brotherofJared
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Dreams and visions are often for the person who received it and for no one else.
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It's sponsored by some members of our church but has no more affiliation with the church than that. It is the opinions of a few members.and anyone else.who wants to offer one.
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None of the versions u offered even remotely make this suggestion. Watchers are not even defined as fallen Angel's (they were, but not in the way that the world imagines that they were. They were humans, not much different than u or me. Are we not all fallen? They did not invade Eden. Watchers didnt appear until AFTER the fall. Nothing was stolen. Instead, attributes of Eden were given, gifts that every person has some attribute of, some of faith (Eve's nature), some knowledge, some of healing, some.of tongues, some of the interpretations of tongues, all gifts of the spirit, all attributes of Eden.
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I dont see any of that. But my question was, how is what Adam did bad? What evil.has come from it? What demise that is irreversible come from it? What do u suppose would happen if Adam didn't fall? Remember, U said that what Adam did was bad. Please remember that when he fell the damage was already done. That is not the question. There was no force, deception, yes but no force - same as it is today, no force but plenty of deception.
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I dont see any of that. But my question was, how is what Adam did bad? What evil.has come from it? What demise that is irreversible come from it? What do u suppose would happen if Adam didn't fall? Remember, U said that what Adam did was bad. Please remember that when he fell the damage was already done.
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Sorry. Duplicate.
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The only thing that makes sense about this rendition of the Marduk story is the separation of water from water which, if we're going to find parallels puts Marduk well before Adam and Eve. There are parallels but I dont see the ones u do. These are all, so far, rip-offs of a previous epic. I believe they were made by men who didn't understand the original epic and formed the stories around their own political agendas, much like the early Christian, post-apostolic, church did with the original epic they received. Therefore these stories only make sense as shadows of the reality IF we know the reality of what actually took place.
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I'm not sure what this story is supposed represent. There is no creation or fall that affects all mankind in it. Some woman u claim represents Eve has a child and that child is the point of the story. So, in relation to anything we're discussing, it is nonsense. Can u help me see the point of the story in relation the trinity? Or how Eve relates to that family, the trinity? Or how any of this makes what Adam did, bad.
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We don't. It's more of a mild curiosity.
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I would agree that NDE's cannot reveal much, if anything, about heaven. We can learn one thing that I believe is certain. The death of the body is not death or sleep of the person. There are other things such as the spirit world is all around us. Otherwise, it seems that many of the reports from people who have an NDE are not much different than things experienced while on an acid trip.
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I dont see where anyone betrayed God. I don't believe that is even possible. My understanding of that word is synonymous with backstab. Adam certainly didnt do that but one could make the argument that Eve betrayed Adam. She forced him into a situation where he had to disobey God regardless of the decision he made. Now, this is off topic for this thread, but how is what Adam did bad?
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God's help. He asked and got answers and recorded those answers. They have helped a lot when it comes to understanding revelations.
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start one if you want to discuss it, but when it comes to interpreting symbolism it's mostly speculation. Joseph Smith helped a lot but he didn't reveal everything so, for the most part, we still speculate.
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Flame or fire represents spirit or some aspect of the spirit in our lifes. Your references to scripture are way too vague. Might as well say that it's in the Bible somewhere.
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All of which have symbolic meaning. God doesn't really have 7 eyes across His land
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I believe the reason it happened was described in Mosiah 8, that men will not that she should rule over them.
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Read the Book of Mormon to learn about Lehi, but it does not specify that this disagreement about the wife of God being an issue. The Bible was written to remove all references to her. This redaction was commissioned by King Josiah but we only know about this from the Dead Sea Scrolls and some detailed scholarly work. The wife of God has been a well-kept secret for many thousands of years.
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Not by procreation anywhere. Being a resurrected being, she cannot procreate spirits. She may be intimately involved with creating spirits, but she doesn't procreate them anywhere, never has, IMO.
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That makes sense and is the reason I have a problem with the Holy Ghost being our Heavenly Mother. However, Joseph Smith said that the Father is a personage of spirit in one of his famous lectures (Lectures of Faith 5) which has been interpreted to me that He is a resurrected being. It seems likely, that Heavenly Mother is also a resurrected being and therefore also a personage of spirit which is why I leave that door open. I have no concluded one way or the other which is true.
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God, in LDS belief, is a being, not a state of being. God is defined as the ability to continue the seeds. Though we might have all knowledge and power, it would be relatively useless if we could not continue the seeds. No. your explanation does not make sense.
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This is a valid point and is aligned somewhat with LDS doctrine.
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It occurred long before Rome. King Josiah seems to be where the change was made. It was bad enough that Lehi and his family left Jerusalem.
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And eve is telling you that there would still be 3 places at the table. Quit asserting your understanding into her statements.
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True, but her point is that one of those three might very well be our Heavenly Mother. e v e has never stated that there were 4 in one God.
