celebrating, it was easier to lay a veneer of Christianity on top, than to try to wipe them out.

     

    That's my belief anyway, until someone convinces me otherwise.

     

    I think it's what is in your heart that matters.

  8. Reports of new church policies re: same sex couples and children

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    Posted

    You thread on bullying was how people felt attacked, poorly treated, etc by other members.  And how we all need to make a better effort to understand one other.

     

    Then I post here trying to keep things keep/bring it back (depending on a persons view point)

     

    Then you attack me (or whatever fancy term you want to use) because you made the "assumption" that I was defending Vort.  Thus I felt attacked and poorly treated all because it seemed you were more interested in making your point then reading and understanding what I wrote.  

     

    I see.

    Well, I"m sorry if my post made you feel attacked and poorly treated.

    I know how that feels and I sure don't want to do it to other people.

    I'll try to do better   :)

  10. The (non)utility of "venting"

    in General Discussion

    Posted · Edited by AnnieCarvalho

    Well, I sorta like venting.

    It allows me to let off steam so my head doesn't explode.

    Seriously.

     

    I think the key is in what you said, estradling, "Finding a nondestructive outlet."

     

    I think we need to take care where we vent and how we vent and who we vent TO.

     

    It's probably better to do martial arts, or yoga, or running than to bring down someone else by venting too much, which could be harmful to their spirit. Especially if it puts them in the middle of whatever issue you're venting about.

     

    Even a husband or wife can get weary of hearing how bad things are at the office...

  12. Reports of new church policies re: same sex couples and children

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    Nope. #268 was snarky, but only in a light-hearted, silly way, an attempt to blunt a sharp and angry attack. The last sentence of #270 was snarky, because of course it was I who wrote the sentences that carlimac was trying to throw back in my face -- but again, done for a laugh, not cuttingly. And of course, there was #241, more or less pure silliness. Other than those, I do not believe I have snarked at all on this thread. If I have, I don't remember it. Pretty much everything I have written has been on the level.

     

    Whence Annie's vituperative tone, I'm not sure, but it does seem to be a permanent fixture at this point.

     

    I wasn't being vituperative (I had to look that word up!)

     

    I was just being silly!  :P

  13. Reports of new church policies re: same sex couples and children

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    Honesty had you not just recently start a thread on bullying and the need for us to be more careful about how we treat each other I would not have cared.  But for you to complain about a set a behavior and then turn around and engage in that exact same set of behavior, triggers just about every button I have.  Given that whole point of my post that you criticized was an attempt keep the discussion civil did not help any.

     

    I'm not sure what my thread on bullying had to do with it.

    As I said, I was just expressing my disagreement.

    I'm still a little confused about that distinction, but I'm going to try to be more careful

    and I'll continue trying to take my cues from the rest of the core group here.

     

    I do see it triggered your buttons. :mellow:

  14. The (non)utility of "venting"

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    It's embraced because we have a society that have forgotten what it means to be an adult. We have the break-down of the family with such atrocities such as 2 daddies being trotted out as "healthy" for children (what bunk-as a side-note all those people who are saying oh the horror for the child that they can't be baptized b/c they had dad and dad.  I sure don't hear them complaining about all the massive damage that being raised in that lifestyle is really doing to the child.). 

     

    Parents don't know how to actually parent and never teach their children what the difference is between a child and an adult.  So society has children who get older but who have never matured even though they are in an adult body.  Therefore, because they weren't trained right but are now an adult they make an excuse for why their behavior is acceptable.

     

     

    Are you venting?

     

    I love venting.

    I need a 'vent" button that lets me type whatever I want but doesn't post it until it asks if I REALLY want to say that.

    Didn't someone already talk about that idea on this forum?

    Or did I read it somewhere else...

  15. Reports of new church policies re: same sex couples and children

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    I am sorry you feel like I'm bullying you, moderator.

     

    I'm so sorry if you feel I misunderstood you.

     

    And I'm so sorry if you feel I attacked you.

    I was just expressing my disagreement.

    From what a lot of people on this forum have TOLD me, expressing our disagreement is ok.

    I'm so surprised that when I express MY disagreement, it's considered degrading the quality of this forum.

     

    I guess I just don't understand the difference.

     

    Actually, I'm feeling VERY bullied by your response right now.

     

    If people in this forum are feeling I have degraded the experience of it for them, I would like them to PM me private, and I will be happy to apologize to each and every one.

  16. Reports of new church policies re: same sex couples and children

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    Dang. Annie has me pegged. One of the mean girls, smoothing down my hair in front of a mirror.

     

    How did she know?

     

    In any case, it's nice to have Annie here to inform me of these things. estradling, it looks like you and I should be taking "nice girl" lessons from Annie. Now quit smoothing down your hair and pay attention.

     

    This had me laughing.

     

    Oh gosh...

     

    I'm so sorry if I offended you ::trying to type while she's laughing:::

    No, really...

     

    You're both just almost too much.

    Two peas in a pod.

     

    Well, at least you like each other.

     

    Oh, your hair is up in the back ::laughing:::

  22. Reports of new church policies re: same sex couples and children

    in Current Events

    Posted · Edited by AnnieCarvalho

    I think in a few of these posts Vort is being snarky, and perfectly well understands where the other person is coming from, while still expressing Vort's disagreement.

     

    I agree,

    And such snarkiness sure does not translate to me as "warnings and council" from anyone I'd have respect for.

     

    I can't believe the mod said that.  :eek:

    I really can't.

    I'm floored.

    Whoah.

     

    To me, literalists walk a thin line, and I"m so thankful for Church Leaders who take the time to pray and consider special circumstances, such as a dying mother. 

     

    ::walks away shaking her head in disbelief::: :confused:  :confused:  :confused:

     

    Vort.. you are tripping me out.

    Mod... I am sure you'll be happy because I am speechless.

    Un-freaking-believable...

     

  23. Thanking the Police and Firefighters too

    in General Discussion

    Posted · Edited by AnnieCarvalho

    After reading the Prayer for Veterans today, I thought I'd share an experience I had this morning.

     

    I was out around 5 am doing some errands and stopped for breakfast.

    It was so early, the only people there were myself and 3 policemen.

    As I was eating, the 3 policeman finished up and got ready to leave.

     

    My grandfather and stepfather were policemen.

    My other stepfather (after the first one died) was Chief of Police.

    I have great respect for the police.

     

    I stopped them and thanked them for all they do for us.

    I was delighted by the smiles on their faces as I shook hands with all three.

    One commented it was nice to be appreciated.

     

    I realize there are a few bad cops out there, but I truly believe most of them are in it for the right reasons.

    And it's a difficult job.

     

    So I guess I'd say, while you're thanking Veterans, maybe thank any person in uniform, including Police, Sheriff, Firefighters EMTs, Nurses, and CNAs, etc. 

     

    I appreciate their service as well.