Jigglysaint

I told President Eyering a joke once at a stake conference. "What department store do prophets shop at? Seers!"

I shouldn't have looked in on this thread. Now I'm hungry again, and I need to go shopping and we just had a big snowstorm. Also I really need some Red Lobster right about now. Olive Gardens don't exist in Canada anymore. Not that I've ever eaten there or anything.

I've been on another website. Still at MADB, but I swear everybody there ignores me. In fact I've been feeling rather ignored lately just about anywhere.

So um, hi. Not really much else to say right now.

I had a bad experence in a Mormon chatroom before. Only if people I know from MADB are there will I go on.

I've had the privlage to be in the company of several people with Down's Syndrome, and others with some serious intellectual disabilities. My girlfriend almost died as a baby, and she had suffered permenent brain damage as a result. I can sense the sweetness in her soul, even though it is often masked by the child-like temperment that sometimes leads to some difficulties. What she lacks in raw brain power, she makes up for it in the kind of intellegence that one recieves from God. Her compassion is unique compared to others in her position. In fact, many people in her shoes often struggle with carnal desires and even poor parenting, which coupled with a predisposition for others to treat them like children, can tempt them down paths that not even their innocense can withstand. My girlfriend was almost lead to hell by a very bad person who's lack of understanding of the procreation system(he just said she was having his baby and she freaked out) kind of makes me sick. But anyway, yes parents are truely blessed for being given stewardship over a disabled child. Remember that while they may not know what it's like to live a normal life, their own life will be filled with adventure that only they, and the ones they love, can go down. In fact normal lives are way overrated anyway. I mean, so what if they like Barney for a few more years while most children will start to conspire to destroy him? The hardest challenge is convincing others that the child is worth the effort, and is more than just a disability. I speak not as a parent, but as one who has wittnessed first hand nevertheless, the power of God within these blessed souls.

Blessings in disguise? I'd say the Patriarch has been watching a little too much Transformers. Well as long as any of those blessings don't turn into Megatron or Starscream(as cool as that would sound(wave).

You know I read the entire thread and I don't think anybody mentioned not being allowed to eat dairy products.

Must....post...somthing...inapproprate....and...unwholesome....

Okay, am I missing somthing here? I thought it was okay to have inside jokes. Yeah I am suspending my selse of humor for a moment because I am scared to death of the red text. The joke is, mods, is that both MorningStar and myself hate mayo, so we joke about it. If MorningStar is honestly getting sick from this, then I'm stopping. Of course in some Other circles, teasing one another is a sign of affection or friendship. But if it's only going one way then... Oh and I guess I should apologize for the temple remark. I think I forget sometimes how holy it is. I've never been so I guess I haven't been able to appreciate it fully. I must keep my blasphamous remarks to myself. I am NOT a very good Mormon. It's OK. Moderators like to joke too.

Flood the Temple? Are we talking about spamming ordiances here? Sorry, I just wanted to say "spamming" in a temple related thread.

It could have been worse. It could have been chocolate covered mayonnaise, or mayonnaise covered coffee beans. If I became the prophet, I would make mayo against the WOW and take everybody's temple recommend for indulging in that forbidden spread. I would also mount anti-aircraft missiles on the Salt Lake Temple. Jigglysaint, We moderators (in our benevolent omniscience) know all about you and Zakuska persecuting hapless Morningstar and others with numerous references to mayonnaise and other evil products of designing Frenchmen. Since this board is for amicable discussion (and sending someone racing to the bathroom to throw up is not considered amicable in Mormon circles) we will ask you to refrain from doing so here, as well. Tempt ye not our mighty wrath- lest ye be sentenced to make your tuna fish sandwiches with lowly Miracle Whip for all eternity. Seriously, though- play nice with the mayo references.

I busted my girlfriend yesterday for wearing a revealing outfit that exposed more than I cared to see. Heheheh, I said "bust"!

