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    Baptisms for the dead

    I see several mentions of bondage in that section. "He sees Adam, Eve, and many of the holy prophets in the spirit world who considered their spirit state before their resurrection as a bondage (introduction notes)". "For the dead had looked upon the long absence of their spirits from their bodies as a bondage". "I beheld that the faithful elders of this dispensation, when they depart from mortal life, continue their labors in the preaching of the gospel of repentance and redemption, through the sacrifice of the Only Begotten Son of God, among those who are in darkness and under the bondage of sin in the great world of the spirits of the dead". One is a bondage of sin, the other is a bondage of a body being separated from its spirit. Therefore my question whether the elders of this dispensation (Joseph Smith, etc) are in bondage too (body separated from spirit) or whether they are resurrected beings preaching in the spirit world. Allison
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    Baptisms for the dead

    Thank you. Let me rephrase the question so you may be able to clarify. V. 50 says "For the dead had looked upon the long absence of their spirits from their bodies as a bondage" V. 57 - "I beheld that the faithful elders of this dispensation, when they depart from mortal life, continue their labors in the preaching of the gospel of repentance and redemption, through the sacrifice of the Only Begotten Son of God, among those who are in darkness and under the bondage of sin in the great world of the spirits of the dead" Are the faithful elders also under the same condition (bondage) as the dead to whom they are preaching to (where their spirits are absent from their bodies) or are they resurrected personages or are they not in bondage even though their spirits are absent from their bodies? Allison
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    Baptisms for the dead

    The section confused me. Why would God's prophets need to re-hear (re-learn?) about resurrection when they were already firm in the hope of a glorious resurrection (like v.14 says)? Also, why did they have to re-hear the redemption of mankind from the fall and redemption from sins on conditions of repentance? V. 37 says "That they might carry the message of redemption unto all the dead, unto whom he could not go personally, because of their rebellion and transgression, that they through the ministration of his servants might also hear his words". Why could Jesus personally minister to the rebels and transgressors in his mortal body but could not do this in his spirit body? VV. 50-51 says "For the dead had looked upon the long absence of their spirits from their bodies as a bondage. These the Lord taught, and gave them power to come forth, after his resurrection from the dead, to enter into his Father’s kingdom, there to be crowned with immortality and eternal life" How is it a place of peace (v. 22) when they are in a state of bondage? When I read verses 15-18,42-43 I get the impression that the spirits in the spirit world were released from their bondage via the resurrection and they are commissioned to preach the gospel to those in the spirit world. Their bodies are no longer separated from the spirit, therefore they are not in bondage anymore. V. 57 said "I beheld that the faithful elders of this dispensation, when they depart from mortal life, continue their labors in the preaching of the gospel of repentance and redemption, through the sacrifice of the Only Begotten Son of God, among those who are in darkness and under the bondage of sin in the great world of the dspirits of the dead. It seems these faithful elders are un-resurrected beings during their sojourn in the spirit world, meaning that they are in bondage. Thank you for any insight, Allison
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    Baptisms for the dead

    Did he believe women were baptized/washed in the Old Testament temple font? When I was speaking with my two female missionary friends over the phone (due to social distancing now), they discussed the appearance of Jesus Christ to the Nephites after his resurrection, refering to 3 Nephi chapters 8-19. After the brief call, I read some of the remaining chapters and was wondering why Nephi baptized himself (3 Nephi 19:11) and why no one was baptized alive or for the dead in the temple in the land called Bountiful (3 Nephi 11:1). I asked them but they didn't know. Thank you for any insights, Allison
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    Kneeling to bless sacrament.

    Don't kneel. Sounds legalistic to me if people are telling you that you must perform some act in a certain posture considering you have an injury. Do you really believe the Lord is looking at your body's position instead of your heart? Be careful if you have Pharisees or Sadducees in your midst.
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    The Seven Seals

    I got the idea for this topic from a recent post of Anddenex about the 6th seal. According to Doctrine and Covenants 77, each of the seals represents 1000 years of Earth's temporal existence. Revelation 8:7 (the first trumpet after the 7th seal) says, "The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up". When do you believe is the timing of this event? Before, during, or after the 7000 years? The 6th seal has this event - "And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places". Do you recall from history these events in the 1000 year period before the millenium? Based on Joseph's revelation, I require clarity about the events in the other seals. In the first one thousand years, this event - "And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer". In the second thousand years, this event - "And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword". So there was peace and no one killed each other in the first 1000 years of earth's temporal existence? Thank you for your insights. Allison
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    Despite All We Can Do

    Hi Anddenex, That if/then condition in Moroni scares me a bit. Since we are all sinners because we are not denying ourselves of all ungodliness, then Christs grace is not sufficient for any of us. Thank you for your insights, Allison
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    Missionaries

    What is a chat missionary ?
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    Despite All We Can Do

    Hi Vort, It depends on how you define salvation. I've heard evangelicals define grace as unmerited favor. Regards, Allison
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    new to the forum

    Hi. I'm a new member. I just started attending a few ward meetings but is not baptized yet. Allison