Nobody made our spirits. Well not quite. We started off as intelligence. Heavenly Father organized us into proper spiritual entities. I don't think physical sex was how it happened. However I bet the feeling that occured when each of us were made into being was just about as wonderful as it could be. However there hasn't really been any explanation about the creation of spirits in terms of how it actually happens. One day a few of us will know, and will have the chance to organize our own spirit children.

Baptists are cool. In fact if I had not become LDS, I think Baptist would have been my second choice. I realize that in general they may tend to have a chip on their shoulder about LDS related stuff, but I believe that no matter what anybody believes about anything, the true answer is love. I joined a Christian fellowship at a school soon after my baptism, and I was open about my beliefs to the Southern Baptist who rant the group. At times we didn't agree, but neither one of us gave in to contention. He had a very special spirit about him, and he made my and my friend welcome. I recognize the need to protect the flock against any dangers. Lies are certainly not the way to go. I have far more respect for a man who studied the Book of Mormon and concluded it was false, than for a person who blindly trusts in other's opinions without even a desire to verify.

You have All your base are belong to us close friends. But You are on the way to destruction is your closest friend. you have no chance to survive make your time knows you the best, so have a long chat with this person and you might find out something important about yourself. hahahaha is your lucky star. This person will bring luck (usually unexpedetedly). You are deeply in love with Someone set us up the bomb and your feelings are like the song "Main screen turn on". You like Move Zig for great justice , but it is not "meant to be"... kind of like the song " Ed Decker is a nutbar". The song, " " says a lot about how you think, while the song, " " tells how you feel about life in general. is your lucky number, and it's also a good number of people to tell about this test.

Oh, he did die. Last time I heard his health deteriorated. I was never an opera fan, but I am sure he will be missed. It must have been a wonderful thing to have such a great talent and share it with the world for so long. BTW, when Princess Diana died, and the Paparatzi was blamed, everybody in my family first thought it was Pavaroti. All of us were trying to figure out why an opera singer would kill the Princess of Wales.

Cool. Does it work with LDS only stuff, or can I submit other stuff? It would be funny to see the Angry Video Game Nerd sustained.

Sorry guys, I shouldn't have said anything. In fact I was banned from an LDS chat room a few years back by discussing this very subject. Back then, the girl wasn't my girlfriend and the age different was akward. I met her when she was 16, she's turning 20 on Saturday. Some LDS on that chat room went so far as to call me a pedophile.

Okay, I am going out on a limb here. You either came from Australia, or you served a mission there. Am I on track?

Another thought I want to share: It is quite true that this Church has very high, if not unreasonable standards at times for some people. While this is true, this is also one of the grestest things about this Church. It's easy to be discouraged with your performance. Whether you've been ex-communicated and seeking to be rebaptized, or a new convert who can't qualify for a Temple Reccomend, it is quite a struggle to feel like the Church will accept you. However, those high standards arn't given just for our suffering. They are there so that we need to take advantage of the Atoning Grance of Jesus Christ. Yes I said "grace". I know with myself I get quite annoyed with myself and my seemingly inability to cease certain serious sins. It's easy to beat myself up over my mistakes that go directly against learned truth. For example I know that shopping on Sunday is wrong, but I still do it, although with lesser frequency that before. Whenever I feel compelled to sin, the guilt comes and I feel bad about it. I feel that God would never want me to be in His presence. I feel that my constant stupidity is somehow not worthy of the Saviour's Atonement. I feel that I don't deserve the Holy Ghost(and sometimes it has come even after a serious sin has been comitted). I'm not alone. I think that many people go though the same feelings of anguish that I do. I think that many people lose their testimonies after they feel that because the standards are too high, they can't be reached and therefore can't be true. I know better. Those standards are there for everybody. From the very weak, to the very strong, all are given for all's benefit. Sure, right now getting my Home Teaching and raising a family in the Gospel don't apply to me, and they may never. I think we often forget that the commnadment are not nessicarily a checklist for salvation, but they are there to develop the attitude that leads to it. It's been said before that if a Saint lives in an area or in a manner where a Temple cannot be reached, then that person should still live worthy to recieve a reccommend, and God will make sure that their faith will not be in vain. In a way it's like that with everything. If you want to be saved, act like you want to be saved(as opposed to acting like you are saved). I only wish I could take the advice that my hands are typing out.

I do know that "petting" refers to the touching of another's private areas for the sole reason of arrousal. I have to be very careful with my current girlfriend not to go too far. I am quite attracted to her and the powerful sexual urges are quite apparent. I think we are both excited to have physical intamacy. I've been very shy about kissing her, but I have a couple of times. I know we don't use the tounge, but I am not good at gauging what is or isn't "overdoing it". Everybody knows my feelings for her(because I won't shut up about it). I will admit that for the first time in my life, this is the first time I've actually lusted after a woman in the most purest sexual desires. Normally, my fantasies(sorry to be so bold and direct) revolve arround fully clothed women eating Kraft Singles and myself developing a non-sexual bond with them, like a friendship. Yeah you heard me right, I sin as a result of a fantasy that doesn't actually involve nudity. Sometimes I wonder what's wrong with me that I don't actually require thought of sexual actions to be turned on. Again, sorry for being bold and confessing my sins. I suppose I feel that the more I tell others, the more I will start to feel embarassed for myself.

Well I was somewhat lucky when I converted. I gave up coffee, tea and alcohol. Coffee wasn't really an issue for me, I do miss a nice Earl Grey with milk once in a while, but Caf-Lib seems to do the job well(I hope it's okay). Sometimes I miss being able to have a beer. At first I decided that I want to avoid near beer because of the tehnical .05 percent alcohol content. Now I've decided that if I want to, I can, but not make a point of it. I tend to freak out too much about stuff. Also I have this habbit of finding out somthing has the flavour of coffee or alcohol, then proceed to eat the whole thing. I hate wasting food I just bought or was given. Of course if somebody gave me a beer I'd shove it up their...anyway.... I am the sole convert in my family. I often have trouble keeping the commandments. Some sins have even stayed from before I was baptized. I find it hard to do the things I need to while at home because of I how I feel about myself, and how my family percieves me. It's much easier to be rightous in front of strangers. One of my biggest problems is Sunday shopping. On the way home from church I tend to stop off at the grocery store to get stuff I either need or want. Since I take a bus everywhere, doing that does tend to save me bus fare. It's also like I don't have to go far out of the way to do it either. There's a store accross the street from the church, and everywhere along the bus route on the way home. Oh, I also used to gamble. Actually it was the scratch and win lottery tickets(you scratch them off to see if you win a prize). I was pretty bad with those. I still feel tempted from time to time, so I have to be alert. My mother plays those alot, as well as playing Bingo. I got hooked to gambling since before I was legal. Same with beer. Heck I was drinking beer at the age of 3, and my parents didn't even know for the longest time!

That's a touching story. However in my case my girlfriend is not able to be baptized because of her disabiity. Then again, she's most likely going straight to the Celestial Kingdom afterwards, except she doesn't really believe in god in the first place. Other than that it would be a challenge. I do want kids, and I do not know if we could do that. She can't even take the bus by herself yet. Can she take care of a child? Can I take care of a child? Can I handle the difficulties that stem from her disability? Where her parents even let go of her? I've endured persecution just to be with her. In fact I am more likely to be attacked because my girlfriend is so young than for my own beliefs.

You guys(er, girls) can say that easy. Most of you are married women, or at least were married before hitting 30(an assumption, yes). I'm a guy who's almost 30 and may never get the chance to marry due to circumstances. The only girl in my life may be unsuitable for marrage for reason she can't control. I am starting to believe that I can't have my manhood and hold a temple reccommend.